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mjw911
everyone has noticed that there are absolutly no children in gta. BUT, there are old people. isnt having old people in gta just as bad as children? which is worse: shooting or beating up a little kid or shooting or beating up an old person? so in my opinion if gta is ganna put old people in, they should put kids in as well. your thoughts?
Pieface
Young Kids, because technically Old People are still adults.

If they put young kids in, they should just say hello to lawsuits.
Massacre
Old people belong in GTA. They're going to die soon, anyway, we might as well help them along...
PabloHoneyOle
I wish you could break old people's fucking hips and just leave them lyinig on the street.
TreeFitty
Kids and pets: Things that have had a hundred topics and conclude with "lawsuit".


Most of those old people are angry anyway. The kind of old people that bitch about kids playing in front of their house.
WHERE_IS_MIANUS
QUOTE(mjw911 @ Feb 19 2009, 06:07 PM) [snapback]1485255[/snapback]
everyone has noticed that there are absolutly no children in gta. BUT, there are old people. isnt having old people in gta just as bad as children? which is worse: shooting or beating up a little kid or shooting or beating up an old person? so in my opinion if gta is ganna put old people in, they should put kids in as well. your thoughts?


The reason why there's no kids and animals in the GTA games is because it would cause thousands or millions of complaints where sick players go killing kids and animals for fun. It would be bad enough if they get killed by accident. As a rule for me, I never go killing women in these games. I hate it if I have by accident or when I have to. It is probably why Rockstar removed the female cops. Gunning down women in my book is also in bad taste but it's worse if a kid or an animal is in the line of fire.

I remember when Rockstar added a child cematary in GTA: SA in San Fierro. All the dead were eight-year-old kids and I wondered why the fuck they put that in. I also remember the sick radio commercials in all the GTA games and in GTA: SA, there's one about kids killing their parents and another GTA game there's another sick radio commercial about parents getting fed-up with their kids and killing them. Rockstar should have been sued over that. The same applies to why there's a cheat in GTA 4 where Niko can try and visit a child porn site and the player that uses that cheat gets a five-wanted-star level. That was found by accident by somebody and it was on the British news last year. Why did Rockstar allow that sick shit? It's a fucking downpour.

I remember another game that Rockstar made that hit the news. I can't remember the title of the game but it involved teens getting gunned down in a church and a lot of religious people found that so offensive Rockstar ended-up court and they were ordered to edit that mission from the game or else...

I do wonder what is wrong with the people working at Rockstar. Not only do they fuck-up with glitches but they sound sick people to me that want to hint their ways of life.


Massacre
Where did this come from, all this bullshit you're spouting off? What are you talking about?
WHERE_IS_MIANUS
QUOTE(Massacre @ Feb 20 2009, 02:14 AM) [snapback]1485416[/snapback]
Where did this come from, all this bullshit you're spouting off? What are you talking about?


I hope you never addressed that to me because I spoke facts. You should use the Quote option so that others know who is replying to who. I'm not having a pop at you, for all I know you are replying to the one that created this Thread. I was only saying it's best to use the Quote option to make it clear who you're replying to.
Massacre
I was definitely referring to you. I may have been a bit rude by using the term "bullshit," and I apologize for that, but your "facts" are most certainly mistaken.

You mentioned a child cemetary because of the cemetary in San Andreas with tombstones listing their corresponding corpses as being eight years old (it's actually seven), but you clearly didn't read the entire tombstone, as they all read "opposition," implying that every open-world GTA clone has "died" when competing against GTA in the seven years since the release of the original GTA (as of 2004).

As for your mention of the "sick" radio commercials and disgust for killing in-game women, that's simply your personal oversensitivity and apparent inability to abandon your (honestly) sensible real life ethics while playing a game that has no impact on your real life. Shooting an imaginary woman in a video game does not make you a bad person. Also, the fact that you think Rockstar should have been sued for the integration of the commercials in the game (which simply parody real life acts made by morons in the real world) is stupid.

