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ViceMan
Anybody still watch it? I used to watch WWE when I was young, but I went off of it cause of the crap storylines around 2001-2002.

I've started watching TNA on Bravo recently, I have a 50/50 opinion of it, on one hand the major storylines are pretty crap and repetitive. Some of them make me laugh in their stupidity. On the other hand there's the X-division, some of those high-flying matches impressed me, the co-ordination between the wrestlers performing the moves makes it seem genuine, even though it isn't (which I know, i'm not a fucking noob.)
Massacre
I like the performance of the wrestling in TNA, even though they can't write a script for shit. I'm about done with WWE (the programming, anyway), it's just getting sad.
The Awesome One
Yea, I love it. I stopped watching TNA about a yer ago. Now people have left, been fired. And the MEM is running the show. Its just like the NWO/WCW era.
Massacre
Is anyone else sick of DX being brought back? I know they were the only original members, but I wasn't entertained until the others joined during the attitude era.
Dragon Warrior
Smackdown is fucking awesome, CM Punk, Jericho, and Shawn Michaels are the fucking saviors of wrestling right now, although Shawn Michaels is in DX.
Benzilla
Wrestling is still on? Sheesh. That shit got uncool about 1999
PabloHoneyOle
Wrestling is gay; IMO.

Same recycled storylines; character models; blah blah blah. It's soap operas for men with fake fighting; bad acting and horrible costumes.
Caliph
I used to watch wrestling a lot when I was a kid. But as soon as I began to realize that it's all scripted/pre-determined, I lost interest. I'm all for competitive sports, and as I grew up it became more clear to me that WWE isn't a sport. It's just a simulated circus show, that's all it is. I wouldn't mind the stupid storylines they have on offer but the fact everyone already knows who the winner is before the fighting begins is what puts me off. It's one gigantic TV show, which brings me to my point. I'd rather watch American Gladiators than WWE since the competition in that game show is real and not staged or fixed.

EDIT: Now if we’re talking about wrestling, as a real sport, then I’m a big fan of it, especially Collegiate Wrestling and Freestyle/Olympic wrestling, which is basically the international discipline practiced worldwide. It’s competitive, the outcomes of the matches aren’t predetermined, it’s not a ‘sports entertainment’ or ‘simulation’, and it’s 100% real.
Benzilla
QUOTE (Stoic Person Eater @ Sep 18 2009, 04:51 PM) *
Wrestling is gay; IMO.

Same recycled storylines; character models; blah blah blah. It's soap operas for men with fake fighting; bad acting and horrible costumes.


Don't forget the partial nakedness...
ConQueSteD
i can't see how "straight" men get so excited over wrestling which is sweaty men in spandex fondling/fake fighting. it does not make any sense.
Caliph
QUOTE (ConQueSteD @ Sep 18 2009, 08:37 PM) *
i can't see how "straight" men get so excited over wrestling which is sweaty men in spandex fondling/fake fighting. it does not make any sense.

I can see where you're coming from. I mean, if WWE wasn't staged or pre-determined, I might understand why people would want to watch it, due to its competitive nature. But since it's fake in the first place, you're simply watching a group of guys fondling each other, as you said.

Now real wrestling, on the other hand, is a wonderful experience. I love watching women's College or Olympic wrestling. The competition is real, the outcomes are real, and the skills some of these women have are extremely amazing.
ConQueSteD
QUOTE (Caliph @ Sep 18 2009, 01:59 PM) *
QUOTE (ConQueSteD @ Sep 18 2009, 08:37 PM) *
i can't see how "straight" men get so excited over wrestling which is sweaty men in spandex fondling/fake fighting. it does not make any sense.

I can see where you're coming from. I mean, if WWE wasn't staged or pre-determined, I might understand why people would want to watch it, due to its competitive nature. But since it's fake in the first place, you're simply watching a group of guys fondling each other, as you said.

Now real wrestling, on the other hand, is a wonderful experience. I love watching women's College or Olympic wrestling. The competition is real, the outcomes are real, and the skills some of these women have are extremely amazing.


Exactly, i also forgot to mention spooning, it sometimes looks as if they were spooning.
The Awesome One
QUOTE (Massacre @ Sep 17 2009, 10:36 PM) *
Is anyone else sick of DX being brought back? I know they were the only original members, but I wasn't entertained until the others joined during the attitude era.

