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Neon™
Well I recently posted this in a VCS for PS2 thread...

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I'm for it, I'd buy it, and I'd love to have a giant box set eventally....

GTA: The PS2 Years
-Grand Theft Auto 3
-Grand Theft Auto Liberty City Stories
-Grand Theft Auto Vice City
-Grand Theft Auto Vice City Stories
-Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
-Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Stories

This brings up San Andreas. This could be a whole new topic, but for the sake of arguement...I'll start a new topic.


Here's that topic. SAS for PSP would be awesome but I think you'd ruin some of it by having load screens which would be inevitable. I'd still love to have SA in the palm of my hand, and I think there is room for a number of different storylines to be created using the world of San Andreas. And for all of you who think it'd just be a throwback to GTA 3 graphics, go play VCS. The graphics aren't horrible.

My main problem with SA on PSP is the lack of another joystick. I dont know about you, but once I got into the habit of looking around every corner with the right analog stick before I drove around them, I never stopped. To have a rotational camera was such a big step foward in GTA and such a big part of San Andreas that I'm not sure how you could eliminate it. I mean, you could, but it just wouldn't be the same.


SAS for the PS2. My stance on this is that it'd be purely a moneymaker. There's not much to fix, not much you could add to make it better, and not much that's missing overall. Just a new story, which could definitely be a plus. You could say you are against this because you still regularly play SA on whatever platform you have it for, but I played Vice City on my computer up to the day VCS came out, and I still do, I still play San Andreas on the computer and the PS2, and I even played GTA 3 up to the day LCS came out, and still had no problems with doing it again on the PSP.

Just wondering your opinions.
gtasanandreasgeek
I loved San andreas and it was the best game to ever come out on ps2 (maybe) and i would love to see it on psp....But a umd is to small to hold something that big.A umd can only hold 1.8gb and even vice city stories took up 1.56gb.So i think its impossible,unless the cut out an island or something...
Neon™
I completely forgot about that

lol i feel like an idiot

You're right tho...well there's always the option of using flash memory, in the sense of loading it onto the card. That could actually be a big income, if SONY would find a way to enable you to download games to your memory card and still limit pirating. It'd be pirated in a week tho so that's prolly why they dont do it.

What you COULD do is have a San Andreas 2 pack, one UMD with the game engine stored on it, and all the other essential parts, and have another one with all the graphical stuff, the world, and all the littler parts. Have one or the other get loaded onto the memory card, and then you'd narrow it down to one but still have the space of two. I dont know if the psp is able to communicate that much data simultaneously between the memory, UMD, and the screen, but it can at least stream your music ingame, and thats a start happy.gif
Kamahl
if you are a real GTA fan then every GTA is worth it, i cant see a reason why it would be bad.

Whoever voted bad for the PSP is just wrong.
Neon™
That person is wrong, and it isnt me lol

Well the only thing is I can't see .. alright in LCS for ps2 they fixed bugs, in VCS for PS2 if there is one im sure they will fix bugs. There's nothing to fix in San Andreas. Which would make it even easier to get a version out.

I'd buy it.
HB~Sauce
QUOTE(gtasanandreasgeek @ Nov 11 2006, 08:05 PM) [snapback]1256915[/snapback]

I loved San andreas and it was the best game to ever come out on ps2 (maybe) and i would love to see it on psp....But a umd is to small to hold something that big.A umd can only hold 1.8gb and even vice city stories took up 1.56gb.So i think its impossible,unless the cut out an island or something...



I thought VCS only took up 900mb's....
RhymeCraft
i already made a topic about this and creating s.a.s is possible... rockstar said it is possible but they were gonna focus on gta 4 after vcs
thecolster123
it wood b rubbish on PSP, but maybe an idea to put on PS2..

my reason:

LCS 70ish missions - 3 small islands - some side missions
VCS 70ish missions - 2 medium islands 2 small islands - loads of side missions
SAS ??ish missions - 3 large islands with land all around them - AT LEAST some side missions (usuals and more)

for the PSP to handle the 3 large islands, it might mean ud have 2 sacrafise (sp) some missions.... which might mean 40-50missions, and also, R* have got to put in side missions, and secrets, and collectables, and i dont think it can all fit on 1.8Gb...
Blaze-uK
No please , San Andreas was the worst of the GTA's IMO , after the strory ended I didn't want to play it any more , with GTA III and VC and LCS I wanted to carry on to get 100% or just mess around with San Andreas and VCS I didn't want to carry on after the storyline had finished so if R* do another GTA PSP in 2008 it will hopefully tie in with GTA IV characters some how.
Vertical
if they did make this

i don't think R* should make it for ps2/3

it ruins the whole point of having a psp if the good games are just gonna come out for other consoles

make the people who want vice city stories yet have no psp suffer i say

lol
No-Fi
Not that theres much point in a PSP, with all the glitches and failings. Kinda sucks they wasted an otherwise awesome game on such a crap system. But thats off topic.

