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DuPz0r
Ok, so i was thinking about making my own Computer, because it's just so much cheaper. I want it mostly for digital images and artwork, and the occasional gaming session, but gaming isn't important.

This is the setup i was thinking of, it's cheap, but seems pretty ok for what i'm using it for:

Asrock 4 Core Dual- SATA2 Sockets 775 Motherboard £32.60
Arianet 2GB PC2-6400 CL5 DDR Ram (2x1GB) £21.95
Intel Celeron D336 2.8GHZ 755 OEM CPU £22.95
Thermaltake TR2 RX 450W Modular PSU £29.17
Asus ATi Radeon HD 3650 512MB PCI-E £46.95
500GB Sata2 16MB - 7200RPM £38.50
MIDI Tower with LED lit Fan and bubble strip, Large case £30.49

Total Price:
£222.61

I have a large CPU cooling fan, a large case fan, and a copy of Vista to put on it also.

Tell me if you think this is a good set-up. Plus, if you want to suggest some better parts within a reasonable price, please do.
Severus Snape
You need to seriously rethink your pc here. The Intel Celeron chip is for shit, and good luck running Windows Vista with that. Spend some cash and build a better PC than this.
DuPz0r
So what would you suggest? a Dual Core, a Quad? i heard quads are only really needed for hardcore gaming PC's. I'm not into all that, i have a Console for gaming. I want something that will process simple 2 dimensional graphics...
DonkeyTits
From what I've heard, multiple cores aren't necessarily better for gaming, but multitasking. So if you run multiple programs at once (who doesn't?) it would be a better setup.

I have also heard that Celerons are shit.

I would go with a dual core at least. Maybe more ram too, if you want to run Vista.
DuPz0r
Dual core, ok. I was sort of thinking of that. Thanks for your comments anyway.
Pieface
You could save yourself like £40 by buying the cheapest case available, which includes PSU, unless you want it.

For Example:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126610 With a larger PSU - £24.
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quick...145,44110000,11 With a slightly smaller PSU - £18

And then you could spend this money on more for your Processor.
TheAnalogKid2112
I have a Celeron. Not bad at all. It's the other specs that really affect it I think.
DuPz0r
What about a;
Intel Core Duo E4600 2.40.GHz (775) - £65

And a;
OCZ 4GB PC2-6400 Gold (2x4GB) £45

these seem pretty decent for the price?

Remember, i want to run Vista, but mostly i need this computer for high res digital imagery usage.

Can anyone suggest a decent setup for this, i don't want to spent much more then £300.
Thanks
Pieface
QUOTE(DuPz0rô @ Aug 8 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]1458373[/snapback]
What about a;
Intel Core Duo E4600 2.40.GHz (775) - £65

And a;
OCZ 4GB PC2-6400 Gold (2x4GB) £45

these seem pretty decent for the price?

Remember, i want to run Vista, but mostly i need this computer for high res digital imagery usage.

Can anyone suggest a decent setup for this, i don't want to spent much more then £300.
Thanks

It all depends on what your motherboard can handle aswell, such as can it handle that type of RAM? And is it the right port for the graphics card.
DuPz0r
Yeah, they're compatible.
DonkeyTits
You should be satisfied with that processor and ram, for sure.
FrankCastle
Is that 32 bit Vista you are going to be running?
32 bit operating systems can only recognize anywhere between 3 - 3.5 GB.
I'm just mentioning this because I saw that you posted 4GB or ram. If you could find 3GB of ram you might be able to save money. Also, make sure your motherboard can support that much memory.
DonkeyTits
An operating system that prefers limited ram? o_0 Can anyone else back this up?
Pieface
He's correct, 64 bit Vista accepts upto 8 GB Of RAM but 32 bit vista is only to 3.5GB
FuddMan
Actually, the maximum RAM depends on the version of Vista you're using, as well as whether it's 32 or 64-bit:



It's Windows XP that is limited to 3GB.
DuPz0r
I have Vista Home Premium 32-bit
DuPz0r
Ok, i spent some more time looking around and i made a new list. Tell me if this is a good price, and if the components are good;

