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bOnEs
just putting this out there...

who's interested in buying this game next week? i've been following this game for a few months now because, it's grand theft auto meets the mob... and i am just a sucker for those sandbox-city games biggrin.gif... but, this game has all the elements from the first game (that i never played) but, adding in a new feature called "the don's view" which plays out like a RTS game... sounds impressive to be down on the streets with your fellow men blowing shit up, while also controlling the entire family from the don's view... you can hire your own men, promote em, upgrade em, customize em, or whack em laugh.gif... you can take over various rackets and fronts... the "black hand" gameplay sounds like a ton of fun to play, where you try to find a store owners (or mob bosses) weak point, whether it be shooting up the place, punching them a few times, throwing them around the room, etc, basically bullying them into giving you their business/racket/information/whatever...

not sure how the gameplay/action will pan out, i'm guessing something along the lines of saints row 2, which was fun to play... but, it's the don's view aspect that's got me really interested... as much as i love GTA-esque games, i love a good strategy game... having to carefully plan your moves and actions within a mob family, to take down other mob families, just sounds too fun to pass up for me...

don't tell me the game barely fallows the movie storyline... it's been said that it only takes certain elements, and the atmosphere from the movies... while delivering a "what-if" storyline where you get to take control of a family for the bosses from the movies... it follows some of the plot but hell, i didn't want a complete adaptation anyways... that wouldn't make for a fun game... this game basically lets you act like a don, as if you were a part of the godfather family... and turns you lose in the godfather environment, letting you tell your own mob story...

plus, it's got online modes that you can use to earn money and upgrades for your made men, to help make them that much more lethal and effective in your own game... this game just sounds like a lot of fun for me... i don't buy many games but, when i do, i usually can spot the ones that are gonna be fun for me to play... this one looks like one of those games biggrin.gif...
TwoFacedTanner
The first game, the controls and animations were awkward, and I dunno, Im kinda interested, but from what I've seen the game is a lot like the first one still.
PabloHoneyOle
I'm not running out and buying this.

I might get it way down the road. After it comes out, I'll buy the first one for like $20 at Gamestop, play that and decide if I want to progress in the series.

I'll wait and see what people think. I'm not dropping $60 on a gamble like that.

Might be good; but only time will tell.
bOnEs
it's understandable that others might be weary of this game... i for one am looking forward to it because the whole concept sounds like too much fun... i'm not expecting a top-notch, game of the year type output here... i'm expecting a fun little shoot em up, with elements of strategy sprinkled in... something that could be played a couple times with totally different approaches to taking over the three different cities, cuba, miami and new york...

and it's not all "run-n-gun" like GTA and saints row... i think you can actually sit back and let your thugs do most of the work, while you pitch in here and there when your needed... or you can take the whole "hands on" approach and get your hands dirty just like the rest of your crew...

i'm just totally looking forward to strategically taking over a city... i guess it's not for everyone...
PabloHoneyOle
I like the idea of the strategy element. I don't want another GTA wannabe.

I hope it's good. I'd like to play it, I loved the movie.
bOnEs
but, there's tons of GTA wannabe's out there... GTAIII unleashed a whole new generation of games... games built with the same concept of a sandbox city... i'm actually glad there's more to choose form than just GTA because, you can only beat the game so many times before it's retired for good... and game companies realized that there's a market for those kinds of games so, they're just following what the people want... and that's more GTA-esque games... and i for one am fucking happy!! i love those kinds of games biggrin.gif...

granted though, there are some really shitty knockoffs like true crime and that new vin diesel game (*shutters*) but, as long as there are the scarface's and saints row's out there, the genre stays alive and well...
Indy
I'll wait abit for reviews an hopefully a demo before buyin this. It definetly interests me though.
Kamahl
i just hope theres a demo... cant say ill buy it
TwoFacedTanner
I just had a session of Scarface: The World is Yours.
You kinda have an empire to run. You have henchmen follow you around and stuff.
Kinda been making want to play this.
bOnEs
yea, scarface might be one of the best GTA-esque games... i've been playing some saints row 2... i think the arcade feel you get from saints row 2 and scarface will be similar in GFII... but, scarface does have a bit of the strategy you might find in GFII... what, with managing your businesses, and setting up protection and whatnot...

i think i might have to play scarface again now laugh.gif... thankfully i own a copy...
bOnEs
ok, got a whole night under my belt with this title... it's fun!

