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PabloHoneyOle
Who's got it? I just received it in the mail today and I'm excited about getting to play tonight.

Nazi's beware.
Marney1
QUOTE (Stoic Person Eater @ Dec 14 2009, 06:07 PM) *
Who's got it? I just received it in the mail today and I'm excited about getting to play tonight.

Nazi's beware.

I just saw a few clips of this the other day; French resistance or something isn't it?
Massacre
I think you might be alone on this one.

I'm still waiting on a game where I play as a Nazi. I wanna flip the switches outside the gas chambers. It would kick the shit out of the Saw game.

But anyway, I haven't really heard much about this game at all. Let me know how it is.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE (marney1 @ Dec 14 2009, 01:09 PM) *
QUOTE (Stoic Person Eater @ Dec 14 2009, 06:07 PM) *
Who's got it? I just received it in the mail today and I'm excited about getting to play tonight.

Nazi's beware.

I just saw a few clips of this the other day; French resistance or something isn't it?

Basically, you're an Irish race car driver who is pulled into the resistance in a tale of revenge against the Nazis for killing his bum mate or something. You run around Paris fucking up the Nazis and blowing up their cribs and zeppelins. There's also pixelated nipples.

Here's the Kotaku review; if reviews mean anything to you. It will atleast give you a good idea of the game.
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What seemed great on paper — a World War II game like nothing else, with sophisticated artistry to boot — had to be turned into a video game. But then some things, not necessarily too many things, went wrong.

The Saboteur is the final game developed by Pandemic Studios out of the EA-owned label's former offices, the last hurrah of the studio that brought gamers new takes on combat through Full Spectrum Warrior, Star Wars Battlefront, and Mercenaries. And their last standalone effort may have been their boldest, a World War II open-world game set in and around Paris, starring an Irish race car driver on a vendetta against the Nazi occupiers of France's beautiful city.

The game has received headlines for its inclusion of optional nudity and near-nudity, and it's likely turned the head of anyone who has seen screenshots or video featuring its terrific mixture of black-and-white graphics and color. But what makes it worth playing is its attempt to offer a mix of Grand Theft Auto, Assassin's Creed and thankfully some of its own style, situated in a time and place of history no other major game has explored, letting its players be the hero in a battle they can't truly win, sneakily killing Nazis and brashly blowing up zeppelins along the way.

Loved
Winning Theme: Setting a game amid the resistance movement against Nazi-occupied France is fresh and original. This isn't a game of storming beaches but hiding in brothels, not (often) of driving a tank but of slipping into an enemy uniform and poisoning the rival army from within. You don't play many games in which you can walk around without the Nazis shooting at you until you raid their bases. Better, though, is sneaking behind them to blow up their parked cars, sucker-punching them while they're harassing people on the street, or walking calmly away after you've set a ticking stack of dynamite at the foot of their sniper tower. Basically, this is the ultimate game of griefing Nazis, which is a lot of fun and feels morally sound. That this is all draped in one of the most unusual color schemes in gaming history is a bonus. Nazi-dominated areas of Paris and the surrounding towns and countryside are rendered in black-and-white, save for the colors of flames and red Nazi arm bands and banners. The game colorizes sections after the completion of certain missions, generating a sense that some vitality has been returned to the locale thanks to your actions.

A New Tale: I'm a sucker for a novel plot. This one doesn't have you fighting Nazis because you were drafted. It has you fighting them because your character, Irish race car driver Sean Devlin lost a race against crooked Nazis, tried to prank them and wound up stumbling across a scheme that got someone close to him killed. He's in it for revenge in the middle of a war, the French resistance a convenient cause to assist rather than one he was dedicated to serve. It's a nice touch that you play in the pair of races that are both key to the story, adding the historical nuance of the Nazis' attempt to demonstrate Aryan superiority in sporting events.

Beyond Paris: The game hits its stride best, for better or worse, outside Paris, where the player is most empowered to feel like a saboteur. Climbing rooftops and battling some control and design issues in the big city can hurt the fun, but on the vast outskirts, a player can speed down dirt roads, quick-stop next to a Nazi gas station, plant a bomb and peel out. The biggest delight comes from the explosions you hear and don't see, the sounds of the chain of blasts you managed to trigger from beneath those Nazi noses. All your sneaking and planning is rewarded as they scramble or die while you drive off to your next place to cause more mayhem.

A Man Of Many Talents: An open-world game is often improved by an wide array of character abilities. Our hero, Sean Devlin, can do the stealthy chaos-causing things described above, or he can toss grenades and fire machine guns into a nest of Germans, turning the tactical subtlety that feels most distinct to Saboteur into moments of gun-facing, man vs. army action. In other words, it begins to feel like Mercenaries, a playground, as they said in the commercials, of destruction. Other options, some not commonly seen elsewhere, include arming a bomb in a car you've stolen and then bailing from the vehicle just before it speeds into a Nazi base. Or you can call in resistance fighters to help you out, sometimes with drawbacks (see below).

Dynamic Intent: Almost a "Hated" instead of a "Loved," but something I ultimately cannot knock Pandemic for is its pockmarking of its map with several hundred "freeplay targets." These dots represent Nazi guard towers, trucks, supply drops and other things worth detonating. The winning concept behind them is to empower the gamer of this open-world game to gradually influence the dynamics of his terrain. Destroying a sniper tower while wandering through Paris removes that tower from the map, making a story-advancing mission the player might take right near the sniper tower easier. The game falters in inundating the player with so many freeplay target options while making it very unclear what the incentive is for taking out most of them. Sure, knocking over a guard tower makes a mission easier and earns Devlin some cash for buying better weapons. But does the elimination of propaganda speakers make the pedestrians more willing to resist? It'd be nice if the game made that more clear.