I personally think Legacy is the best team ever in wrestling. They are the only thing that keeps me watching Raw. SD, is the best show at the moment and ECW was good until Vince drafted everyone about again for the 2nd time in a year.
Dragon Warrior
QUOTE (ConQueSteD @ Sep 18 2009, 01:37 PM) *
i can't see how "straight" men get so excited over wrestling which is sweaty men in spandex fondling/fake fighting. it does not make any sense.


DURR HURR FAKE FIGHTING I WANT TO SEE MENS HEADS GET BASHED FOR REAL IN BECUZ DATS MANLY

or

DURR HURR WRESTLING ISN'T COOL SO I DON'T WATCH IT BECAUSE BADASSES LIKE ME DON'T WATCH FAEK SHIT


When you realize MMA is way more gay and people would rather watch that because it's real makes it no better.

Also you need to learn how to appreciate it. This "fake fighting" has cost people major injuries. Stone Cold Steve Austin had his neck broken after taking a piledriver because it wasn't done perfectly, this guy called "Droz" is now a paraplegic because D'lo Brown fucked up a powerbomb. It takes a lot of skill to pull off these "fake moves" and knowing wrestling is fake and watching WWE for the storylines is like playing pokemon or watching porn for the story.
ViceMan
Yeah, the matches are scripted so that one person will definitely win the fight, but the wrestlers can make their own choice as to what they actually do in the ring to an extent. That's why you hear them muttering to each other sometimes, they're planning their moves.

Some of the more stupid storylines involve a referee making a silly mistake or allowing a chair shot while his back is turned. But in reality you'd just go and check on the playback monitor to see what really happened and DQ the other person, pity they've overlooked that fact. laugh.gif
Dragon Warrior
Watch SmackDown

Their storylines aren't stupid. Any storyline involving CM Punk or Chris Jericho is 100% win. Smackdown comes on tonight at 8:00 EST on MyNetwork TV.

There's this guy with a fucking giant beard who's like an evil genius and talks in verbose, it's awesome.
Massacre
^ Mike Knox? I don't watch Smackdown much.
DiO
QUOTE (Caliph @ Sep 18 2009, 01:59 PM) *
QUOTE (ConQueSteD @ Sep 18 2009, 08:37 PM) *
i can't see how "straight" men get so excited over wrestling which is sweaty men in spandex fondling/fake fighting. it does not make any sense.

I can see where you're coming from. I mean, if WWE wasn't staged or pre-determined, I might understand why people would want to watch it, due to its competitive nature. But since it's fake in the first place, you're simply watching a group of guys fondling each other, as you said.




Not all life is about competition. I enjoy the way the X division tie moves together is an aesthetic fashion. It is much like a circus meeting the fight choreography in a movie. The statement of yours I bolded suggests one can't enjoy a fight scene in a movie because it isn't real.

I am tired of the wrestling haters. I don't watch it near as much as I used too but I still like it. I know a LOT about the wrestling industry. I also sick of people thinking it's a rickless job. They get hurt all the time. And but on their show 3-5 times a week. They are in different cities everyday away from their families. There is no off season for these guys. There is no training camps were they can settle in like MMA. It's a hard fucking job and not many people have the balls to do it.

That being said, I don't like WWE. Their wrestlers don't push it hard enough. They take it easy.
Darth Sexy
I enjoy the actual wrestling in TNA, but the story lines are painful. Don't even get me started on the promos they cut. Also, Suicide? Come on. I am a big fan of Daniels, though. Nothing instils fear in the opponent like the name Daniels.

I occasionally watch Smackdown, but I've lost a lot of interest in WWE since Jeff Hardy quit. Also, WWE matches seem to be the same match every week. Smackdown usually goes Finlay/Knox, Kane/Khali (seriously, they are the most boring matches ever, Kane is well past his prime) Cm Punk comes out and says the same thing every week, Cryme Tyme/Jericho & Big show follows, and the main event is usually CM Punk winning by DQ somehow. They really need to come up with some new feuds. Also, I'm fucking sick of Cena/Orton every goddamn week on Raw.