the action/gunfights resemble saints row 2 but, there's an actual lock-on button to make the action funner and faster... it works well and adds to the shooting aspect... and you can control your men and tell them to either follow you or goto the location your crosshairs are currently at... that system works really well because you can kinda send your own guys ahead of you to scout or take out enemies in another room while you work on the ones in a different room... and your men are pretty useful for once, with each one featuring a "special" skill... and promoting your men adds additional special skills... i haven't gotten far enough to promote anyone above soldier but, i do have three followers now... and they dish out death as well as i can... well, not as good but, pretty good... and you'll love the fact that your men are quite useful, and their special skills can help out tremendously sometimes... the ability to cut the power at a racket to prevent them from calling backup is ingenious!! can't enter the front door? then use your demolitions expert to blow open the back door... my followers skills are medic, demolitions, and safecracking... the safecracker ability so far proves to be probably the most resourceful skill since, every single location has some sort of safe somewhere in the building, adding more money to your pockets...

i really like the followers you hire... they really add to the overall experience... and gives you a sense of realism since, who rolls into a warehouse alone and takes out 20 guys? niko bellic, that's who... the whole family tree aspect is totally awesome and your able to customize your own men once you hire them... you can't change their hairstyle (and there's some really goofy ones too) but, you can change the clothes and accessories... as well as purchasing upgrades like better weapons and better health... it's like an RPG inside of an action title when it comes to leveling your characters...

driving is quite arcadish... again resembling saints row 2 but, not as refined... but, driving doesn't seem to be as important to the game as it was in GTAIV... so, i can't really complain about it because, it's not a big part of the game... sure, you'll have to drive to some locations but, the map size for each city is relatively small and really, most of the locations you can visit aren't that far apart from each other... nothing a nice jog wouldn't take care of if you hate the car physics (they're not bad though)...

the "don's view" is a pretty resourceful and a fun feature... bringing strategy to a sandbox world... it's not as involved as you might think but, it's essential to be successful... it's from here that you pretty much make all your decisions... check your objectives, get a summary on every building like guard counts, and who owns the racket/front... and with your own businesses, assigning guards and/or one of your made men to protect the business from enemy families... lots of menus and information can be found in the don's view... it's like the pause button on steroids laugh.gif...

the graphics are kinda weak... it looks like it was one of the first PS3 titles released with jagged edges and plain textures... or a glorified PS2 game... which ever way you want to look at it, it's not top of the line graphics... but, its not so bad that it takes away from the experience... it's just noticeable if you looking for it... i didn't even notice it after a couple hours into it... the character models are ok, and voice work is pretty decent... lighting is decent and the animations are decent... overall, it's not too shabby... once i get to miami i'll be able to make a good judgement on the environment but from what i see so far, new york seems like new york... and the setting i think is it's strongest point... it really does feel like your walking around in the 50's...

i am not far at all... 10% completed and i am still in new york, the first city you try to take over... there's not much here though, it's kinda of like a tutorial city... teaching you what it takes to maintain a successful family, how to control crime rings and rackets, and how to manage your family... but, it's fun and enjoyable... it's not for everyone but, if you like the GTA style of games, there's a new option to choose from... it's just not better than some of the titles in that genre...

i give it a 7/10... it's fun and it will give me something new to play for a little while... but, i've read that it can be beat in 10-12 hours, which is pretty short for a sandbox city game... but, it's fun enough to be played a second time... and besides, it's gonna take me 20+ hours to beat because i play games a little slower than most... i like to enjoy the experience, not rush through it as fast as i can...

i'm sure there's more aspects to talk about with this game but, i think i typed enough already laugh.gif...
DuPz0r
I am weary about getting this game. it just doesn't seem to evolved much in terms of content, animation and graphics. I'm sure the story will be fine though. I love the GF films.
bOnEs
the story is kinda weak... but, the overall mood is dead on... you feel a part of the world of the godfather... the games story spins off from the meeting of the families in cuba, where your michael's right hand man appointed to set up shop in new york to re-establish the corleone's interests...

made it florida last night and that map is like 3 times the size of new york!! so, when i said that driving isn't that important because of the size of the maps, i was wrong... driving becomes an even bigger issue in florida... and the big issue with driving is it's hard to make sharp turns (even with the handbrake), and it's impossible to travel without running into something that completely brings the car to a halt... sports cars are the worst... you'd think it would help you travel across the city much faster but, the fact that you''ll run into everything on the way there completely voids that action... i find that driving the big 4 door sedans are your best chance to make it across the city without destroying your car... the sports cars have barely any health... and the big sedans can take a hit or two without coming to a complete stop...