For The People: The most original missions in The Saboteur branch from the game's main story. A lady asks Devlin to stop a Nazi book-burning. A priest requests the murder of the Nazi half of a wedding party. Most of the game's main missions feel like they could have been generated for other action games, but those that engage with the manifold struggles of one society to survive the pervasive menace of another are the most refreshing. They show the scope of The Saboteur's potential.

Hated

Very Bad Timing: In Paris, Sean Devlin needs to climb, But he is no Altair or Ezio, and this game suffers in its proximity to the release of Assasin's Creed II. Sean's climbing is slow and stymied in odd ways by seemingly surmountable out-croppings. Worse, he has a hard time lowering himself down a roof in controlled ways. That the designers named Devlin's race car the Altair or that they included summit points that spin the camera around when he reaches them does the game no favors in avoiding the comparisons. These are Assassin's Creed 1 mechanics in a world that is enjoying Assassin's Creed II. And that makes much of the emergent action in Paris — the escaping from Nazi patrols by taking to the rooftops — or climbing walls to reach ziplines to reach bomb-able targets, less fun that it would have been a year ago.

Very Bad Timing Part 2: Sean Devlin is less the Irish rogue and more the jerk. He's gruff to the point of unpleasantness, the lead in a cast of characters who seem to hate each other except when they are sleeping with each other. Uncharted 2 just showed us how very likable an overmatched, cocky hero can be and how a game with romantically-linked leads can be sexy without being sophomoric. In this game, a stressed Devlin is asked how he feels after a rough battle. He says: "I could eat a nun's arse through a convent gate."

Glitches: The game is glitchy in an absurdly amusing way at least once per hour you're playing it. I approached a Nazi to snap his neck. He animated properly, dropping to his death. But so did the Nazi standing next to him, in synchronicity. I went into a base camp to talk to a resistance leader and wondered why he had a mannequin on his office. That was no mannequin. That was another character, accidentally spawned atop his phonograph. I called in a car-load of resistance fighters while I was taking fire in an intersection. They drove over, some got out of their car, and then their driver ran over one of them. I had to escape a mission on the back of a truck and kept failing because a character not involved in my mission — but who happened to be standing on the road we passed — kept dying, for reasons I can't explain. I'd just get a notification that he was dead. Etc. Once an hour with things like these. Not gamebreakers, but certainly mood-killers.

Truncated: Why Devlin brushes off an aerial crash he survives — right after the scene that was about him not having a parachute — I can't explain. Nor can I explain why the game's main adventure ends before we've again fought the Nazi henchwoman who is set up in earlier missions or why it ends with an enchanting but incredibly easy last mission. This game's story feels like it was cut off, though The Saboteur does offer enough terrain and optional missions to keep players busy past that early end.

The Saboteur has enough originality and enough of a capacity for the player to have fun at almost all times that it's a hard game not to recommend. It's a game for the curious, for gamers seeking something different. But as with so many original games, it is a game that has rough edges.

This may be the most un-polished major-label game I've reviewed this year, which is too bad. Because when The Saboteur is being The Saboteur and not being Assassin's Creed or choking on a bug, it's got the spirit and spark of a game that should be played. That is, if you ever wanted to blow up a Zeppelin with a rocket launcher, kiss someone to hide from the people chasing you or knock over a Nazi gas station without them ever knowing you were there.

Source:http://kotaku.com/5422448/the-saboteur-review-rough-draft

Reviews aren't too friendly - all around. But most reviewers are absolute cunts anyway.

I'm always up for killing Nazis and pixelated nipples.
Marney1
I love games of this kind where you need to be sneaky and plan things but I'm in two minds about the black & white effect they use. Because it's set in WWII there's no real 'technology' so it helps make it more pesonal as you're the one actually getting things done by using a bit of guile.
I love the feeling of being amongst the old buildings and cobbled roads and gas lamps in the streets. I'll keep an eye on players reviews for now though.

bOnEs
don't rely on reviews for this game... most claimed that the godfather II sucked but, i found it to be quite fun... i get the same vibe from the reviews for this game... it's been called a "jack of all trades - master of none" game... it has lots of ideas and concepts but, fails to deliver on all of them... the elements are fine but, nothing special... i'm sure it's going to be a good 'ol time IMO biggrin.gif... it looks like a lot of fun to control...

for me, i'm waiting until early next year to get this game... unlike borderlands, this IS a game i want to play... it just looks like a whole lot of fun... i'm waiting for it's first price drop, or when it gets down to at least $40... and considering the reviews and sales, i don't think it will take too long...

i just love sandbox games way too much... it's not as realistic as GTAIV and assassin's creed II but, it looks a lot better than pandemic's other sandbox game, mercenaries 2... mercs 2 sucked balls... basically, saboteur is a mash-up of numerous other games... jack of all trades but, master of none... and that's not a problem for me...
PabloHoneyOle
You nailed it, bones. I didn't mind Mercs 2 so much, but I've only played it a few days, it's in my backlog as of right now.