To Conquested: a straight man can easily watch it, as long as he's comfortable in his sexuality and isn't a homophobic moron, as you seem to be.
Dragon Warrior
Jeff Hardy was fucking horrible on the mic and only knew how to jump off high shit and wear colorful clothing, he got busted for cocaine like a week or so after he quit. John Morrison is way more talented I suggest you watch Smackdown for him.

Like Jeff Hardy was worse than John Cena.
ViceMan
Back in the day (aeons ago) my favourite wrestlers were Kane - before he lost his mask - and the Hardy Boys.
Massacre
QUOTE (Dragon Warrior @ Sep 19 2009, 02:57 AM) *
Like Jeff Hardy was worse than John Cena.

Bull. Fucking. Shit. John Cena is the worst thing to happen to wrestling, ever.
ViceMan
Luckily I stopped watching WWE before he joined, although I think he was just starting out when I stopped watching, along with that Randy Orton guy and other generic looking wrestlers I can't remember the name of.
ConQueSteD
QUOTE (Dragon Warrior @ Sep 18 2009, 02:07 PM) *
QUOTE (ConQueSteD @ Sep 18 2009, 01:37 PM) *
i can't see how "straight" men get so excited over wrestling which is sweaty men in spandex fondling/fake fighting. it does not make any sense.

Also you need to learn how to appreciate it. This "fake fighting" has cost people major injuries. Stone Cold Steve Austin had his neck broken after taking a piledriver because it wasn't done perfectly, this guy called "Droz" is now a paraplegic because D'lo Brown fucked up a powerbomb. It takes a lot of skill to pull off these "fake moves" and knowing wrestling is fake and watching WWE for the storylines is like playing pokemon or watching porn for the story.


and who's dumbass fault was that? them for actually allowing stupid shit like that to happen to them, they get Paid to do fake fucking shit with consequences it's their damn stupidity. I can't appreciate shit that is fake. but then again you actually like wrestling so no wonder you got so damn offense like DS. and no im not a homophobic moron as you seem to think i am Darth because you obviously have not seen any other posts i made.
DiO
QUOTE (Darth_Sexy @ Sep 19 2009, 01:25 AM) *
To Conquested: a straight man can easily watch it, as long as he's comfortable in his sexuality and isn't a homophobic moron, as you seem to be.



Just qft.
The Awesome One
I wonder whats gonna happen after Wrestlemania 26 when HHH, HBK and Taker retire? I bet Christian will join Raw, and Morrison will be a main eventer finally.
Massacre
QUOTE (Captain.Charisma @ Sep 19 2009, 04:02 PM) *
I wonder whats gonna happen after Wrestlemania 26 when HHH, HBK and Taker retire? I bet Christian will join Raw, and Morrison will be a main eventer finally.

I could care less about HBK, but after Taker and Triple H, I think I'll be done with WWE. I'll find some Attitude Era shit online, but that'll be it.
Darth Sexy
Lol, Conquested, seems a little angry.

Aside from leaping off shit, Jeff Hardy was very good in ring. I agree though, Morrison is fantastic, and I'm glad they're finally giving him some personality. Hopefully he starts main eventing, and the addition of Batista will bring some life back to Smackdown.
ConQueSteD
QUOTE (Darth_Sexy @ Sep 19 2009, 09:35 PM) *
Lol, Conquested, seems a little angry.


you made a false accuastions if you actually knew shit about me.
Massacre
Well, it's not like the assumption was unfounded. Your comment was very homophobic.
ConQueSteD
Not really it just all seems how you look at it, and seeing as only the fans of wrestling took it homophobic.
Massacre
Putting straight in quotation marks in your comment implied that wrestling fans are gay. You don't think it's homophobic to call someone gay because of what they watch on TV, even when you don't know anything else about them?

Before this goes down a path that I'm too fucking lazy to follow, I'm not trying to argue here, I'm just trying to make sense of all this, and why everyone's getting all worked up about a TV show. For fuck sake, I'm a paranoid schizophrenic and I couldn't be more calm.
DiO
Lets not forget all wrestling programs throw in 1/2 naked hot chicks too. Just sayin....
DuPz0r
I thought the rock was cool in his prime. Coz he didn't care about anyone but himself, and i knew he'd end up in Hollywood, he just has that sort of persona.