There is no "cheat" that brings you to a child porn site, it can be accessed at any time on the in-game web browser and the site consists of the Liberty City Police Department seal and a warning that your IP address has been logged, there are no photos, and you get five stars for visiting it, which also parodies real life idiots who have been arrested for viewing child pornography. There is nothing "sick" about it, and you are never required to visit it in the game.

Finally, considering that the only Rockstar game featuring teenagers was Bully, which includes no guns of any kind, your alleged issue with teens being gunned down in a church is either fabricated from your imagination or you have confused it with Jack Thompson's sarcastically proposed "murder simulator," which included various acts of violence that Thompson had taken out of context, much as you have done here. If you can provide me with evidence of this alleged game and corresponding lawsuit, I will gladly retract this portion of my response.

Everything said here aside, the fact of the matter is that Grand Theft Auto is simply a game, nothing more, and if you are truly offended by the events that take place in a fictional story, then you are no better than the recently disbarred Jack Thompson.
Heartless
My two cents for free: Fallout/BG1&2+Expansions/Every D&D Based Computer RPG/Dozens of other RPGs on the market, all have various amounts of child killing. Fallout 2 even had it as a special reward, as you can become a child killer. And I haven't read anywhere that they were sued for it. Really, how do you sue someone for something you don't like anyways?
mjw911
QUOTE(WHERE_IS_MIANUS @ Feb 19 2009, 06:08 PM) [snapback]1485409[/snapback]
QUOTE(mjw911 @ Feb 19 2009, 06:07 PM) [snapback]1485255[/snapback]
everyone has noticed that there are absolutly no children in gta. BUT, there are old people. isnt having old people in gta just as bad as children? which is worse: shooting or beating up a little kid or shooting or beating up an old person? so in my opinion if gta is ganna put old people in, they should put kids in as well. your thoughts?


The reason why there's no kids and animals in the GTA games is because it would cause thousands or millions of complaints where sick players go killing kids and animals for fun. It would be bad enough if they get killed by accident. As a rule for me, I never go killing women in these games. I hate it if I have by accident or when I have to. It is probably why Rockstar removed the female cops. Gunning down women in my book is also in bad taste but it's worse if a kid or an animal is in the line of fire.

I remember when Rockstar added a child cematary in GTA: SA in San Fierro. All the dead were eight-year-old kids and I wondered why the fuck they put that in. I also remember the sick radio commercials in all the GTA games and in GTA: SA, there's one about kids killing their parents and another GTA game there's another sick radio commercial about parents getting fed-up with their kids and killing them. Rockstar should have been sued over that. The same applies to why there's a cheat in GTA 4 where Niko can try and visit a child porn site and the player that uses that cheat gets a five-wanted-star level. That was found by accident by somebody and it was on the British news last year. Why did Rockstar allow that sick shit? It's a fucking downpour.

I remember another game that Rockstar made that hit the news. I can't remember the title of the game but it involved teens getting gunned down in a church and a lot of religious people found that so offensive Rockstar ended-up court and they were ordered to edit that mission from the game or else...

I do wonder what is wrong with the people working at Rockstar. Not only do they fuck-up with glitches but they sound sick people to me that want to hint their ways of life.



dude, its rockstar, they do sick stuff like that. you shouldnt be surprised. you gatta get some sort of sense of humor about stuff like that. its a fucking video game
neko_ceko
I would like to blow up a school bus full of children in GTA...
Just for teh lulz.
Mohawk
QUOTE(Massacre @ Feb 19 2009, 08:03 PM) [snapback]1485464[/snapback]
I was definitely referring to you. I may have been a bit rude by using the term "bullshit," and I apologize for that, but your "facts" are most certainly mistaken.

You mentioned a child cemetary because of the cemetary in San Adreas with tombstones listing their corresponding corpses as being eight years old (it's actually seven), but you clearly didn't read the entire tombstone, as they all read "opposition," implying that every open-world GTA clone has "died" when competing against GTA in the seven years since the release of the original GTA (as of 2004).