From what I've seen, this looks right up my alley. I got my copy off of eBay for $45 shipped. It took a couple days later than I wanted, but I was gone this weekend and wouldn't have been able to play it anyway. I'll play tonight and might call in sick tomorrow morning.

bOnEs
i unfortunately bought mercs 2 launch week... i played one full night of it, and after about 2 weeks, i noticed that i hadn't played it since that night so, i traded it in towards little big planet and finally got my money's-worth (actually got $40 for trade-in because of another promotion that involved trading that game in)... LBP was 50x better than mercs 2...

i mean, the idea was good but, the execution was horrible... the driving sucked, missions were extremely repetitive (drive here, kill a bunch of people, blow up the base), the destruction didn't amaze me at all, and the very spotty and glitchy AI was enough to make me throw my remote... i literally watched 4 guys come over a hill to get me, only to fall and roll all the way off the cliff into the water... and another time, there was an enemy hidden inside a rock that could shoot me but, i couldn't shoot him... tanks were blowing up my tank through walls, and enemies knew where i was, even if i was hidden at the other end of the base...

i expect that some of these problems will be present in the saboteur but, i don't think they are game-breakers like they were in mercs 2... it was just a bad game on all fronts for me... i'm sure the saboteur fixed some of these issues because, i'm pretty sure it's running on the same engine as mercs 2...

i don't expect the saboteur to be a AAA title but, my expectations are lower for saboteur than they were for mercs 2... so, i won't be disappointed with the saboteur... in fact, i might find it to be funner than i thought it would be...
Bain
Im interested to try it out. Ill see how I like it, not for a while though.
DiO
The animations looks stiff.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE (Destruction-Overdriv @ Dec 21 2009, 09:24 PM) *
The animations looks stiff.

Your mother.

I've been playing this for a little while, haven't had the time to sit down and give it the marathon gaming session I gave Assassin's Creed 2 last month. Perhaps after Christmas.

Anyway, I'm at 9.4% in the game - I've completed the first mission, the "flashback" sequence and have started a few missions for the Resistance to fuck up the Nazi regime. There's a pretty decent revenge story (a la Assassin's Creed 2) and some semi interesting characters. The main character looks hauntingly like my Irish roommate in college, spot on. Basically, you're a drunk from Ireland, Sean Devlin, who used to be a professional racer until the Nazis ruined his race career and killed his best "buddy". Since the race and the chain of events that lead to his friend's murder; Sean has basically just been drinking and fucking while the Nazis take over Paris and the rest of Europe.

The city of Paris is huge and their are Nazi's everywhere. They've basically set up shop on every street corner, atop of every building and even all up in the titty club you live in. The city is full of detail, down to the cobblestone streets, the historic landmarks, and the surrounding country side. The area is huge; almost overwhelming. The cars that populate the city are historically accurate as well. There are beaters, race cars and all sorts of Nazi vehicles available for hijacking. Nazi Zeppelins float overhead, just waiting for me to find a rocket launcher.

The storyline follows the main character's path to revenge by basically killing off every Nazi in Paris and by doing so, inspiring the French to stop being such pussies (this is the most unbelievable aspect of this game). There are over 1000 different Nazi sniper towers, offices, vehicles, propaganda or Generals that need to be SABOTAGED in order to properly motivate them. Performing acts of SABOTAGE also generate contraband that you can spend on guns, maps, upgrades, etc. There is a nice leveling system in place that rewards you for doing x number of kills with a certain weapons or your fists. There is also the car collection aspect which also unlocks perks from your mechanic; who also has the ability to utilize NITROUS OXIDE to make a 1939 Bugatti Type 53 do over 100 mph. Very handy guy.

The gameplay is very fun. The controls are very reminiscent of Grand Theft Auto and the driving is more of the Saint's Row 2 persuasion. Sean has the ability to climb, I've already climbed the Eiffel Tower, twice, simply by scaling the metal struts. The climbing is much slower than Assassins Creed (and obviously Assassins Creed 2) however it does allow for a more "controlled" climb. You can basically select the ledge you wish to jump to by rotating your view and then press an action button which launches you in that direction. There's no need to grasp when you're falling either, Sean takes care of that on his own. Sean can run for forever, which is handy when Nazis are firing at you non-stop. He can also absorb over 100 bullets before really getting ready to die. It sounds ridiculous, but it's pretty necessary considering the firepower the Nazi's are bringing.

I've only noticed one glitch or bug. It was actually kind of funny. A messenger came running over to me - backwards. Very minor, but very unexpected.

Overall it's a pretty good game. I haven't given it the attention it deserves, honestly. It seems easy to get lost in, but real life time constraints are killing me.
bOnEs
pretty much what i expected to read from you, stoic... a nice short "impressions" review... you seemed to touch on a lot of things, things i wondered about... this just further cements my reasoning for purchasing this sometime after christmas... i already see online specials and deals offering this game for $40... so, the price drop is probably right around the corner...
Marney1
QUOTE (Stoic Person Eater @ Dec 22 2009, 04:10 PM) *
QUOTE (Destruction-Overdriv @ Dec 21 2009, 09:24 PM) *
The animations looks stiff.

Your mother.

I've been playing this for a little while, haven't had the time to sit down and give it the marathon gaming session I gave Assassin's Creed 2 last month. Perhaps after Christmas.

Anyway, I'm at 9.4% in the game - I've completed the first mission, the "flashback" sequence and have started a few missions for the Resistance to fuck up the Nazi regime. There's a pretty decent revenge story (a la Assassin's Creed 2) and some semi interesting characters. The main character looks hauntingly like my Irish roommate in college, spot on. Basically, you're a drunk from Ireland, Sean Devlin, who used to be a professional racer until the Nazis ruined his race career and killed his best "buddy". Since the race and the chain of events that lead to his friend's murder; Sean has basically just been drinking and fucking while the Nazis take over Paris and the rest of Europe.