Asrock WOLFDALE1333-GLAN/M2 i945GC Socket 775 Motherboard - £27.40
Thermaltake TR2 RX W0146 450W Modular PSU - £29.07
XFX Geforce 8500GT 512MB DDR2 PCI-E (Passive) - £29.95
Arianet 1GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM - £9.95
Arianet 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM - £14.95
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 2.53GHz (Retail 775) - £66.95
500Gb Western Digital SATA2 - 16MB - 7200RPM - £38.50
X-Blade MIDI Tower Case - Silver - £26.50


Cart Total £243.27
VAT £42.57
Total £285.84

3GB of DDR2 because i'm using Vista 32-bit

Leave comments.
Pieface
I'd try my hardest to at least get an 8600, the 8500 is just a terrible, terrible card.

Also correct me if i'm wrong, you have no monitor?
DuPz0r
i have a 19" screen.

oh and why is that card terrible?
FuddMan
Well there aren't many ways a card can be terrible. Its performance just isn't worth the money you pay for it, even if it is cheap.

And why are you now only getting 3GB when, as I've shown you, Vista Home Premium 32-bit can make use of 4GB? It's XP that is limited to 3GB.
DuPz0r
Oh right, i missed that. So it wouldn't effect the performance of 32-bit vista what so ever? If that's the case, I'll get the 4GB.
Ophis-
This is actually turning into a decent thread, ive just learnt a nice chunk of info and in the future when im after a custom tower im gonna report back here! haha.
Severus Snape
QUOTE(DuPz0rô @ Aug 11 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]1458898[/snapback]
Ok, i spent some more time looking around and i made a new list. Tell me if this is a good price, and if the components are good;

Asrock WOLFDALE1333-GLAN/M2 i945GC Socket 775 Motherboard - £27.40
Thermaltake TR2 RX W0146 450W Modular PSU - £29.07
XFX Geforce 8500GT 512MB DDR2 PCI-E (Passive) - £29.95
Arianet 1GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM - £9.95
Arianet 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM - £14.95
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 2.53GHz (Retail 775) - £66.95
500Gb Western Digital SATA2 - 16MB - 7200RPM - £38.50
X-Blade MIDI Tower Case - Silver - £26.50


Cart Total £243.27
VAT £42.57
Total £285.84

3GB of DDR2 because i'm using Vista 32-bit

Leave comments.

1. No optical (cd/dvd) drives? How do you plan on installing Vista?
2. No floppy drive? How do you plan on doing initial boot and partitioning of drives?
3. No keyboard/mouse combo?
4. Any other peripheral devices (printer, joystick, midi, etc.)?
5. No sound card? You really going to trust the on-board sound on this rig?

And agreed on the 8500. The performance is terrible and isn't worth the money you would spend on it.
FuddMan
If he isn't going to do any hardcore gaming, onboard sound will be enough. Also, a floppy drive? Are you kidding? Floppy drives are obsolete now, everything is done on CDs and DVDs (and USB sticks).
FrankCastle
QUOTE(DuPz0rô @ Aug 12 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]1459013[/snapback]
Oh right, i missed that. So it wouldn't effect the performance of 32-bit vista what so ever? If that's the case, I'll get the 4GB.



Having 4GB of memory won't affect anything besides your wallet. Even if Vista doesn't recognize the full 4GB, it will still work just fine. The only difference is, you would have paid for 4GB and only be able to use about 3 to 3.5GB of it.

Duffman must have found a way around this problem because Microsoft seems to agree with me as well. Note that under WORKAROUND the very last bullet point says "An x64 (64-bit) version of Windows Vista must be used".
DuPz0r
QUOTE(Ashley Graham @ Aug 12 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]1459100[/snapback]
1. No optical (cd/dvd) drives? How do you plan on installing Vista?
2. No floppy drive? How do you plan on doing initial boot and partitioning of drives?
3. No keyboard/mouse combo?
4. Any other peripheral devices (printer, joystick, midi, etc.)?
5. No sound card? You really going to trust the on-board sound on this rig?

