Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Police Brutality
iGrandTheftAuto.com Forums > GTA4.TV/GTA-SanAndreas.com Archive > Old Forum Archive (Read Only) > General > Political & World Issues
Pages: 1, 2
Marney1
You might be aware of the fella dying of a heart attack in London during the protests but have you seen the footage of how it came about?
The Police will no doubt worm their way out of it though like they always do.

The Bizzie who knocked him over would be the same type to say yes to the question;
'Would you fire on your own citizens in case of unrest'.

Cunt.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 8 2009, 08:34 AM) [snapback]1494681[/snapback]
You might be aware of the fella dying of a heart attack in London during the protests but have you seen the footage of how it came about?
The Police will no doubt worm their way out of it though like they always do.

The Bizzie who knocked him over would be the same type to say yes to the question;
'Would you fire on your own citizens in case of unrest'.

Cunt.

Why don't you post a link to the footage to make this topic relevant instead of just calling someone a cunt for doing their job and trying to keep the peace with a bunch of people protesting and being assholes; trying to start a fight with the police.

I'd become a police officer just to be a part of a riot squad.
Give me some rubber pellets and a billy club and I'll give some obnoxious protesters more than a heart attack.

Marney1
If you see the footage of what happened you would see that the victim was totally innocent so the policeman who twatted him is a cunt!

As for posting links and pictures I honestly dont know how to.
I just about figured how to change my avatar.
I'm computer illiterate which is why I just write things.
PabloHoneyOle
[youtube]t244-zEENSs[/youtube]

I'm not a huge fan of the police; but when it comes to handling protesters and mobs of people, they have to do their job to disperse the crowds. The protesters are morons; they stand in the way with their hands up, but keep challenging the police by pushing against them. They're all there with an "anti-establishment" mindset and the power of the mob gets control of their actions; causing them to act like assholes instead of holding a peaceful demonstration.

I'd crack skulls.

Everyone of those protesters needs to go the fuck home and stop polluting the streets.
Marney1
Reports at the moment are saying he wasn't a protester, just someone trying to get home.
The truth will emerge in due course.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 8 2009, 10:17 AM) [snapback]1494704[/snapback]
Reports at the moment are saying he wasn't a protester, just someone trying to get home.
The truth will emerge in due course.

In that case, his death is not cool. A case of wrong place, wrong time.

If anyone should be at fault; it should be the mob of protesters for holding a ruckus in the streets where he was trying to travel home.
Massacre
QUOTE(Stoic Person Eater @ Apr 8 2009, 09:32 AM) [snapback]1494694[/snapback]

^ That's a job I'd take in a heartbeat.

No doubt the cops will get away with it, assuming your government is as corrupt as ours.
The Awesome One
I live in london, I dont know if the protests went past my flat as I went to my parents place for those days but a friend said he got caught up in it-said it was the worst day in his life...
Marney1
QUOTE(therealcbc @ Apr 8 2009, 05:17 PM) [snapback]1494718[/snapback]
I live in london, I dont know if the protests went past my flat as I went to my parents place for those days but a friend said he got caught up in it-said it was the worst day in his life...



'Caught up' in it you say?
This makes it possible that the victim may have also been a passerby who got caught up in it then.
PabloHoneyOle
Video Footage:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/08/t...-police-officer
TwoFacedTanner
Wow. He got killed by being pushed down?
Marney1
He was actually on his way home from an afternoon drink at his local.
Cunts.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
QUOTE(Stoic Person Eater @ Apr 8 2009, 03:42 PM) [snapback]1494709[/snapback]
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 8 2009, 10:17 AM) [snapback]1494704[/snapback]
Reports at the moment are saying he wasn't a protester, just someone trying to get home.
The truth will emerge in due course.

In that case, his death is not cool. A case of wrong place, wrong time.

If anyone should be at fault; it should be the mob of protesters for holding a ruckus in the streets where he was trying to travel home.
That's ridiculous. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

Do you know anything about kettling? Met police have been so scared since losing control of the city centre during the Poll Tax riots 19 years ago, they've developed a tactic where they contain protestors inside an oppressively small area for hours (up to 10 this time), letting people in and not letting them out. In this area there was no access to toilet facilities, and stories of highly unsanitary practices have been circulating. Similarly there is a risk posed to diabetics, should they plan on attending a 2 hour protest and are needlessly held against their will, without commiting any offence as defined by common law, for several times as long. This practice is known as kettling, and it's no wonder it leads to aggression.