The city of Paris is huge and their are Nazi's everywhere. They've basically set up shop on every street corner, atop of every building and even all up in the titty club you live in. The city is full of detail, down to the cobblestone streets, the historic landmarks, and the surrounding country side. The area is huge; almost overwhelming. The cars that populate the city are historically accurate as well. There are beaters, race cars and all sorts of Nazi vehicles available for hijacking. Nazi Zeppelins float overhead, just waiting for me to find a rocket launcher.

The storyline follows the main character's path to revenge by basically killing off every Nazi in Paris and by doing so, inspiring the French to stop being such pussies (this is the most unbelievable aspect of this game). There are over 1000 different Nazi sniper towers, offices, vehicles, propaganda or Generals that need to be SABOTAGED in order to properly motivate them. Performing acts of SABOTAGE also generate contraband that you can spend on guns, maps, upgrades, etc. There is a nice leveling system in place that rewards you for doing x number of kills with a certain weapons or your fists. There is also the car collection aspect which also unlocks perks from your mechanic; who also has the ability to utilize NITROUS OXIDE to make a 1939 Bugatti Type 53 do over 100 mph. Very handy guy.

The gameplay is very fun. The controls are very reminiscent of Grand Theft Auto and the driving is more of the Saint's Row 2 persuasion. Sean has the ability to climb, I've already climbed the Eiffel Tower, twice, simply by scaling the metal struts. The climbing is much slower than Assassins Creed (and obviously Assassins Creed 2) however it does allow for a more "controlled" climb. You can basically select the ledge you wish to jump to by rotating your view and then press an action button which launches you in that direction. There's no need to grasp when you're falling either, Sean takes care of that on his own. Sean can run for forever, which is handy when Nazis are firing at you non-stop. He can also absorb over 100 bullets before really getting ready to die. It sounds ridiculous, but it's pretty necessary considering the firepower the Nazi's are bringing.

I've only noticed one glitch or bug. It was actually kind of funny. A messenger came running over to me - backwards. Very minor, but very unexpected.

Overall it's a pretty good game. I haven't given it the attention it deserves, honestly. It seems easy to get lost in, but real life time constraints are killing me.

I've been in two minds whether to buy this game but after reading that review I think it's likely to be my next game. If this is what you have to say about it with less than 10% completed then I'm definitely getting it.
Can you free roam in between missions without restrictions or do more areas of the city open up as you progress?
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE (marney1 @ Dec 22 2009, 11:35 AM) *
I've been in two minds whether to buy this game but after reading that review I think it's likely to be my next game. If this is what you have to say about it with less than 10% completed then I'm definitely getting it.
Can you free roam in between missions without restrictions or do more areas of the city open up as you progress?

After you complete the first mission and flashback - which are essentially tutorials, you wake up in Paris and the whole city is available. There are certain bridges that are blocked off by Nazi blockades, but there is nothing stopping you from swimming across the river or running a car through the blockade (and getting the Nazi's attention.

I really recommend the game, especially if you're a fan of the era. It's the L.A. Noire that never was. The black and white theme vs. the contrast of color is really something to behold.

I actually got a new HD TV the day after getting this game. Switching from a standard to an HD totally revolutionized the game. The graphics are great, even the digital nudity - the burlesque scenes are actually very well done - something straight out of Moulin Rouge. Classy, yet tittiful.

Marney1
I think I get the black & white/colour idea now; Black & white areas need to be given some hope against the occupation while coloured areas have gotten the urge and encouragement (and the will) to fight back against the nazis?
bOnEs
just got an HDTV, eh? pop in fallout 3 and check it out... it's like night and day... i got my new TV in the middle of playing it and saw a dramatic difference... I COULD ACTUALLY READ STUFF IN THE PIPBOY!! biggrin.gif... they don't make games SDTV friendly anymore... you can barely read anything on the screen, it's too small and blurry...

yea, the art direction is what hooked me to this game when i first heard about the title... black & white with splashes of red to represent repression and violence... it's cool that you can go and do whatever you want too... dare i say more freedom than GTAIV??
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE (marney1 @ Dec 22 2009, 12:23 PM) *
I think I get the black & white/colour idea now; Black & white areas need to be given some hope against the occupation while coloured areas have gotten the urge and encouragement (and the will) to fight back against the nazis?

Basically. If you've ever played Okami, same premise. The B/W are devoid of hope; colored areas have active resistance from the people.
Marney1
Yep, this is my next game for sure.
Massacre
QUOTE (marney1 @ Dec 22 2009, 12:29 PM) *
Yep, this is my next game for sure.

No! Fallout 3!
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE (bOnEs @ Dec 22 2009, 12:25 PM) *
yea, the art direction is what hooked me to this game when i first heard about the title... black & white with splashes of red to represent repression and violence... it's cool that you can go and do whatever you want too... dare i say more freedom than GTAIV??

More freedom, but the Nazis are much more attentive than the police of Liberty City. Climb a building in front of a Nazi and there will be 1000's of bullets raining on you.

QUOTE (Massacre @ Dec 22 2009, 12:48 PM) *
QUOTE (marney1 @ Dec 22 2009, 12:29 PM) *
Yep, this is my next game for sure.

No! Fallout 3!