As for your mention of the "sick" radio commercials and disgust for killing in-game women, that's simply your personal oversensitivity and apparent inability to abandon your (honestly) sensible real life ethics while playing a game that has no impact on your real life. Shooting an imaginary woman in a video game does not make you a bad person. Also, the fact that you think Rockstar should have been sued for the integration of the commercials in the game (which simply parody real life acts made by morons in the real world) is stupid.

There is no "cheat" that brings you to a child porn site, it can be accessed at any time on the in-game web browser and the site consists of the Liberty City Police Department seal and a warning that your IP address has been logged, there are no photos, and you get five stars for visiting it, which also parodies real life idiots who have been arrested for viewing child pornography. There is nothing "sick" about it, and you are never required to visit it in the game.

Finally, considering that the only Rockstar game featuring teenagers was Bully, which includes no guns of any kind, your alleged issue with teens being gunned down in a church is either fabricated from your imagination or you have confused it with Jack Thompson's sarcastically proposed "murder simulator," which included various acts of violence that Thompson had taken out of context, much as you have done here. If you can provide me with evidence of this alleged game and corresponding lawsuit, I will gladly retract this portion of my response.

Everything said here aside, the fact of the matter is that Grand Theft Auto is simply a game, nothing more, and if you are truly offended by the events that take place in a fictional story, then you are no better than the recently disbarred Jack Thompson.

Thanks!
I think you made him put his tail b/w his legs and walk away =D
Massacre
You're welcome. laugh.gif I'm kind of disappointed he hasn't responded, I'll never run out of things to say on the subject. I went all through high school defending video games. If I could make a living being a video game activist, I would. Thank you for your support, citizen.
mjw911
QUOTE(Massacre @ Feb 20 2009, 03:13 PM) [snapback]1485701[/snapback]
You're welcome. laugh.gif I'm kind of disappointed he hasn't responded, I'll never run out of things to say on the subject. I went all through high school defending video games. If I could make a living being a video game activist, I would. Thank you for your support, citizen.



massacre just owned that guy haha! nice one notworthy.gif
Massacre
Thank you, too. salute.gif
WHERE_IS_MIANUS
QUOTE(mjw911 @ Feb 19 2009, 06:07 PM) [snapback]1485255[/snapback]
everyone has noticed that there are absolutly no children in gta. BUT, there are old people. isnt having old people in gta just as bad as children? which is worse: shooting or beating up a little kid or shooting or beating up an old person? so in my opinion if gta is ganna put old people in, they should put kids in as well. your thoughts?


I know what you mean. First, I don't want kids or even animals in the games. I think old people should never have been put in these games. As you know, old people are as weak as kids.


What else annoys me is why Rockstar programmed the paramedics to mostly save men and not women as much. I noticed this in the other GTA games. Either the paramedics are too late to save the women or they never turned-up at all. They are always there for the men. Some women where saved. I could kill a male scumbag and the paramedics couldn't wait to help him but when something happens to a woman the paramedics mostly leave them for dead where they are either too late or not bothered to help. I find that so fucking sexist. Have Rockstar got something against women? They are fucking scum. As a rule I never kill a woman unless I have to. I hate it when I kill a woman by accident.
TreeFitty
^From now on I will be reading your posts in the voice of Mr. Garrison.

If you are so distraught over stupid little things like "sexist" paramedics, you might as well get a refund for your copy of GTA4. Seriously kid, if that is the kind of thing that bugs you, GTA is not the game for you.
mjw911
QUOTE(TreeFitty @ Feb 20 2009, 08:03 PM) [snapback]1485802[/snapback]
^From now on I will be reading your posts in the voice of Mr. Garrison.

