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Skinny†
Take this quiz and find out.
as for me;



Purple ftw
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
I did this yesterday, coincidentally enough.

-7.23, -5.88.
Hardcore Ottoman
Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05
PabloHoneyOle
Where do YOU stand in the political rectum?

Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

Of all the famous people they had on there, I was closer to Gandi.

Quote: "Possessing marijuana for personal use should not be a criminal offence." Strongly Agree
Skinny†
It's funny... so far I am the furthest right person in this topic. smile.gif
GLC
Economic Left/Right: -3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.13





Right near Gandhi. smile.gif
Un-Amurikan Bastage
Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36

Right by Gandhi as well smile.gif
Juice
Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.92
Skinny†
I never wopuld have guessed that I am the most conservative on this board. Oo
psychÝ



Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.79

That is just because being a biologist and an economist cancel themselves out on there scale.
Handsome B Wonderful
QUOTE(Skinny. @ Oct 26 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]1469760[/snapback]
I never wopuld have guessed that I am the most conservative on this board. Oo

Bloody unlikely. Besides, it's a multiple choice test. Hitler and Stalin didn't take no damn fancy smancy multiple choice tests.

Anyway, my results.

Economic Left/Right: -0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.82

Pretty much the same as when i did this a few years back, although i've moved further right.

"Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population."
I assume that question pushes your total to the left if you agree? Tis the interwebs. Nobody's going to disagree with that.
bOnEs
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i'm in the same green square as the dalai llama and gandhi... makes sense to me...
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
No one left wing in this topic? Speak up kamarats.
Skinny†
QUOTE(Handsome B. Wonderful @ Oct 28 2008, 01:20 AM) [snapback]1469888[/snapback]
"Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population."
I assume that question pushes your total to the left if you agree? Tis the interwebs. Nobody's going to disagree with that.

Nope, only economic questions push you further left/right. Agreeing with that question would make you more libertarian.

Hey, I'm also the most libertarian in this topic aswell. Jumpy.gif
bOnEs
QUOTE(Skinny. @ Oct 27 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]1469984[/snapback]
QUOTE(Handsome B. Wonderful @ Oct 28 2008, 01:20 AM) [snapback]1469888[/snapback]
"Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population."
I assume that question pushes your total to the left if you agree? Tis the interwebs. Nobody's going to disagree with that.

Nope, only economic questions push you further left/right. Agreeing with that question would make you more libertarian.

Hey, I'm also the most libertarian in this topic aswell. Jumpy.gif

i thought i was pretty libertarian myself... i still think i am because, i don't think an internet poll is gonna be THAT accurate anyways... but, it is a decent gauge, that's for sure...
Skinny†
QUOTE(turd burglar @ Oct 29 2008, 03:33 AM) [snapback]1470031[/snapback]
QUOTE(Skinny. @ Oct 27 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]1469984[/snapback]
QUOTE(Handsome B. Wonderful @ Oct 28 2008, 01:20 AM) [snapback]1469888[/snapback]
"Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population."
I assume that question pushes your total to the left if you agree? Tis the interwebs. Nobody's going to disagree with that.

Nope, only economic questions push you further left/right. Agreeing with that question would make you more libertarian.

Hey, I'm also the most libertarian in this topic aswell. Jumpy.gif

i thought i was pretty libertarian myself... i still think i am because, i don't think an internet poll is gonna be THAT accurate anyways... but, it is a decent gauge, that's for sure...

You are in a funny place for a Ron Paul supporter. Oo
Mattay
QUOTE(Skinny. @ Oct 26 2008, 03:13 AM) [snapback]1469760[/snapback]
I never wopuld have guessed that I am the most conservative on this board. Oo

You were a hardcore liberal I thought.

Hardcore Ottoman
Pssh, political spectra change all of the time. Libertarian may be too conservative in 100 years.
Skinny†
QUOTE(SOADdict @ Oct 31 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]1470346[/snapback]
Pssh, political spectra change all of the time. Libertarian may be too conservative in 100 years.

Libertarian is fiscally conservative.

Conservative is an oxymoron.... how on earth do they expect low taxes, low spending and advocate personal responsibility, when they want porn and drugs to be illegal?
Screw Loose
Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.15

Close to Ghandi as well

Skinny, i guess economically your right, but socially you're as libertarian as any of us
Skinny†
QUOTE(Screw Loose @ Nov 1 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]1470446[/snapback]
Skinny, i guess economically your right, but socially you're as libertarian as any of us

Libertarian and liberal aren't two diffrent ideologies. Liberals are for free personal lives, but regulated economies, while conservatives are the other way around. Take the most radical social liberal, and the most extreme fiscal conservative, smash the mtogether, and you have a libertarian.
P-nut
did this little test again... seems I've gotten a bit more left-wing since I last took it.. then again, in the mean time I've read up on marx (and other economic philosophers, like adam smith, keynes, thorstein veblen etc.) that might explain it.

my score:

Economic Left/Right: -9.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.69
Skinny†
QUOTE(P-nut @ Dec 28 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]1476911[/snapback]
did this little test again... seems I've gotten a bit more left-wing since I last took it.. then again, in the mean time I've read up on marx (and other economic philosophers, like adam smith, keynes, thorstein veblen etc.) that might explain it.