Yeah - Fallout 3 > Everything.
TheAnalogKid2112
His loss choosing this over Fallout 3.

This game looks pretty cool. I may rent it after I get my hands on Uncharted or rent Borderlands.
Ex-PS Fanboy
I'll pass. There's still too many games I need. If I find this lying in the $3.99 bin some day I might just grab it.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE (Hustler One @ Dec 22 2009, 02:27 PM) *
I'll pass. There's still too many games I need. If I find this lying in the $3.99 bin some day I might just grab it.

Yeah, you can never get too much Armored Core. Fag.

I wouldn't pick this over any of the newer games if you have the option. I'm pretty sure the price has already dropped. I think the PANDEMIC title aspect of it hurt it in a lot of people's minds before they really gave it a chance. It really is a great game, a great combination of a lot of different games with a good story and the opportunity to kill Nazis.

Win, win, win.



QUOTE (TheAnalogKid2112 @ Dec 22 2009, 02:25 PM) *
This game looks pretty cool. I may rent it after I get my hands on Uncharted or rent Borderlands.

It might be good to rent it to see if you like it, but due the epic nature of the game; it's definitely a keeper. I'll probably still be blowing up Nazi fuel depots months from now.
bOnEs
QUOTE (Hustler One @ Dec 22 2009, 02:27 PM) *
I'll pass. There's still too many games I need. If I find this lying in the $3.99 bin some day I might just grab it.

that someday may be a couple of years from now... and by then, you won't even care to pick it up... i almost bought it a couple days ago when saw some special with either bestbuy or walmart for $40... but, i am sure that sometime in the new year, the price will permanently go down to $40...
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE (bOnEs @ Dec 22 2009, 03:17 PM) *
QUOTE (Hustler One @ Dec 22 2009, 02:27 PM) *
I'll pass. There's still too many games I need. If I find this lying in the $3.99 bin some day I might just grab it.

that someday may be a couple of years from now... and by then, you won't even care to pick it up... i almost bought it a couple days ago when saw some special with either bestbuy or walmart for $40... but, i am sure that sometime in the new year, the price will permanently go down to $40...

I imagine it will be fixed at $40 very soon.

That's a real steal. You'll probably be able to get it cheaper used, but then you'll have to download the nudity patch.
bOnEs
QUOTE (Stoic Person Eater @ Dec 22 2009, 03:32 PM) *
QUOTE (bOnEs @ Dec 22 2009, 03:17 PM) *
QUOTE (Hustler One @ Dec 22 2009, 02:27 PM) *
I'll pass. There's still too many games I need. If I find this lying in the $3.99 bin some day I might just grab it.

that someday may be a couple of years from now... and by then, you won't even care to pick it up... i almost bought it a couple days ago when saw some special with either bestbuy or walmart for $40... but, i am sure that sometime in the new year, the price will permanently go down to $40...

I imagine it will be fixed at $40 very soon.

That's a real steal. You'll probably be able to get it cheaper used, but then you'll have to download the nudity patch.

is that patch for disabling nudity or to enable it? because, i thought i read that this game shipped with nudity... i'm not about to pay $3 for nudity in a game... i saw that in the PS store update last week and laughed... lol, but the sad thing is, i will probably get the add-on anyways if i have to...
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE (bOnEs @ Dec 22 2009, 04:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Stoic Person Eater @ Dec 22 2009, 03:32 PM) *
QUOTE (bOnEs @ Dec 22 2009, 03:17 PM) *
QUOTE (Hustler One @ Dec 22 2009, 02:27 PM) *
I'll pass. There's still too many games I need. If I find this lying in the $3.99 bin some day I might just grab it.

that someday may be a couple of years from now... and by then, you won't even care to pick it up... i almost bought it a couple days ago when saw some special with either bestbuy or walmart for $40... but, i am sure that sometime in the new year, the price will permanently go down to $40...

I imagine it will be fixed at $40 very soon.

That's a real steal. You'll probably be able to get it cheaper used, but then you'll have to download the nudity patch.

is that patch for disabling nudity or to enable it? because, i thought i read that this game shipped with nudity... i'm not about to pay $3 for nudity in a game... i saw that in the PS store update last week and laughed... lol, but the sad thing is, i will probably get the add-on anyways if i have to...

The nudity code comes free with the game; but it is a download. If you buy the game used, the code will probably have already been used, thus it is available online for you to retrieve. If you don't have online gaming, WTF.
bOnEs
if you don't have online gaming then, you must still be playing on a PS2 or gamecube...
bOnEs
i'm buying this here in a couple of hours... i didn't get any video games for christmas... i got pretty much everything else i wanted but, i didn't get any video games... i thought about just going out and buying uncharted 2 but, that game still retails for $60... the saboteur is $40 at bestbuy so, i'm just going to go and get that instead... i'll get uncharted when it hits $40 itself...
bOnEs
ZOMG!!! triple post!!

ok, lets get this out there right now... this is not assassin's creed or infamous or grand theft auto or metal gear solid or mercenaries or sly cooper or godfather II or any of that shit... yet it borrows from all of that shit...