If you are so distraught over stupid little things like "sexist" paramedics, you might as well get a refund for your copy of GTA4. Seriously kid, if that is the kind of thing that bugs you, GTA is not the game for you.



yeah i gatta agree with TreeFitty. dont play the game that you bitch about
Heartless
QUOTE(mjw911 @ Feb 20 2009, 06:54 PM) [snapback]1485710[/snapback]
QUOTE(Massacre @ Feb 20 2009, 03:13 PM) [snapback]1485701[/snapback]
You're welcome. laugh.gif I'm kind of disappointed he hasn't responded, I'll never run out of things to say on the subject. I went all through high school defending video games. If I could make a living being a video game activist, I would. Thank you for your support, citizen.



massacre just owned that guy haha! nice one notworthy.gif


Hence, the name.
neko_ceko
QUOTE(WHERE_IS_MIANUS @ Feb 21 2009, 03:31 AM) [snapback]1485777[/snapback]
What else annoys me is why Rockstar programmed the paramedics to mostly save men and not women as much. I noticed this in the other GTA games. Either the paramedics are too late to save the women or they never turned-up at all. They are always there for the men. Some women where saved. I could kill a male scumbag and the paramedics couldn't wait to help him but when something happens to a woman the paramedics mostly leave them for dead where they are either too late or not bothered to help. I find that so fucking sexist. Have Rockstar got something against women? They are fucking scum. As a rule I never kill a woman unless I have to. I hate it when I kill a woman by accident.

How the FUCK did you noticed that
Full Metal Monkey
QUOTE
What else annoys me is why Rockstar programmed the paramedics to mostly save men and not women as much.
I don't think it was intentional.

QUOTE

Have Rockstar got something against women? They are fucking scum. As a rule I never kill a woman unless I have to.


I don't think they have anything against women. And if you think their 'fucking scum' why do you buy their games knowing that women are going to be in it and you have every right and ability to kill them?

QUOTE
I hate it when I kill a woman by accident.


Thats a good moral to have but you have to remember this is only a video game. I've had this arguement alot with people in the past (mostly girls ill add) that doing all this criminal stuff in a game is a good thing as it takes away the temptation to do so in real life. Obviously there are some people who don't realise this (Columbine etc) but thats a small majority of people.
neko_ceko
QUOTE
I hate it when I kill a woman by accident.

Well then, if you hate it when you kill a woman by accident, but you don't hate it when you kill a man by accident, that makes you a sexist too, not rockstar.

So yeah..


1UP
QUOTE(neko_ceko @ Feb 21 2009, 06:10 PM) [snapback]1485946[/snapback]
QUOTE
I hate it when I kill a woman by accident.

Well then, if you hate it when you kill a woman by accident, but you don't hate it when you kill a man by accident, that makes you a sexist too, not rockstar.

So yeah..

Ha, I was so gonna say that too. lol




I'd just like to say animals are different from kids, plenty of games have animals you can kill, believe it or not there are a few M rated games out there where you can kill kids, tho they are usually zombified.

Long story short GTA gets more attention then those games, the trouble isn't worth it, it is not breaking the law if they add them, but they obviously will get attention and attempted sueings... Lastly, Rockstar have said it's distasteful to them to have children in GTA. This goes all the way back to Q & A's about San Andreas.
mjw911
QUOTE(WHERE_IS_MIANUS @ Feb 20 2009, 06:31 PM) [snapback]1485777[/snapback]
QUOTE(mjw911 @ Feb 19 2009, 06:07 PM) [snapback]1485255[/snapback]
everyone has noticed that there are absolutly no children in gta. BUT, there are old people. isnt having old people in gta just as bad as children? which is worse: shooting or beating up a little kid or shooting or beating up an old person? so in my opinion if gta is ganna put old people in, they should put kids in as well. your thoughts?


I know what you mean. First, I don't want kids or even animals in the games. I think old people should never have been put in these games. As you know, old people are as weak as kids.