It means that areas can be so crowded that access for medical attention may be difficult towards the more aggressively contained areas, which Tomlinson may have been walking through when he collapsed. Whether or not this was a factor remains to be seen.

Whether or not this was a factor, this was no death by misadventure. This was an unaggravated assault on an innocent man, which led incontravertably to his death. A policeman abused his position of power and in doing so ended a man's life. There is no recourse to the defence of "following orders". There was to be no confusion.

This death is the result of an overreaching police state, make no mistake. Failure to take a stand now could lead to dire consequences in future.
QUOTE(TwoFacedTanner @ Apr 8 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]1494773[/snapback]
Wow. He got killed by being pushed down?
I think it's rather distasteful for you to insinuate that the man's death was in any way his own fault for not being resilient enough. Whatever you meant by it, it's disrespectful and irrelevant to the point of the topic.
TwoFacedTanner
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Apr 8 2009, 10:06 PM) [snapback]1494803[/snapback]
.
QUOTE(TwoFacedTanner @ Apr 8 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]1494773[/snapback]
Wow. He got killed by being pushed down?
I think it's rather distasteful for you to insinuate that the man's death was in any way his own fault for not being resilient enough. Whatever you meant by it, it's disrespectful and irrelevant to the point of the topic.


God damn.
I didn't say it was his fault, I was genuinely surprised that getting pushed to the ground later killed him.

I don't know who pissed in your fucking cheerios, but honestly, quit acting like a baby.



Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
My bad, man. This isn't really anything to get riled up about.
The Awesome One
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 8 2009, 05:31 PM) [snapback]1494719[/snapback]
QUOTE(therealcbc @ Apr 8 2009, 05:17 PM) [snapback]1494718[/snapback]
I live in london, I dont know if the protests went past my flat as I went to my parents place for those days but a friend said he got caught up in it-said it was the worst day in his life...



'Caught up' in it you say?
This makes it possible that the victim may have also been a passerby who got caught up in it then.
I dont know what he means, knowing him, sarcasm.


QUOTE(TwoFacedTanner @ Apr 9 2009, 04:25 AM) [snapback]1494808[/snapback]
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Apr 8 2009, 10:06 PM) [snapback]1494803[/snapback]
.
QUOTE(TwoFacedTanner @ Apr 8 2009, 10:23 PM) [snapback]1494773[/snapback]
Wow. He got killed by being pushed down?
I think it's rather distasteful for you to insinuate that the man's death was in any way his own fault for not being resilient enough. Whatever you meant by it, it's disrespectful and irrelevant to the point of the topic.


God damn.
I didn't say it was his fault, I was genuinely surprised that getting pushed to the ground later killed him.

I don't know who pissed in your fucking cheerios, but honestly, quit acting like a baby.

His head probably hit the floor.
Mekstizzle
Anything can trigger a Heart Attack, but to think that this Assault had no role in his death, which happened minutes afterwards, would be stupidly naive.

It's not even about the death, even if he didn't die, this is still plain and simple, assault on a man with his hands on his pockets and his back facing the police. That coward with his tacticool balaclava smacked him from behind with a baton like a bitch, the guy did not in any way deserve that, and believe me, there were alot of people at those protests that did deserved their share of the beatings, but this guy didn't deserve anything of the sort

What's worse is how long that group of police stood silent about the issue even when the video was shown. Only recently have about 4 people come forward, that alone shows their true colours

I understand police can get heated up in a riot but I don't understand how no matter how you feel you could just attack someone from behind who's walking away from you with his hands in his pockets and no threat whatsoever, you wouldn't even be such a bitch to someone you personally hate
Marney1
Most of the other police you see wont identify themselves because they know they will be in the shit when the investigation gets underway.