assassin's creed (CQC combat and scaling buildings)
infamous (ditto on building-scaling but, collecting shards/intel = destroying nazi shit)
grand theft auto (sandbox driving and robust city)
metal gear solid (stealth and infiltrating... yes, stealth is involved and yes, it can be used quite effectively)
mercenaries (milder destruction but, the one great element this title steals from their previous pandemic games tho)
sly cooper (IDK but i feel like sly, scouting strongholds from rooftops and infiltrating undetected)
godfather II (it's also from EA and the menus, graphics, and game play feel eerily similar)

there were times when i was playing this that i felt like i was a basterd from tarintino's new flick laugh.gif... walk up on a lone nazi in the streets and snap his neck... take his suit to infiltrate an area on alert... destroy the tower... shoot my way out... flee the pursuing nazi's... ... biggrin.gif... do a mission for the family, which deals with getting revenge on more nazi's... it's like he's collecting scalps without actually cutting them off... he's turning into more of a badass the more i play, the more i understand the scheme and unlock new tools... and that's almost assassin's creed II-like...

the art direction is one to behold as well... if only this game were given more time, or had an amazing graphics team, this would be one of the best artist visions in video games... never mind the fact that color is restored to areas that you've helped liberate, or that things don't quite look polished... forget all of that, the rainy colorless streets of nazi occupied france are really fucking awesome to take in... the only colors you see are lights, blue contraband (currency), and red nazi shit... it really makes the area feel dark and dangerous... something you might want to be a little careful through... it's the boldest artistic moves in graphics that i've seen in i can't remember... it's immerse...

i like this game... the flashback that you could actually play and interact with near the beginning was really fucking sweet as well... it seemed to give to the story more strength and really, the story is starting to feel more involved... and i guess you can chalk that up to some pretty decent voice acting and writing... it's witty and devastating at the same time...

a game well worth $60 and, a game well worth checking out for those of you that spot in the bargain bin for $20 because you decided to pass on it... it's understandable... not everyone is interested in these games but, do know that there is fun to be had for a few bucks in the future...
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE (bOnEs @ Dec 28 2009, 03:21 AM) *
ZOMG!!! triple post!!

ok, lets get this out there right now... this is not assassin's creed or infamous or grand theft auto or metal gear solid or mercenaries or sly cooper or godfather II or any of that shit... yet it borrows from all of that shit...

assassin's creed (CQC combat and scaling buildings)
infamous (ditto on building-scaling but, collecting shards/intel = destroying nazi shit)
grand theft auto (sandbox driving and robust city)
metal gear solid (stealth and infiltrating... yes, stealth is involved and yes, it can be used quite effectively)
mercenaries (milder destruction but, the one great element this title steals from their previous pandemic games tho)
sly cooper (IDK but i feel like sly, scouting strongholds from rooftops and infiltrating undetected)
godfather II (it's also from EA and the menus, graphics, and game play feel eerily similar)

there were times when i was playing this that i felt like i was a basterd from tarintino's new flick laugh.gif... walk up on a lone nazi in the streets and snap his neck... take his suit to infiltrate an area on alert... destroy the tower... shoot my way out... flee the pursuing nazi's... ... biggrin.gif... do a mission for the family, which deals with getting revenge on more nazi's... it's like he's collecting scalps without actually cutting them off... he's turning into more of a badass the more i play, the more i understand the scheme and unlock new tools... and that's almost assassin's creed II-like...

the art direction is one to behold as well... if only this game were given more time, or had an amazing graphics team, this would be one of the best artist visions in video games... never mind the fact that color is restored to areas that you've helped liberate, or that things don't quite look polished... forget all of that, the rainy colorless streets of nazi occupied france are really fucking awesome to take in... the only colors you see are lights, blue contraband (currency), and red nazi shit... it really makes the area feel dark and dangerous... something you might want to be a little careful through... it's the boldest artistic moves in graphics that i've seen in i can't remember... it's immerse...

i like this game... the flashback that you could actually play and interact with near the beginning was really fucking sweet as well... it seemed to give to the story more strength and really, the story is starting to feel more involved... and i guess you can chalk that up to some pretty decent voice acting and writing... it's witty and devastating at the same time...

a game well worth $60 and, a game well worth checking out for those of you that spot in the bargain bin for $20 because you decided to pass on it... it's understandable... not everyone is interested in these games but, do know that there is fun to be had for a few bucks in the future...

Good review bones, my thoughts exactly. The only comparison you left out was to Okami - replenishing color to an area choked out by evil. Glad you got the game though.

Anyway, I played last night for the first time in about a week or so (been slammed by the holidays, work, etc.) and I played through a mission where you infiltrate a Nazi base and essentially crash a zeppelin. It was the first mission I used stealth successfully in. I managed to get past about 25-30 guard before I decided it might be more effective to use a trench gun to blast my way through the rest of the base. The mission played out like a movie; cinematic explosions; catchy one-liners ("Master race my ass!"); beautiful cut-scenes.

Dare I say I like this game more than GTA4? Yes. More action, better setting, characters, story and concept.
bOnEs
he's got a tendency to use "ass or "arse" a lot... the one liners are pretty funny and you hear them a lot just walking the streets... my favorite one is, "top of the mornin' to you, or whatever time it is" biggrin.gif...

i am not sure if i can say it is better than GTA4 but, it's pretty fun nonetheless... when driving, you get a sense that this world is nearly as big as liberty city... it does take a while to get from one end to the other... infiltration a base is quite difficult at times... because, even though your in costume, you can't just walk right pass a soldier... you have to do it from a short distance... it's fun to walk the streets in nazi garb, harassing the jews too... i'll act like an ass to them, it's funny sometimes...
Marney1
I'm getting this tommorrow, I think it's going for 30 in some stores.
bOnEs
it went back to $60 at bestbuy... good thing i got it when i did... i'm kicking myself for not getting dragon age: origins for $40 yesterday... the bestbuy rep told me it was going back up to $60 monday... i've been interested in that game as well...
Marney1
My missus has just come in with my copy of The Saboteur from GAME (forgot to take my Gamestation gift card) where it was in a sale for 29.98. Good deal considering if she bought the same game pre-owned from the same store it would have been 37!!