What else annoys me is why Rockstar programmed the paramedics to mostly save men and not women as much. I noticed this in the other GTA games. Either the paramedics are too late to save the women or they never turned-up at all. They are always there for the men. Some women where saved. I could kill a male scumbag and the paramedics couldn't wait to help him but when something happens to a woman the paramedics mostly leave them for dead where they are either too late or not bothered to help. I find that so fucking sexist. Have Rockstar got something against women? They are fucking scum. As a rule I never kill a woman unless I have to. I hate it when I kill a woman by accident.


that makes absolutely no sense. rockstar didnt program the paramedics to save more men than women. i don't think your brain is working correctly
Behrooz Moosavi
hey guys, i can't see any reason for all these conversations. if the society concerns about the games that may put the ppl in a condition that they may go out on the streets an start shootin' each other, it should think of findin a way to make the ppl's personalities so stable that they won't be affected by a simple GAME and realize that this is just a game... it's so simple... this is an excuse for the governments an societies to put all their blame on . like in the movie "Bowling for columbine", as u have noticed the interview with marilyn manson. he says the society put the blame on me. ppl killin each other and they say it's cause of the manson's music. that's bullshit. any way i enjoy watchin' and doin' the things that i can't do in the real life. if it wasn't for this why the movies and the games would be so interesting?
coreyko_2003
QUOTE(WHERE_IS_MIANUS @ Feb 19 2009, 08:08 PM) [snapback]1485409[/snapback]
QUOTE(mjw911 @ Feb 19 2009, 06:07 PM) [snapback]1485255[/snapback]
everyone has noticed that there are absolutly no children in gta. BUT, there are old people. isnt having old people in gta just as bad as children? which is worse: shooting or beating up a little kid or shooting or beating up an old person? so in my opinion if gta is ganna put old people in, they should put kids in as well. your thoughts?


The reason why there's no kids and animals in the GTA games is because it would cause thousands or millions of complaints where sick players go killing kids and animals for fun. It would be bad enough if they get killed by accident. As a rule for me, I never go killing women in these games. I hate it if I have by accident or when I have to. It is probably why Rockstar removed the female cops. Gunning down women in my book is also in bad taste but it's worse if a kid or an animal is in the line of fire.

I remember when Rockstar added a child cematary in GTA: SA in San Fierro. All the dead were eight-year-old kids and I wondered why the fuck they put that in. I also remember the sick radio commercials in all the GTA games and in GTA: SA, there's one about kids killing their parents and another GTA game there's another sick radio commercial about parents getting fed-up with their kids and killing them. Rockstar should have been sued over that. The same applies to why there's a cheat in GTA 4 where Niko can try and visit a child porn site and the player that uses that cheat gets a five-wanted-star level. That was found by accident by somebody and it was on the British news last year. Why did Rockstar allow that sick shit? It's a fucking downpour.

I remember another game that Rockstar made that hit the news. I can't remember the title of the game but it involved teens getting gunned down in a church and a lot of religious people found that so offensive Rockstar ended-up court and they were ordered to edit that mission from the game or else...

I do wonder what is wrong with the people working at Rockstar. Not only do they fuck-up with glitches but they sound sick people to me that want to hint their ways of life.


For fuck sake, its just a damn game.
trathen93
I don't believe people are arguing about this, I mean they're not real people they're just made up of many different codes in the game. if you feel like kids are needed in the game then you could always look for a mod on the pc version.
the exact reason why theres no kids in the game is probably for something like this, they dont want to upset some people by the addition and dont want to cause more controversy
PabloHoneyOle
QUOTE(trathen @ Apr 16 2009, 07:30 AM) [snapback]1496181[/snapback]
I don't believe people are arguing about this, I mean they're not real people they're just made up of many different codes in the game. if you feel like kids are needed in the game then you could always look for a mod on the pc version.
the exact reason why theres no kids in the game is probably for something like this, they dont want to upset some people by the addition and dont want to cause more controversy

I had been thinking about this for the past month and a half and I'm glad you decided to bring up this point.
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