They are economic philosophers. Economics ain't phiolosophy; it's systemetic, purely. Their theories are reffered to as philosophy, simply because they sound good on paper, but anyone who knows bugger all about finance, can tell you it's all crap. Read up on some proper professors of economics, ie Ludwing Von Mises, Milton Friedman (who won the Nobel Prize for economics in 1976), Murray Rothbard or Peter Schiff (who predicted the current crisis back in 2006).
P-nut
QUOTE(Skinny. @ Dec 28 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]1476914[/snapback]
QUOTE(P-nut @ Dec 28 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]1476911[/snapback]
did this little test again... seems I've gotten a bit more left-wing since I last took it.. then again, in the mean time I've read up on marx (and other economic philosophers, like adam smith, keynes, thorstein veblen etc.) that might explain it.

They are economic philosophers. Economics ain't phiolosophy; it's systemetic, purely. Their theories are reffered to as philosophy, simply because they sound good on paper, but anyone who knows bugger all about finance, can tell you it's all crap. Read up on some proper professors of economics, ie Ludwing Von Mises, Milton Friedman (who won the Nobel Prize for economics in 1976), Murray Rothbard or Peter Schiff (who predicted the current crisis back in 2006).

every economic system has a philosophy behind it. reading up on this explains many viewpoints of people who dont get along with my state of mind, hell, even explains to me why we live in the system we have today.

read this book. it's about the great economic thinkers/philsophers. Anyone who knows bugger all about finance can tell me it's all crap? Then why is this book used in alot of academic schooling?
Skinny†
QUOTE(P-nut @ Dec 28 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]1476916[/snapback]
every economic system has a philosophy behind it.

To an extent, but not when the entire system is synonymous with the idea that the working class should rie up; despite the clear unrealisticness of it.

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reading up on this explains many viewpoints of people who dont get along with my state of mind
Didn't you just said reading up about Marx turned you further left?

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read this book. it's about the great economic thinkers/philsophers. Anyone who knows bugger all about finance can tell me it's all crap? Then why is this book used in alot of academic schooling?

Of course it's used in schooling, the same way books by Hitler are, that doesn't mean the academic world advocates what he did. Their ideas may be used in schooling, that doesn't mean their ideas hold any relevance to reality. The last century has clearly shown us that what they want hasn't worked.
Donnie
Back in my youth, i was far left wing and anti-authoritarian. But these days I dont think my cynacism and sarcasm can be accounted for on the poltical spectrum.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
QUOTE(Skinny. @ Dec 28 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]1476914[/snapback]
QUOTE(P-nut @ Dec 28 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]1476911[/snapback]
did this little test again... seems I've gotten a bit more left-wing since I last took it.. then again, in the mean time I've read up on marx (and other economic philosophers, like adam smith, keynes, thorstein veblen etc.) that might explain it.

They are economic philosophers. Economics ain't phiolosophy; it's systemetic, purely. Their theories are reffered to as philosophy, simply because they sound good on paper, but anyone who knows bugger all about finance, can tell you it's all crap. Read up on some proper professors of economics, ie Ludwing Von Mises, Milton Friedman (who won the Nobel Prize for economics in 1976), Murray Rothbard or Peter Schiff (who predicted the current crisis back in 2006).
Did you actually just say Adam Smith and John Maynard-Keynes know bugger all about finance -.-
Qdeathstar
Keynes and smith were not philosophers, they were theorists. There's a huge difference.

Most of their theories make up western economic policy.... for example, Keynes main contribution is that if you increase money supply, you decrease the value of money, which causes money to be worth less and have a lower rate of return and capital to obtain (in comparison) a higher rate of return, which increases investment (and spending).

Thats exactly what the federal reserve is attempting to do right now (printing a lot of money and lowering the interest rates on holding money)...

Economic Left/Right: 2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.74
P-nut
QUOTE(Skinny. @ Dec 29 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]1477046[/snapback]
QUOTE(P-nut @ Dec 28 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]1476916[/snapback]
every economic system has a philosophy behind it.