She asked why pre-owned was 37 and the assistant told her it was because pre-owned games are not in the sale. huh.gif
bOnEs
have fun blowing shit up biggrin.gif... i spent almost all of one evening taking out nazi stuff and barely made a dent in the map, lol... this game is going to keep you busy for sure... i'm about a third of the way through the story yet, i've only taken out about 3% of the nazi shit scattered across the map... there's over 700 in just paris alone...
DuPz0r
I like the look of this game. Does it have endurance or does it get real boring real quick? Is it a sandbox game or is it more or less linear?
Marney1
QUOTE (DuPz0r @ Jan 2 2010, 07:42 PM) *
I like the look of this game. Does it have endurance or does it get real boring real quick? Is it a sandbox game or is it more or less linear?

Well it's got tits in it.

The Awesome One
QUOTE (marney1 @ Jan 2 2010, 07:47 PM) *
QUOTE (DuPz0r @ Jan 2 2010, 07:42 PM) *
I like the look of this game. Does it have endurance or does it get real boring real quick? Is it a sandbox game or is it more or less linear?

Well it's got tits in it.



Its too fucking short! I suppose, however, he is irish, so he can not last the full 10 minutes us English can.
Marney1
Played upto where I have to follow Dierker following the Grand Prix and first impressions are that it's going to be a great story and game. Normally I turn the music off if a game allows but I think I'll leave it on with this one to give me the right feel of where I'm supposed to be.
The roads and countryside (and the towns) give you a real feel of the 1940's and the vehicles handle like I'd probably expect them to have done back then. The cut scenes are full of funny innuendos and I've got 'titties' turned on which is a must if you ask me.
The map seems quite big and I can't wait to go for an uninterrupted drive round it.

Been free roaming for a few hours and picking off the odd lone sentry which is a laugh. Got chased by loads of nazis with what I thought was no chance of getting away so I rammed my car into some kind of fuel depot to go out with a bang but somehow survived the explosion. Sean said something like "Feckin' hell I'm bleeding all over!"
bOnEs
QUOTE (DuPz0r @ Jan 2 2010, 02:42 PM) *
I like the look of this game. Does it have endurance or does it get real boring real quick? Is it a sandbox game or is it more or less linear?

it's a pure sandbox game... every missions can be approached differently (for the most part)... there's an element of stealth involved when tackling the tougher missions... you can just beat up and take a nazi outfit to help aid you in infiltrating a base... but, there's usually only one way out and that's shotgun diplomacy biggrin.gif...

it can get repetitive though... with over 700 nazi objects to destroy in paris alone, you can see where it gets repetitive... place charge here, run like hell... rinse and repeat... but, it hasn't really gotten old yet for me... i think it might get old after i beat the story and all i have left is a bunch of nazi shit to blow up yet... the story is actually quite engaging... i'm only about 33% through the missions but, it's growing on me with every mission... the voice acting and story are really pretty damn good for a video game... no uncharted 2-like but, closer to GTAIV...

and you might like the art direction of the areas controlled by nazi's... the black and white look with splashes of red is really one of the coolest art directions in a video game for me since zelda:windwaker... it's really awesome to speed down a street and watch, as the world slowly gets stripped of it's color and you speed into a nazi-controlled area... thunder starts and most of the time, it starts raining... you hear the fuhrer over the loudspeakers in these areas... it's really fucking cool IMO... it's not top notch graphics but, it's good enough and the nazi areas are quite beautiful... simple colors can go a long way for certain games...

the music is really great too... think fallout 3... in fallout, you hear all of this 40's-50's swing music, which fit the universe created by fallout... in the saboteur, you hear all of this oldies jazz music, which fits the universe perfectly... like marney said, you can't turn down the music in this game, it's too refreshing to hear... no other video game really plays that kind of music... and the main song for the game is a tune i've caught myself whispering on numerous occasions... i might make it my new ringtone laugh.gif... tell me this isn't a catchy tune...



i don't know, it's kind of a sleeper hit for me (this game is)... it reminds me so much of the godfather II... because, that was a game i thought would be fun to mess around with and i was right... the saboteur looks like fun and it turns out to actually be... i had been interested in getting it for some time... then, stoic got it and started talking about it... i couldn't stay on the fence anymore, i had to at least check it out... i'm glad i did...

but, it's not for everyone... you have to really love sandbox city games to love this game... it's controls take some getting used to but, the different take on nazi's is really refreshing to me... plus, blowing shit up never gets old...
Marney1
This game has got me wanting to watch some old war movies, not the typical WW2 fighting ones but the ones similar in story to The Saboteur. I like the ones where they follow the behind the scenes antics of the resistance right under the noses of the unsuspecting nazis. Trouble is I can't think of any.

