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Marney1
I want to buy a 50" TV for my PS3 and although I'm impressed with the LCD TV I've got I'd like to know what you guys think is best (and why).
DuffMan
Go for LCD. Plasmas are too prone to burning in, which means if you're on a CoD MP marathon, the HUD will get engraved into the screen before too long. Plasma screens really aren't worth considering for anything these days, LCDs have come so far since you had to make the choice between the quality of the picture (particularly in terms of contrast and colour) and lifespan.
demon
LCD screens are always recommended as PC screens and for game consoles. The arguments I have heard base this claim on picture quality. Plasma TV's are (or has been) the better choice for movies.

Maybe part of the reason for this is that most PC monitors are smaller than 30 inches and you don't get many plasma screens that small. But since you are going for 50 inches you do at least have many plasma screens as a possible choice to consider. Go to some warehouses and they all will recommend a LCD screen. I believe no professional will recommend a plasma TV for gaming. I've seen consumer tests and I've been to warehouses and gathered info.

I don't remember all the reasons why LCD is better, but one reason had to do with contrast and ability to display blackness. I think blackness is more important for movies (or was it perhaps vice versa). But what I do remember is that the properties important for gaming makes LCD the best choice.



QUOTE (DuffMan @ Nov 22 2010, 12:33 AM) *
Go for LCD. Plasmas are too prone to burning in, which means if you're on a CoD MP marathon, the HUD will get engraved into the screen before too long. Plasma screens really aren't worth considering for anything these days, LCDs have come so far since you had to make the choice between the quality of the picture (particularly in terms of contrast and colour) and lifespan.

Can an image burn into a plasma screen? I thought that was a problem only on CRT.

Top quality picture used to mean shorter lifespan? I would have guessed high quality screens meant both good quality picture and long lifespan. unsure.gif
Heartless
QUOTE (demon @ Nov 22 2010, 03:35 PM) *
LCD screens are always recommended as PC screens and for game consoles. The arguments I have heard base this claim on picture quality. Plasma TV's are (or has been) the better choice for movies.

Maybe part of the reason for this is that most PC monitors are smaller than 30 inches and you don't get many plasma screens that small. But since you are going for 50 inches you do at least have many plasma screens as a possible choice to consider. Go to some warehouses and they all will recommend a LCD screen. I believe no professional will recommend a plasma TV for gaming. I've seen consumer tests and I've been to warehouses and gathered info.

I don't remember all the reasons why LCD is better, but one reason had to do with contrast and ability to display blackness. I think blackness is more important for movies (or was it perhaps vice versa). But what I do remember is that the properties important for gaming makes LCD the best choice.



QUOTE (DuffMan @ Nov 22 2010, 12:33 AM) *
Go for LCD. Plasmas are too prone to burning in, which means if you're on a CoD MP marathon, the HUD will get engraved into the screen before too long. Plasma screens really aren't worth considering for anything these days, LCDs have come so far since you had to make the choice between the quality of the picture (particularly in terms of contrast and colour) and lifespan.

Can an image burn into a plasma screen? I thought that was a problem only on CRT.

Top quality picture used to mean shorter lifespan? I would have guessed high quality screens meant both good quality picture and long lifespan. unsure.gif



Edgecrusher
Most Plasmas have a screen burn protection feature built into them now. I have a Samsung and have yet to have any trouble with this, but then it only seems to be a problem if the image on the screen is static and If I am not using my Playstation, it is usually turned off. Plasmas usually have a much higher contrast ratio than LCD and, as someone already stated, deeper black tones which make shadows, etc. look more realistic and less washed out. I think given that there seems to be a greater emphasis on shadow details in games nowadays, this is equally important as when I am watching a film. Having said that, a lot of people prefer LCD picture and it is largely a matter of personal preference. LCDs are generally significantly less expensive though.
demon
QUOTE (JonnyCanonFodder @ Nov 23 2010, 12:16 PM) *
Most Plasmas have a screen burn protection feature built into them now. I have a Samsung and have yet to have any trouble with this, but then it only seems to be a problem if the image on the screen is static and If I am not using my Playstation, it is usually turned off. Plasmas usually have a much higher contrast ratio than LCD and, as someone already stated, deeper black tones which make shadows, etc. look more realistic and less washed out. I think given that there seems to be a greater emphasis on shadow details in games nowadays, this is equally important as when I am watching a film. Having said that, a lot of people prefer LCD picture and it is largely a matter of personal preference. LCDs are generally significantly less expensive though.

Informative post. But one thing I miss is, what are LCD screens better at displaying?

Plasma is a more power consuming technology than LCD, and that might be of importance if you live somewhere where electricity is very expensive.
Edgecrusher
True, and television manufacturers are beginning to use that as a selling point, but I've had both and as far as I can tell the difference is negligible. As far as what LCDs are better at displaying; as I said a lot boils down to personal preference, but IMHO, not a lot. Plasmas generally have a higher contrast ratio, deep black rendering, more colour depth, and better response time which leads to more accurate motion tracking. LCDs tend to perform better in brighter light conditions due to the screens having less of a sheen, they are lighter, generate less heat, and as you said, they tend to consume less power. One advantage of LCDs over Plasma screens though is that LCDs often have VGA ports so can be used as a PC monitor without the need for your PC to have an HDMI port or an adapter, which can be costly.
demon
QUOTE (JonnyCanonFodder @ Nov 25 2010, 12:50 AM) *
Plasmas generally have a higher contrast ratio, deep black rendering, more colour depth, and better response time which leads to more accurate motion tracking. LCDs tend to perform better in brighter light conditions due to the screens having less of a sheen

Some of this I knew, but I didn't know plasma has a faster response time. I used to think LCD is faster because LCD TV's are recommended if you play alot of console games, plasma if you watch alot of movies.

And the brightness, I had a feeling LCD performed better there but I wasn't sure.
Now there's LCD with LED, I guess they're even brighter.
Edgecrusher
I would imagine that any recommendation you have heard that LCDs are better for gaming is based on the burn in tendency of plasmas, which is not really a huge problem except with older sets. LCDs are in fact brighter, this is due to excess light leakage between the crystals, but can also cause the washout effect I mentioned. LCDs tend to suffer from greater image lag due to the method in which they render the screen image; the crystals align themselves by twisting and untwistin to allow more or less light through from the backlight. With faster moving images, this method loses efficency due to the crystals having to twist in greater succession and can create a hold effect as the crystals cannot match the speed of the action. Having said that, this is becoming less of a problem as sets are becoming available with better picture engines. One other thing to note about LCDs is that as the screen size increases, the margin between prices also decreases.
demon
Okay. It sounds like you know your stuff.

I want to buy a new screen but my needs may differ a bit from Marney's. Maybe I should make a separate topic?
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