To an extent, but not when the entire system is synonymous with the idea that the working class should rie up; despite the clear unrealisticness of it.

What is your point? You said economics has nothing to do with philsophy but I meant all economic system have a certain philsophy behind it... especially the one you just referenced to.

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reading up on this explains many viewpoints of people who dont get along with my state of mind
Didn't you just said reading up about Marx turned you further left?

Reading up on marxism is not the only thing I've looked into; as a matter of fact it was only a small chapter in the book. It were especially the chapters on the other great economic thinkers (Heilbronner calls em wordly philsophers) that broadened my "econmic horizon" so to say. I understand better now why things happen the way they go, but at the same time, well, made me see the whole absurdism of the whole economic and monetairian system which calls in reality of course for a better alternative to pure marxism; however, the fact I'm maybe more left winged then I was before doesnt mean I have less understanding, sympathy even for people who have a totally different standing then me.

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read this book. it's about the great economic thinkers/philsophers. Anyone who knows bugger all about finance can tell me it's all crap? Then why is this book used in alot of academic schooling?

Of course it's used in schooling, the same way books by Hitler are, that doesn't mean the academic world advocates what he did. Their ideas may be used in schooling, that doesn't mean their ideas hold any relevance to reality. The last century has clearly shown us that what they want hasn't worked.

I think about every self-respecting expert on economics will totally disagree with you... and by the way this book is about thinkers in such a broad spectrum it's totally incomparable to a book like mein kampf.


QUOTE(Seether.)
Keynes and smith were not philosophers, they were theorists. There's a huge difference.

true, not philsophers in the sence of the classical meaning of the word. I'd say they were economic philsophers which is exactly the same as economic theorists who theorise on a global scale.



QUOTE(Donnie)
Back in my youth, i was far left wing and anti-authoritarian. But these days I dont think my cynacism and sarcasm can be accounted for on the poltical spectrum.

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Qdeathstar
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QUOTE(Seether.)
Keynes and smith were not philosophers, they were theorists. There's a huge difference.

true, not philsophers in the sence of the classical meaning of the word. I'd say they were economic philsophers which is exactly the same as economic theorists who theorise on a global scale.

yeah, that response was a whole lot of nothing.
Skinny†
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Dec 31 2008, 02:45 AM) [snapback]1477160[/snapback]
QUOTE(Skinny. @ Dec 28 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]1476914[/snapback]
QUOTE(P-nut @ Dec 28 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]1476911[/snapback]
did this little test again... seems I've gotten a bit more left-wing since I last took it.. then again, in the mean time I've read up on marx (and other economic philosophers, like adam smith, keynes, thorstein veblen etc.) that might explain it.

They are economic philosophers. Economics ain't phiolosophy; it's systemetic, purely. Their theories are reffered to as philosophy, simply because they sound good on paper, but anyone who knows bugger all about finance, can tell you it's all crap. Read up on some proper professors of economics, ie Ludwing Von Mises, Milton Friedman (who won the Nobel Prize for economics in 1976), Murray Rothbard or Peter Schiff (who predicted the current crisis back in 2006).
Did you actually just say Adam Smith and John Maynard-Keynes know bugger all about finance -.-

His ideas were utter failures. He may have had good theories, but that doesn't make them pluasible. Maybe "anyone who knows bugger all about finance can tell you it's all crap" was a bad way of putting it, I should have said "anyone who is realistic can tell you it's all crap". Interventionalism has failed.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
QUOTE(Seether @ Dec 30 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]1477189[/snapback]
Keynes and smith were not philosophers, they were theorists. There's a huge difference.

Most of their theories make up western economic policy.... for example, Keynes main contribution is that if you increase money supply, you decrease the value of money, which causes money to be worth less and have a lower rate of return and capital to obtain (in comparison) a higher rate of return, which increases investment (and spending).

Thats exactly what the federal reserve is attempting to do right now (printing a lot of money and lowering the interest rates on holding money)...

Economic Left/Right: 2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.74
Regardless of how you define what they did, I was replying to the implication in the post I quoted.


QUOTE(Skinny. @ Jan 1 2009, 08:29 AM) [snapback]1477347[/snapback]
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Dec 31 2008, 02:45 AM) [snapback]1477160[/snapback]
QUOTE(Skinny. @ Dec 28 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]1476914[/snapback]
QUOTE(P-nut @ Dec 28 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]1476911[/snapback]
did this little test again... seems I've gotten a bit more left-wing since I last took it.. then again, in the mean time I've read up on marx (and other economic philosophers, like adam smith, keynes, thorstein veblen etc.) that might explain it.