Oh, and I have Stoic to thank for his review which convinced me to get this game. I had reservations about it at first but he sold it to me.
bOnEs
inglorious basterds is the movie that comes to mind for me when i think of this game... maybe that's because it's a recent film and both are in nazi-occupied paris... but, i feel like a basterd the way i handle the nazi's... the only thing he doesn't do is scalp a dead nazi... but, he sure kills a hell of a lot of them biggrin.gif...

with the push of L3, he smokes a cigarette too... real fitting for when your just outside of a search zone and nazi's are showing up, running right past you... it adds another cool element to your character and the deeds you do... if your stuck on which direction to go next inside a base, smoke a cigarette while you wait and study the guard's patrols... the smoking is so fitting for this game, i'm glad a game allowed you to do this and i'm surprised there's not more backlash for that...
Marney1
I like that he can smoke too (and it's only rated 15) because it would be stupid not to see it in anything from the 40's. Really enjoying the music, very jazzy.

Just been thinking after playing this for a while that it reminds me a bit of GTAIII; It's really good but you can see a lot of things that could be improved upon so hopefully there will be a sequel that adds a little more. I'm not knocking the game but there is room for improvement.
Oh, if you haven't done so already - run over a cow. laugh.gif
PabloHoneyOle
Dammit. My 360 RRoD'd while playing this game the other day. It wasn't the game that made it do it, just fucking fate I suppose, but I was in the middle of a huge mission where I had to blow up a chemical factory. I had blown up half of it, along with collecting 2000+ contraband on the way. All gone I suppose. I took the dogs out for a walk, came back and the game was frozen. I was super pissed, blamed it on the game, tried to reboot and got the RRoD.

FUCK.

I love this game. I was having withdrawals yesterday. I had nothing but free time, but no means of Sabotage.

QUOTE (marney1 @ Jan 3 2010, 02:35 PM) *
Oh, if you haven't done so already - run over a cow. laugh.gif

I don't think I've even seen a cow yet.

Also, "The red stuff is supposed to stay on the inside!"
Marney1
Is that a new XBox because the same happened not long ago didn't it? Did you just fit an X Clamp?
bOnEs
dude, i saw some cows on my way back from the village in the northwest... i didn't think to hit them with the car... now i am going to have to do that for sure... i just destroyed my first zepplin... granted, it was mission-based but, it was a pretty cool sequence of events that led to it...

btw, i see that i can unlock rockets but, i'm never going to get it if i don't figure out what the hell a "terror squad" is... i need to destroy 5 of them but, i don't even know what they are... my best guess is they are the zepplins but, i don't have anything in my arsenal that can take one down...
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE (marney1 @ Jan 4 2010, 10:04 AM) *
Is that a new XBox because the same happened not long ago didn't it? Did you just fit an X Clamp?

It's my old Xbox. It's a 2005 build. I did the X Clamp - applied new thermal grease or whatever the fuck last time it happened. I'll have someone take a look at it, but it's really pissing me off.

QUOTE (bOnEs @ Jan 4 2010, 10:50 AM) *
i just destroyed my first zepplin... granted, it was mission-based but, it was a pretty cool sequence of events that led to it...

btw, i see that i can unlock rockets but, i'm never going to get it if i don't figure out what the hell a "terror squad" is... i need to destroy 5 of them but, i don't even know what they are... my best guess is they are the zepplins but, i don't have anything in my arsenal that can take one down...

The zeppelin mission was packed with EPIC.

Terror squad is a group of soldiers that look like the Helghast(or whatever the fuck) from Killzone. Apparently, they only come out at Alarm 4. Don't forget you can buy Gold and Silver perks too.

I'm a little further than you are in the game, I've recently unlocked an RPG. It cost 1300 and only holds two rockets (without the rocket ammo upgrade). That was going to be my next purchase after the Chemical Factory when my 360 shit the bed.
bOnEs
how do you buy perks? i thought they were unlocked through your actions in the game... i'm pretty close to getting gold on a couple of perks... i just need to stealth-kill on more general to get the gold brawling perk... i'm sure i'll get that tonight...

that sucks about the xbox... that's exactly why i never even wanted to purchase one... i fear the RRoD... my original PS3 is still humming along... hell, i even still have my original PS2 working in tip-top shape... i'm surprised the failure rate for the xbox360 is considered OK... if it weren't microsoft, the 360 would be off the market by now... that failure rate is unacceptable for any medium...
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE (bOnEs @ Jan 4 2010, 01:43 PM) *
how do you buy perks? i thought they were unlocked through your actions in the game... i'm pretty close to getting gold on a couple of perks... i just need to stealth-kill on more general to get the gold brawling perk... i'm sure i'll get that tonight...

that sucks about the xbox... that's exactly why i never even wanted to purchase one... i fear the RRoD... my original PS3 is still humming along... hell, i even still have my original PS2 working in tip-top shape... i'm surprised the failure rate for the xbox360 is considered OK... if it weren't microsoft, the 360 would be off the market by now... that failure rate is unacceptable for any medium...

Yeah, if it wasn't an older console I'd be uber-pissed. The only reason I won't switch is because I FUCKING LOVE the 360. I'm addicted, seriously. I'm not as mad about the RRoD as I am sad. It lasted me about as long as a laptop so I can justify paying for another. I put some serious miles on that bastard.

Anyway, yeah - perks can be purchased from weapons dealers. They're hella expensive. Don't quote me, but Silver Perks run 2000-3000 (don't remember which) and Gold Perks are 3000 or 5000 (I'm pretty sure, 5K). They are in the furthest category to the right, I think it has a four-leaf clover. I was reading somewhere that buying the gold (and silver) perk for the Mechanic Perk is recommended instead of collecting EVERY CAR IN THE GAME and EVERY NAZI CAR IN THE GAME. Unless you're into that sort of monotony.
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