the strategy part is starting to get hard a frustrating... it's not hard in the sense that i can't kill anyone... it's gotten hard in the fact that i am having a hard time maintaining control of rackets and crime rings... i see i am under attack so, i send on of my made men as reenforcement... it's one made guy (whose health and combat strength is stronger than a normal enemy) to help out my 10 guards already posted there... and they can't even handle taking on one made guy and 5 guards from a rival family... i just took a diamond smuggling racket in hopes of breaking up their monopoly on that crime ring, which grants body armor for their guards when you own all three, and i am still struggling to fight these guys off... not me personally, i can handle any combat situation, but my family members who i send off to fight without controlling them... they struggle when i am not involved...

i keep reading reviews that state how easy this game is but, i am finding it to be far from that... maybe it's because i am moving through the game at a snails pace because, i am guessing that if you fly through the missions you have less problems with enemies trying to take your rackets... when you move at the speed i do, as soon as a conflict has been resolved at one location, a new one pops up almost immediately somewhere else... i'm guessing that if you play fast, you have less instances of enemies trying to take a racket... and that's just pointless and not fun at all...

the game is still fun to play but, i don't wanna fly through it just to make it easier on myself... and i shouldn't even have that problem because, the game shouldn't be a race to the finish... oh well, i've gotten a better idea of how to handle these kinds of situations today on the internet so, i'll put these strategies to the test tonight and see if it redeems itself...
bOnEs
well, i see no one here seems to of played this game since i seem to be the only one posting here... its a shame really because, i've had a lot of fun playing this game this past week... still haven't beat it but, i am in the final city, and i am getting close to completing it... don't let the reviews sway your opinion... i didn't and i found a fun little gem to add to my gaming collection... at least rent and see what you think... plus, it's got easy trophies/achievements for those interested...

i've had so much fun managing my men, strategically blowing up rival businesses, taking them by force by either sending said amount of men or doing it myself, and strategically sending a certain amount of my own men to defend a racket... it can get a little repetitive because it's basically the same set of strategy for all businesses... but, at least the interiors vary enough to keep it interesting... and the enemies attack with a varied amount of men so, the strategy of how many of your own you send can change... plus, if you already sent some of them to defend a different racket, you might find yourself in trouble when they try to take a different one... you might have to pay one of them a visit personally laugh.gif...

and i bitched about the driving in an earlier post but, after doing a lot of driving since then, it's not too bad... weak crashes can still bring you to a sudden halt but, the controls don't bother me as much anymore... plus, you don't do much with driving anyways, just to get from point A to point B... and used for the occasional run from the police, which doesn't happen very often throughout the story... you can initiate it yourself but, there's only a couple of missions where the police get involved... plus, you can bribe them anyways too...

i am changing my score from 7/10 to 8/10 because, it got funner as the week rolled on... it's been enough fun that now that i know how to play, i think i might have a lot more fun on my second play... plus, i wanna make a totally different mob face and style for my next character biggrin.gif... and employ some different tactics early on...

rent it and see for yourself... don't let some of the crappy reviews make up your mind for yourself... the crappy ones seem like they knew they weren't gonna like it, and played it with that mindset, instead of with an open mind... it's a worthy induction to the free-roaming city games IMO because, it's different than most...
PabloHoneyOle
Bones, loan me $60, I'll pick this up and post plenty about it.

In other related news, EA is trying to get back all of the gold brass knuckles it sent out as a promotional item. Apparently, it's illegal to even provide brass knuckles to someone more so than it is to possess them.

http://kotaku.com/5207521/update-ea-ships-...ne=true&s=x
Marney1
^ Fuck me I thought he was joking.
bOnEs
QUOTE(Stoic Person Eater @ Apr 13 2009, 11:19 AM) [snapback]1495486[/snapback]
Bones, loan me $60, I'll pick this up and post plenty about it.

In other related news, EA is trying to get back all of the gold brass knuckles it sent out as a promotional item. Apparently, it's illegal to even provide brass knuckles to someone more so than it is to possess them.
http://kotaku.com/5207521/update-ea-ships-...ne=true&s=x

rent it you cheap fuck!!!

i wish i would of gotten a promotional item sad.gif... i didn't even reserve it to get the free in-game character...
Full Metal Monkey
QUOTE(Stoic Person Eater @ Apr 13 2009, 04:19 PM) [snapback]1495486[/snapback]
Bones, loan me $60, I'll pick this up and post plenty about it.

In other related news, EA is trying to get back all of the gold brass knuckles it sent out as a promotional item. Apparently, it's illegal to even provide brass knuckles to someone more so than it is to possess them.

http://kotaku.com/5207521/update-ea-ships-...ne=true&s=x


Looks like every major games developer is jumping on the Ectasy-In-A-Box band wagon.