And agreed on the 8500. The performance is terrible and isn't worth the money you would spend on it.


I have those parts laying about the house no worries.


QUOTE(FrankCastle @ Aug 13 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]1459137[/snapback]
Having 4GB of memory won't affect anything besides your wallet. Even if Vista doesn't recognize the full 4GB, it will still work just fine. The only difference is, you would have paid for 4GB and only be able to use about 3 to 3.5GB of it.

Duffman must have found a way around this problem because Microsoft seems to agree with me as well. Note that under WORKAROUND the very last bullet point says "An x64 (64-bit) version of Windows Vista must be used".


Well i'm better off buying as much memory as my motherboard can support, saves me updating it at a later date.
Severus Snape
QUOTE(DuffMan @ Aug 12 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]1459103[/snapback]
If he isn't going to do any hardcore gaming, onboard sound will be enough. Also, a floppy drive? Are you kidding? Floppy drives are obsolete now, everything is done on CDs and DVDs (and USB sticks).

I won't argue with you on that. However, nothing beats having a Windows 9x/NT/2000/XP bootable floppy disk, especially when you are doing a clean install and want to partition first. Besides - they're cheap. And I still have games on 3.5 inch diskettes, so I'll never get rid of mine.
Ophis-
QUOTE(Ashley Graham @ Aug 13 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]1459212[/snapback]
QUOTE(DuffMan @ Aug 12 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]1459103[/snapback]
If he isn't going to do any hardcore gaming, onboard sound will be enough. Also, a floppy drive? Are you kidding? Floppy drives are obsolete now, everything is done on CDs and DVDs (and USB sticks).

I won't argue with you on that. However, nothing beats having a Windows 9x/NT/2000/XP bootable floppy disk, especially when you are doing a clean install and want to partition first. Besides - they're cheap. And I still have games on 3.5 inch diskettes, so I'll never get rid of mine.


I use an exturnal USB Floppy drive. Works a charm on the computers and laptops i have without a floopy drive.
FrankCastle
The floppy drive is not needed, but since you have one laying around it doesn't hurt to put it to use. They have proven to be useful on rare occasions.

It's kinda funny because floppy drives are pretty much obsolete but motherboard manufacturers refuse to build boards without that little connector on there. So they are not truly gone till those motherboard connectors are gone.
DuPz0r
Is the ATI Radeon HD 3650 512MB PCI-E any good for £38.89 inc. VAT ???
Because i have the money to buy it on friday, i want to double check, to see if anything sucks...

This is my list now:

Asrock WOLFDALE1333-GLAN/M2 i945GC Socket 775 Motherboard - £27.40
Thermaltake TR2 RX W0146 450W Modular PSU - £29.07
ATI Radeon HD 3650 512MB PCI-E - £33.10
Arianet 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM - £14.95
Arianet 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM - £14.95
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 2.53GHz (Retail 775) - £66.95
500Gb Western Digital SATA2 - 16MB - 7200RPM - £38.50
X-Blade MIDI Tower Case - Silver - £26.50

Cart Total £255.53
VAT £44.72
Total £300.25
psychÝ
Not a necessity but having a small 10,000 RPM hard drive for the OS and like your 5 favourite games is good as it speeds up the boot time and the OS generally.

In Kontrol
Don't mean to hi-jack the thread but I've been thinking the same to be honest. Something high end but not high on price. scooter.gif

Intel Quad Core Q6600 2.4GHz S775 £113.25
Gigabyte S775 Intel P35 DDR2 ATX Audio Lan £76.36
OCZ Technology 2x2GB 240DIMM PC2-6400 Gold £51.52
Corsair Memory 620 Watt, ATX, EPS12V, PS/2, £84.30
Western Digital Caviar 750GB 7200RPM S300 16MB £67.97
Samsung RETAIL 20X DVD WRITER SATA LIGHTSCRIBE NERO £17.37

Haven't decided on the rest yet but it all seems pretty low budget at the minute. Jumpy.gif
GTA 4EVER
its too late to say now, but all of ur spec is good. a good decision to buy it.
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