QUOTE (‹berPimpGendoIkari @ Oct 14 2009, 02:27 PM)
QUOTE (Tranque @ Oct 14 2009, 11:29 PM)
Trying to counter my arguement a mixing valid point (The strength of natural progression) and then republican angst (FUCKIN' LIBERAL) kind of waters down your whole "Take the high road stance".
See, this is where you fucked up. I have no intention of taking the high road, when this debate resorts to name calling and funny political cartoons that don't illustrate a point, I'll likely be he one to instigate it. But your joke was condescending, and erroneous (scientists think bla bla bla, they're not a single entity), and although it was a joke, it still shows how you feel, your motivations for feeling that way, and what you think of those who oppose global warming. And I know it's too late, but let's try not to get caught up in semantics.
Oh, and I'm not an angsty republican, quite the contrary.
Secondly, I do believe that the planets temperature fluctuates, but I don't think we need to be fucking with it in ways that are completely unneccessary
In areas where there are no realistic alternatives (ie, energy), there is no evidence to motivate a drastic change. it's not as simple as "let the greedy oil/mining companies fuck off, and set up green power". In reality, they can't sell off coal mines and oil rigs that no one can use, so there stuck with them until the market makes a natural progression to preferring green energy.
I don't imagine that one day someone's going to start their car one day and the world is going to immediately burst into flames. Its just regardless of how minor our actions contribute to something, whether its a fraction of a penny of a percent, we are still framing the world for the people ahead of us, our children and future generations. I'd just rather them not have to suffer for minor fuckups that we didn't really take into account today.
I also don't imagine the oil industry is going to open their arms wide and accept the death of their industry in favor of green technology, but the main point is that it cannot hurt to start a new industry that has less of an impact, regardless if you think the impact is minimal or not.
QUOTE (TreeFitty @ Oct 14 2009, 08:43 PM)
It did create (and still continues to create) new businesses and jobs in the "green" market.
(i also thought it was obvious that tranque was making a joke)
The internets are serious business!