They are economic philosophers. Economics ain't phiolosophy; it's systemetic, purely. Their theories are reffered to as philosophy, simply because they sound good on paper, but anyone who knows bugger all about finance, can tell you it's all crap. Read up on some proper professors of economics, ie Ludwing Von Mises, Milton Friedman (who won the Nobel Prize for economics in 1976), Murray Rothbard or Peter Schiff (who predicted the current crisis back in 2006).
Did you actually just say Adam Smith and John Maynard-Keynes know bugger all about finance -.-

His ideas were utter failures. He may have had good theories, but that doesn't make them pluasible. Maybe "anyone who knows bugger all about finance can tell you it's all crap" was a bad way of putting it, I should have said "anyone who is realistic can tell you it's all crap". Interventionalism has failed.
Smith was the pioneer of laissez-faire capitalism. That is not intervention.
Indy
I do this test like every year and it's always about the same. Bang in the middle towards the bottom, so libertarian.
Skinny†
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Jan 5 2009, 05:54 AM) [snapback]1477652[/snapback]
Smith was the pioneer of laissez-faire capitalism. That is not intervention.

O_o How did I miss Smith in the initial post? The spontaneous rule guy. I'm not very familiar with his work, other than spontaneous rule, but I do follow let-do economics.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
At the time, LOOK WHAT LAISSEZ FAIRE HAS DONE.
Skinny†
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Jan 7 2009, 08:17 PM) [snapback]1477964[/snapback]
At the time, LOOK WHAT LAISSEZ FAIRE HAS DONE.

What has it done and when? I've yet to see laissez faire or any brand of austrian economic ANYWHERE. Although you probbaly think that society would collapse if the crooks in the capital, don't have complete dominance over every other crook in the land...
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
OK I'm not doing this. You're being ridiculous, you're using leading questions and you're weaselling around disingenuously, before I've even started to argue. I would've expected better.
Skinny†
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Jan 9 2009, 06:44 PM) [snapback]1478276[/snapback]
OK I'm not doing this. You're being ridiculous, you're using leading questions and you're weaselling around disingenuously, before I've even started to argue. I would've expected better.

In other words, you can't think of a section of the economy that requires further (sustainable) regulation or subsidies.
Ex-PS Fanboy
Ha I just did this in school

Apparently i'm a conservative.
Skinny†
QUOTE(PS FANBOY @ Jan 10 2009, 03:37 AM) [snapback]1478301[/snapback]
Ha I just did this in school

Apparently i'm a conservative.

Incase it wasn't clear, I thought I'd point out that Green = Liberal, Purple = Libertarian, Blue = Neoconservative, Red = Some kind of Nazi nut.
Ex-PS Fanboy
then i guess i'm blue
Marneyo Juano
purple, one square away from the middle on each side.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
QUOTE(Skinny. @ Jan 10 2009, 05:55 AM) [snapback]1478378[/snapback]
QUOTE(PS FANBOY @ Jan 10 2009, 03:37 AM) [snapback]1478301[/snapback]
Ha I just did this in school

Apparently i'm a conservative.

Incase it wasn't clear, I thought I'd point out that Green = Liberal, Purple = Libertarian, Blue = Neoconservative, Red = Some kind of Nazi nut.
I'm sure hitler was a mildly authoritarian planned economy specialist.
Skinny†
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Jan 25 2009, 07:47 AM) [snapback]1480525[/snapback]
QUOTE(Skinny. @ Jan 10 2009, 05:55 AM) [snapback]1478378[/snapback]
QUOTE(PS FANBOY @ Jan 10 2009, 03:37 AM) [snapback]1478301[/snapback]
Ha I just did this in school

Apparently i'm a conservative.

Incase it wasn't clear, I thought I'd point out that Green = Liberal, Purple = Libertarian, Blue = Neoconservative, Red = Some kind of Nazi nut.
I'm sure hitler was a mildly authoritarian planned economy specialist.

National socialism = military kenyenism in economics.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
My point is that it's unfair to lump moderateauthoritarian socialists with Hitler.
Skinny†
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Jan 29 2009, 12:58 AM) [snapback]1480963[/snapback]
My point is that it's unfair to lump moderateauthoritarian socialists with Hitler.

I dount anyone who is only moderately statist would be in the red...
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
Yes Hitler did not want the state to encroach on the rights of individuals, go Hitler.
Skinny†
QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Feb 2 2009, 06:29 AM) [snapback]1481379[/snapback]
Yes Hitler did not want the state to encroach on the rights of individuals, go Hitler.

Please try to make a coherent argument. I didn't say Hitler was an individualist - where did you get that? I said that anyone in the red is obviously alot more than a "moderate" authoritarian.
Ulster_Niko
Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.03
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