RomanBellic
QUOTE (Massacre @ Sep 19 2009, 07:27 PM) *
QUOTE (Dragon Warrior @ Sep 19 2009, 02:57 AM) *
Like Jeff Hardy was worse than John Cena.

Bull. Fucking. Shit. John Cena is the worst thing to happen to wrestling, ever.



Dave Batista is the worst thing to happen to wrestling ever.
Massacre
When Batista puts out a rap album, I'll agree with you...
Heartless
Massacre
Can I get that in an oak frame?
Heartless
I'll stamp it and mail it to your ass. Finished, rough or accented?
Massacre
Accented. Can you engrave "Carl + Ephram Forever" on it somewhere?
Heartless
Expect 3 weeks for delivery, 2 weeks for assembly. Honcho en Mexico?
Dragon Warrior
QUOTE (Massacre @ Sep 19 2009, 02:27 PM) *
QUOTE (Dragon Warrior @ Sep 19 2009, 02:57 AM) *
Like Jeff Hardy was worse than John Cena.

Bull. Fucking. Shit. John Cena is the worst thing to happen to wrestling, ever.


Jeff Hardy can't wrestle either but he disguises it by jumping off of high shit and is fucking horrible on the mic. John Cena can at least put on good matches from time to time without having to do OMG FUKKEN INSAAAAAANE shit.

QUOTE (Massacre @ Sep 20 2009, 10:28 PM) *
When Batista puts out a rap album, I'll agree with you...


Cena's rap album was awesome.
The Awesome One
QUOTE (Dragon Warrior @ Sep 22 2009, 05:45 AM) *
QUOTE (Massacre @ Sep 19 2009, 02:27 PM) *
QUOTE (Dragon Warrior @ Sep 19 2009, 02:57 AM) *
Like Jeff Hardy was worse than John Cena.

Bull. Fucking. Shit. John Cena is the worst thing to happen to wrestling, ever.


Jeff Hardy can't wrestle either but he disguises it by jumping off of high shit and is fucking horrible on the mic. John Cena can at least put on good matches from time to time without having to do OMG FUKKEN INSAAAAAANE shit.

QUOTE (Massacre @ Sep 20 2009, 10:28 PM) *
When Batista puts out a rap album, I'll agree with you...


Cena's rap album was awesome.

Cena sucks. He cant wrestle. Ortons the best on raw.
Massacre
QUOTE (Dragon Warrior @ Sep 22 2009, 12:45 AM) *
Cena's rap album was awesome.

Not that I had any respect for you in the first place, but if I had, it'd be gone now.
DiO
The best wrestlers were Bret Hart, Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle and Brock Lesner. The last match I seen from WWE that actually impressed me was on fucking ECW or heat or some shit. It was undercard for sure anyways. It was Morrison vs some little fuckin guy. Dam good match.
Darth Sexy
With the discussion of wreslters releasing albums, I would like to say that the Macho Man Randy Savage is the king of rap.






So much better than Hulk's album.
GLC
Uh, last time I watched this there was a storyline about Kane putting his mask back on or something. I'unno, quite a while ago. I think Rey Mysterio was involved too...
The Awesome One
Im watching Smackdown on my V+ box. Its been great compared to Raw, and ECW.
Darth Sexy
Is it just me or is Raw/Smackdown the same damn show every week? The same matches, sometimes with slight variations, the same feuds, the same shitty promos. I only watch Smackdown for John Morrison, these days. Thank god for TNA. The acting and promos may be shit, but at least the matches are good and have variation from week to week.
The Awesome One
QUOTE (Darth_Sexy @ Oct 2 2009, 08:52 AM) *
Is it just me or is Raw/Smackdown the same damn show every week? The same matches, sometimes with slight variations, the same feuds, the same shitty promos. I only watch Smackdown for John Morrison, these days. Thank god for TNA. The acting and promos may be shit, but at least the matches are good and have variation from week to week.

Smackdowns the best show in the WWE. Guys like Chris Jericho and CM Punk are the only people who make it entertaining. Anyway, 10th anniversary of Smackdown tonight, im just tuning into to sky sports in a sec to see whats going on.
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