Doubt ill buy Godfather 2 as from what ive read its utter shite. I enjoyed the first one but the stuff they've added just doesn't appeal to me, also it sounds nothing like the film.
Zen
I was thinking earlier on about an RTS-style gangster game - my friend referred me to this. Might have to give it a try.
bOnEs
QUOTE(Zen @ Apr 16 2009, 04:05 PM) [snapback]1496332[/snapback]
I was thinking earlier on about an RTS-style gangster game - my friend referred me to this. Might have to give it a try.

rent it and see what you think... the strategy isn't as in-depth as you would think but, it's still a challenge early in the game when your men aren't well equipped, or promoted... but, rent it and try it out... you might find, like myself, that there's actually a fun little game buried underneath all the so-so reviews...

i haven't beat it yet because, i am trying to get the platinum trophy so, i am having to tie up loose ends before i finish the story... i pry could of beaten this days ago but, i thought i'd add to the fun by trying to earn all the trophies...
Marney1

Godfather 2 Trailer
The first one was far too easy IMO so I'd have to rent this one out first before I buy.
[youtube]1ktWL_1rHK4[/youtube]
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 16 2009, 05:17 PM) [snapback]1496348[/snapback]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ktWL_1rHK4

Godfather 2 Trailer ^
The first one was far too easy IMO so I'd have to rent this one out first before I buy.

Ok, quick lesson for you marney1. When you have a youtube video, get the numbers/letters after the equal sign. Then copy those. Then go to your reply window on this site. Then click to your left where it says "Insert: Youtube" then enter that letter/number combo. Poof. No more fucking links. You can post the actual video.

You fucking noob.

Also, a friend of mine has purchased this and I will be borrowing it soon.
TwoFacedTanner
Ah man.

I bought this game. I loved it for a while.
Took over just about everything. All that assbustage was for nothing, because you lose everything about mid story.
Cuba seems tacked on because, much like NYC, you can run across it in no time.
Florida is nice, but c'mon, when is it not? You can't go on the beach though. Because you can't swim, and on top of that there is no animation to drowning, and the water is just...its not water. If you throw someone in it they fall through it into oblivion.
After playing games like COD4, GTA4, and other more realistic games, shooting people gets annoying when it takes two drum rounds from a Thompson SMG to kill someone(who isnt a made guy).
I haven't beat it yet, and I don't know if I will. I've hit the part in the story where I have to take over everything. Which means I'll have to get the stupid ass bulletproof vests and the gun belts.
So I said "fuck it". And let my cousin borrow it.

Other things bother me, like the fact I have an open spot in the family, but every time I talk to a candidate, Dominic says "Sorry, Family's full" Scuse me what? No it isnt.

Other than that, the whole made men thing is pretty sweet. I have three that I got attached to and the go with me everywhere. My Underboss "Bill Bardi" who you recruit early in the game. And my Capos Johnny Rizzo and Leon...ah forgot his last name, it starts with a P though.

You do feel like you're in the movies though, and thats a nice feeling. I kinda like how clothes don't cost anything, you just kinda have everything from the start.
And I like the fact that not every Italian in the game has black hair and brown eyes.
My dad is an Italian, his hair and eyes, much like mine, are Brown and blue. Which you actually see a lot of in the game, I thought that was cool.

Killing made men is....kinda lame. You can order death of your made me, but other than using the Enforcer to get a stealth kill on him, I'm always the one who has to kill him. I wish you could send other made guys to kill the marked ones.

I know that bounced around a little, but in closing.
I don't recommend buying this game. Rent it, and if you REALLY like it...then go buy it.
It ain't bad, but if you played the first one, the second one is just an updated version.
Physics are still the same. In the age of ragdoll and euphoria, this game still uses, for he most part, scripted death animations. (i.e. someone falling to their knees).

So yeah, rent.

I give it a personal 6/10
Marney1
QUOTE(TwoFacedTanner @ Apr 24 2009, 06:54 PM) [snapback]1498406[/snapback]
Ah man.

I bought this game. I loved it for a while.
Took over just about everything. All that assbustage was for nothing, because you lose everything about mid story.
Cuba seems tacked on because, much like NYC, you can run across it in no time.
Florida is nice, but c'mon, when is it not? You can't go on the beach though. Because you can't swim, and on top of that there is no animation to drowning, and the water is just...its not water. If you throw someone in it they fall through it into oblivion.
After playing games like COD4, GTA4, and other more realistic games, shooting people gets annoying when it takes two drum rounds from a Thompson SMG to kill someone(who isnt a made guy).
I haven't beat it yet, and I don't know if I will. I've hit the part in the story where I have to take over everything. Which means I'll have to get the stupid ass bulletproof vests and the gun belts.
So I said "fuck it". And let my cousin borrow it.