CUNTS
Pieface
Just my two cents, I'm not saying anything as of what happened due to the media trying to portray everything about it, and we didn't see fully what happened before he got pushed. But on my outlook on the video he didn't look like a man who was trying to go home he just seemed to be standing around.
Marney1
Still, it's clearly an abuse of power.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE(Pieface @ Apr 9 2009, 07:49 AM) [snapback]1494850[/snapback]
But on my outlook on the video he didn't look like a man who was trying to go home he just seemed to be standing around.

I agree.
If there are protests going on in the streets that you don't want to be a part of; you don't leisurely stroll down the streets while a patrol with dogs walk up behind you.
The Awesome One
QUOTE(Pieface @ Apr 9 2009, 12:49 PM) [snapback]1494850[/snapback]
Just my two cents, I'm not saying anything as of what happened due to the media trying to portray everything about it, and we didn't see fully what happened before he got pushed. But on my outlook on the video he didn't look like a man who was trying to go home he just seemed to be standing around.

He might of said something to them, or might look dangerous, but at the end of the day when hes pushed down he is posing no threat. Hes just walking away.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Apr 8 2009, 11:06 PM) [snapback]1494803[/snapback]
Do you know anything about kettling? Met police have been so scared since losing control of the city centre during the Poll Tax riots 19 years ago, they've developed a tactic where they contain protestors inside an oppressively small area for hours (up to 10 this time), letting people in and not letting them out.

No, I'm not aware of British Police strategies, etc.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
QUOTE(Stoic Person Eater @ Apr 9 2009, 01:53 PM) [snapback]1494858[/snapback]
QUOTE(Pieface @ Apr 9 2009, 07:49 AM) [snapback]1494850[/snapback]
But on my outlook on the video he didn't look like a man who was trying to go home he just seemed to be standing around.

I agree.
If there are protests going on in the streets that you don't want to be a part of; you don't leisurely stroll down the streets while a patrol with dogs walk up behind you.
You takin' the piss blad? What's your point?


QUOTE(Stoic Person Eater @ Apr 9 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]1494860[/snapback]
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Apr 8 2009, 11:06 PM) [snapback]1494803[/snapback]
Do you know anything about kettling? Met police have been so scared since losing control of the city centre during the Poll Tax riots 19 years ago, they've developed a tactic where they contain protestors inside an oppressively small area for hours (up to 10 this time), letting people in and not letting them out.

No, I'm not aware of British Police strategies, etc.
Well now you know.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Apr 9 2009, 01:45 PM) [snapback]1494900[/snapback]
QUOTE(Stoic Person Eater @ Apr 9 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]1494860[/snapback]

No, I'm not aware of British Police strategies, etc.
Well now you know.

Thanks for the most worthless lesson I'll ever learn.

Unless I become a policeman just to take part in the brutality as a job perk.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
Yeah man, it has nothing to do with the topic at hand my bad.
Hardcore Ottoman
Well, actually I'm glad someone told me. I'm not quite a protester but I'm a "guilty observer" like the man mentioned in the report. So I would not appreciate what he had done to him, done to me. Seriously. Thanks. smile.gif
Marney1
I've just read in a paper that the policeman in question had an apparent heart-attack when he saw himself on T.V hitting the victim................Karma eh?
TwoFacedTanner
Is he dead?
Marney1
QUOTE(TwoFacedTanner @ Apr 12 2009, 05:51 PM) [snapback]1495265[/snapback]
Is he dead?


Unfortunately no, he isn't. But he is suspended from duty so it's not all bad news.
new major on the block
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 9 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]1494844[/snapback]
Most of the other police you see wont identify themselves because they know they will be in the shit when the investigation gets underway.



CUNTS


Eh, the real cunts were the dumbass protestors in the streets acting like fools thinking that being there is actually goona accomplish something. Guess what, they didn't, except getting that guy killed. And thats an undisputable fact. If they werent there trashing the streets and wasting government money to pay cops to look after their asses then i'm sure that guy would be home right now banging the babysitter.
The Awesome One
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 12 2009, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1495263[/snapback]
I've just read in a paper that the policeman in question had an apparent heart-attack when he saw himself on T.V hitting the victim................Karma eh?

Heart attack? He handed himself in about 3-4 days ago.You posted this yesterday, that means it happened a day before as the papers are 24 hours late, so he had a heart attack 48 hours ago? But he had already handed himself in and its said he handed himself in after seeing it on TV.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE(new major on the block @ Apr 13 2009, 03:04 AM) [snapback]1495425[/snapback]
Eh, the real cunts were the dumbass protestors in the streets acting like fools thinking that being there is actually goona accomplish something. Guess what, they didn't, except getting that guy killed. And thats an undisputable fact. If they werent there trashing the streets and wasting government money to pay cops to look after their asses then i'm sure that guy would be home right now banging the babysitter.

I agree. Except the part about banging the babysitter.
psychÝ
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 12 2009, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1495263[/snapback]
I've just read in a paper that the policeman in question had an apparent heart-attack when he saw himself on T.V hitting the victim................Karma eh?

Any source, as I really don't believe anything you say.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 12 2009, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1495263[/snapback]
I've just read in a paper that the policeman in question had an apparent heart-attack when he saw himself on T.V hitting the victim................Karma eh?

I heard the police man had a heart attack after he read this post on GTA4.tv. That's right, he's a member.

Go figure.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 13 2009, 10:13 AM) [snapback]1495468[/snapback]
QUOTE(psychÝ @ Apr 13 2009, 02:45 PM) [snapback]1495459[/snapback]
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 12 2009, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1495263[/snapback]
I've just read in a paper that the policeman in question had an apparent heart-attack when he saw himself on T.V hitting the victim................Karma eh?

Any source, as I really don't believe anything you say.

Click to view attachment

There you go.

What the fuck is that? I'm afraid to click on it.
Marney1
QUOTE(psychÝ @ Apr 13 2009, 02:45 PM) [snapback]1495459[/snapback]
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 12 2009, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1495263[/snapback]
I've just read in a paper that the policeman in question had an apparent heart-attack when he saw himself on T.V hitting the victim................Karma eh?

Any source, as I really don't believe anything you say.




There you go.http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/04/11/g20-cop-who-hit-ian-tomlinson-has-a-heart-attack-115875-21272200/
Oh shit, check below instead.
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 13 2009, 10:42 AM) [snapback]1495478[/snapback]
QUOTE(psychÝ @ Apr 13 2009, 02:45 PM) [snapback]1495459[/snapback]
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 12 2009, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1495263[/snapback]
I've just read in a paper that the policeman in question had an apparent heart-attack when he saw himself on T.V hitting the victim................Karma eh?

Any source, as I really don't believe anything you say.




There you go.http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/04/11/g20-cop-who-hit-ian-tomlinson-has-a-heart-attack-115875-21272200/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2...15875-21272200/
Marney1
Ha Ha Thanks Stoic I was about to throw my laptop out the window!!
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
QUOTE(new major on the block @ Apr 13 2009, 08:04 AM) [snapback]1495425[/snapback]
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 9 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]1494844[/snapback]
Most of the other police you see wont identify themselves because they know they will be in the shit when the investigation gets underway.



CUNTS


Eh, the real cunts were the dumbass protestors in the streets acting like fools thinking that being there is actually goona accomplish something. Guess what, they didn't, except getting that guy killed. And thats an undisputable fact. If they werent there trashing the streets and wasting government money to pay cops to look after their asses then i'm sure that guy would be home right now banging the babysitter.
Yeah they clearly made it impossible for the police not to assault that guy.

Please.
new major on the block
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Apr 13 2009, 10:36 PM) [snapback]1495588[/snapback]
QUOTE(new major on the block @ Apr 13 2009, 08:04 AM) [snapback]1495425[/snapback]
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 9 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]1494844[/snapback]
Most of the other police you see wont identify themselves because they know they will be in the shit when the investigation gets underway.



CUNTS


Eh, the real cunts were the dumbass protestors in the streets acting like fools thinking that being there is actually goona accomplish something. Guess what, they didn't, except getting that guy killed. And thats an undisputable fact. If they werent there trashing the streets and wasting government money to pay cops to look after their asses then i'm sure that guy would be home right now banging the babysitter.
Yeah they clearly made it impossible for the police not to assault that guy.

Please.