Other things bother me, like the fact I have an open spot in the family, but every time I talk to a candidate, Dominic says "Sorry, Family's full" Scuse me what? No it isnt.

Other than that, the whole made men thing is pretty sweet. I have three that I got attached to and the go with me everywhere. My Underboss "Bill Bardi" who you recruit early in the game. And my Capos Johnny Rizzo and Leon...ah forgot his last name, it starts with a P though.

You do feel like you're in the movies though, and thats a nice feeling. I kinda like how clothes don't cost anything, you just kinda have everything from the start.
And I like the fact that not every Italian in the game has black hair and brown eyes.
My dad is an Italian, his hair and eyes, much like mine, are Brown and blue. Which you actually see a lot of in the game, I thought that was cool.

Killing made men is....kinda lame. You can order death of your made me, but other than using the Enforcer to get a stealth kill on him, I'm always the one who has to kill him. I wish you could send other made guys to kill the marked ones.

I know that bounced around a little, but in closing.
I don't recommend buying this game. Rent it, and if you REALLY like it...then go buy it.
It ain't bad, but if you played the first one, the second one is just an updated version.
Physics are still the same. In the age of ragdoll and euphoria, this game still uses, for he most part, scripted death animations. (i.e. someone falling to their knees).

So yeah, rent.

I give it a personal 6/10


I don't think I'll even bother to rent it after reading that review. ^
bOnEs
good review tanner... i agree with a lot of your points...

one way to eliminate your made men without you physically doing so is to mark em for death, then send them off to try and take a racket for you... if he dies, he dies... or push him to the ground when you have a couple of your men around you... they'll all start to gang up on him, sometimes bringing about funny remarks... i once threw one of them off a building... that was a cool way to go...

the reason why the family is full is because, you can only recruit soldiers... you can't recruit someone to be a capo, although if you plan on making him one, you have to start him out as a soldier first... you can only recruit until you filled up your 4 soldier slots... if you want more, your gonna have to promote one of them...

one the water: i never saw anything fall through... lol, when i threw a bomb in the water, i hit the surface like it was concrete... stayed there and blew up as if it was on solid ground... lol, the water looked tacky but then again, how often did you look at the water? maybe a handful of times throughout?

and the shooting part: it's arcadish, as is the driving and physics... the game resembles very much an old playstation shooter... it's not realistic because apparently, that wasn't the direction they wanted to go with it... they weren't going for realism... they were going for the old san andreas feel... i do like the targeting system though, its one of the better ones... the ability to shoot em in the knees to drop em to their knees, or the ability to shoot em in the shoulder to make em drop their gun... and man, the executions were fun!!

i did beat this game monday... and got a platinum trophy to boot... easily one of the easiest platinum trophies i'll pry ever earn...
TwoFacedTanner
QUOTE(bOnEs @ Apr 24 2009, 01:56 PM) [snapback]1498422[/snapback]
the reason why the family is full is because, you can only recruit soldiers... you can't recruit someone to be a capo, although if you plan on making him one, you have to start him out as a soldier first... you can only recruit until you filled up your 4 soldier slots... if you want more, your gonna have to promote one of them...


I know how the family works haha, remember there is like 10000 videos you have to watch during the game.

Here is my tree.



Yet the family is still full.

tsk tsk.

And for shits and giggles, heres my crew.



And yes, I'm aware I said my cousin was borrowing it. I happened to look over and see it on my dresser. I guess he didn't come get it.

Anyway, would like to point out something about the made men.
Instead of when you kill them and they stay dead, when you kill them, they respawn again at the place you recruited them.

GAAAAAYYY. Im sorry. This game has just gone from shit to shittier.

I know like you said Bones, they aren't going for realism, but for fucks sake they should. I want a brutal Mafia game damnit! angry.gif

bOnEs
then fucking wait for mafia 2 then!! laugh.gif...

if i took a picture of my crew, they all would look the same... the bulletproof vests cover up anything they are wearing, which is GAY... couldn't they put the vest underneath their shirts?! why does it have to be over the clothes so when my don speaks to michael, he's wearing a fucking bullet-proof vest... gheesh...

i'll have to take a pic of my dominic though... he looks like a don biggrin.gif... maybe i'll blow up one of my diamond factories so i can get rid of that damn vest for the photo biggrin.gif...
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