You must've missed what i was trying to say then. If they, the idiot rioters and protestors, hadn't been there in the first place, non of it would've happened.
1+1=2. simple math. 2-1=1
Understand now or must i read you the ABC's too?
Marney1
QUOTE(new major on the block @ Apr 14 2009, 10:06 PM) [snapback]1495791[/snapback]
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Apr 13 2009, 10:36 PM) [snapback]1495588[/snapback]
QUOTE(new major on the block @ Apr 13 2009, 08:04 AM) [snapback]1495425[/snapback]
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 9 2009, 10:56 AM) [snapback]1494844[/snapback]
Most of the other police you see wont identify themselves because they know they will be in the shit when the investigation gets underway.



CUNTS


Eh, the real cunts were the dumbass protestors in the streets acting like fools thinking that being there is actually goona accomplish something. Guess what, they didn't, except getting that guy killed. And thats an undisputable fact. If they werent there trashing the streets and wasting government money to pay cops to look after their asses then i'm sure that guy would be home right now banging the babysitter.
Yeah they clearly made it impossible for the police not to assault that guy.

Please.


You must've missed what i was trying to say then. If they, the idiot rioters and protestors, hadn't been there in the first place, non of it would've happened.
1+1=2. simple math. 2-1=1
Understand now or must i read you the ABC's too?


You better read the ABC's mate 'cos you are beginning to sound like a communist.
You obviously have no idea about the world of politics. If you don't know something then research it instead of making off the cuff numbskull remarks.
new major on the block
So im a communist? Yet these protestors were full of anarchists. They sure as hell weren't environmentalists hell bent on making their voices heard about how bad of shape the world is in considering all the trash in the streets. Maybe my opinion on their obvious stupididity in protesting or marching for a cause that won't result in any change is seen as communist in your book but it isn't. I see no reason to waste time in something that is little more than a shared temper tantrum of a group of adults.
Marney1
QUOTE(new major on the block @ Apr 14 2009, 10:55 PM) [snapback]1495798[/snapback]
So im a communist? Yet these protestors were full of anarchists. They sure as hell weren't environmentalists hell bent on making their voices heard about how bad of shape the world is in considering all the trash in the streets. Maybe my opinion on their obvious stupididity in protesting or marching for a cause that won't result in any change is seen as communist in your book but it isn't. I see no reason to waste time in something that is little more than a shared temper tantrum of a group of adults.


Dear New Roll In The Bog,
I didn't call you a communist, now go and take your mouth to the toilet and defacate from it.
Yours faithfully marney1.
new major on the block
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 14 2009, 10:05 PM) [snapback]1495800[/snapback]
QUOTE(new major on the block @ Apr 14 2009, 10:55 PM) [snapback]1495798[/snapback]
So im a communist? Yet these protestors were full of anarchists. They sure as hell weren't environmentalists hell bent on making their voices heard about how bad of shape the world is in considering all the trash in the streets. Maybe my opinion on their obvious stupididity in protesting or marching for a cause that won't result in any change is seen as communist in your book but it isn't. I see no reason to waste time in something that is little more than a shared temper tantrum of a group of adults.


Dear New Roll In The Bog,
I didn't call you a communist, now go and take your mouth to the toilet and defacate from it.
Yours faithfully marney1.


LMAO Wow You got me there chief
Indy
What were they protesting about?
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
QUOTE(new major on the block @ Apr 14 2009, 10:55 PM) [snapback]1495798[/snapback]
So im a communist? Yet these protestors were full of anarchists. They sure as hell weren't environmentalists hell bent on making their voices heard about how bad of shape the world is in considering all the trash in the streets. Maybe my opinion on their obvious stupididity in protesting or marching for a cause that won't result in any change is seen as communist in your book but it isn't. I see no reason to waste time in something that is little more than a shared temper tantrum of a group of adults.
It boils down to their right to protest and their lack of malice in doing so. The rest is all just hot authoritarian water.
Marney1
Click to view attachment This game looks great.
PabloHoneyOle
^This is great. This is your best post ever.
Marney1
QUOTE(Stoic Person Eater @ Apr 24 2009, 10:17 PM) [snapback]1498496[/snapback]
^This is great. This is your best post ever.


Thanks man! I did it for you! rolleyes.gif
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2014 Invision Power Services, Inc.