I'd love a SAS. Would be kind of cool to see an 80s style SA, maybe playing as Sweet or Brian. Or maybe seeing how he gets killed. Or even seeing what Bear and Devil were like.
SlickCriminal92
If they made SAS for the PSP, do you think they would only have Los Santos, and the other cities gone?? I don't know how they can possibly fit all of San Andreas on the PSP. I was quite impressed when they did it with the PS2 version.
Handsome B Wonderful
I don't think they should make SAS for any platform. I'd prefer they concentrate on making GTAIV (and other future games) as good as it can be.

I personally didn't like any of the characters in SA, so unless there is a whole stack of new, interesting characters, i don't really care if it gets made or not.

Besides, if VCS is a glitch fest, imagine what SA on the PSP would be like?
Neon™
Who here would be game for a GTA unique to the PSP? Obviuously people who have a psp would say yes and those who dont would say no, but its more than that. I see alot of potential in a gta unique to PSP, with its own story and city etc.
Dommo

QUOTE
I'm for it, I'd buy it, and I'd love to have a giant box set eventally....

GTA: The PS2 Years
-Grand Theft Auto 3
-Grand Theft Auto Liberty City Stories
-Grand Theft Auto Vice City
-Grand Theft Auto Vice City Stories
-Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
-Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Stories



I'd love that, but it would be sooooooooo expensive.
HB~Sauce
Personally I would like to see a San Andreas Stories, to finish up the "stories" trilogy. If it is gonna be created I will preorder a copy, if not then thats how the cookie crumble's.
Vertical
QUOTE(Neon™ @ Nov 18 2006, 10:57 PM) [snapback]1259835[/snapback]

Who here would be game for a GTA unique to the PSP? Obviuously people who have a psp would say yes and those who dont would say no, but its more than that. I see alot of potential in a gta unique to PSP, with its own story and city etc.



i agree

that would be awesome

just hope it wouldnt be like gta on the nintendo advance

that was rubbish
Stan Petrov
GTA SAS would be a dream come true, but its simply not going to live up to SA's standards, nowhere near in fact.

SA's biggest asset was its multitude of missions, vast land space and its mass variety of vehicles.

VCS was such a success because it could easily replicate another great choice of radio songs, and the lesser, but more scenic land space of VC.

a potential SAS would have to replicate something which it just couldnt imo, not to R*'s high standards anyway.Id love for the character to be Ceaser, or Big Smoke. Big Smoke bitch! cool.gif



Tht's why I think a potential PSP unique ame like neon suggested would be far more wiser for R*.



In saying all that, Id still they rather concentrated wholly on GTA IV, for obvious reasons biggrin.gif
Tyla
Yeah, SAS would be a great idea, but in my view, they should limit it to only Los Santos.

The Storyline for me would go something like this :

You play as Sweet Johnson. Its 1987, Grove street families are big, with characters such as CJ, Brian, Big Smoke, Ryder, Big Bear and BDup.

The first mission starts as a tutorial to the gangs of Los Santos - The Ballers, Los Santos Vagos and the Los Varrios Aztecas. As Sweet, you recruit a small gang of Grovers(2 or 3) and drive them into 1st, Ballers Terrirory, 2nd Vagos Territory and finally Azectas Territory. You(Sweet) take your gang upto a small gang of Ballers, and beat the shit out of them to show the grovers how its done*this applies for the other 2 gangs btw*

The ending of SAS would see the start of Grove Streets problems that we see in the original, with the ending scene showing CJ killing Brian, and running away to Liberty City. But between us we see why CJ killed Brian, so that would tie up a loose end.

-spyder-
I thought of this idea too, i thought about calling it GTA : Los Santos Stories but there are problems like, the boundries of Los Santos, would you be able to see further of LS, how would they block the outer boundries?
And it would be quite boring after a while riding around LS, Ok they could improve stuff like more shops, car customisation etc. And aircrafts is another problem, coz you wont be able to fly far because of a barrier stopping you

I like the idea but i cant see it happening
HB~Sauce
QUOTE(Stan Petrov @ Nov 19 2006, 04:32 AM) [snapback]1260082[/snapback]

GTA SAS would be a dream come true, but its simply not going to live up to SA's standards, nowhere near in fact.

SA's biggest asset was its multitude of missions, vast land space and its mass variety of vehicles.

VCS was such a success because it could easily replicate another great choice of radio songs, and the lesser, but more scenic land space of VC.

a potential SAS would have to replicate something which it just couldnt imo, not to R*'s high standards anyway.Id love for the character to be Ceaser, or Big Smoke. Big Smoke bitch! cool.gif



Tht's why I think a potential PSP unique ame like neon suggested would be far more wiser for R*.



In saying all that, Id still they rather concentrated wholly on GTA IV, for obvious reasons biggrin.gif


But couldn't technology improve with the UMD or Rockstar create a game engine that improves on VCS's with more freedom to build?
Kamahl
Rockstar North: GTA developers for consoles
Rockstar Leeds: GTA developers for PSP!!!

Stop saying they gotta concentrate on GTA IV, they are 2 different places, if Rockstar Leeds disappeared today, it wouldnt affect GTA IV, that would just mean no new GTA PSPs.
BIG FUCKING SPIDER
On Story terms, I think they will give us the other end of the spectrum, playing as a Ballas as they bring Grove Street down and split it up.
Stan Petrov
QUOTE(Kamahl @ Nov 19 2006, 06:56 PM) [snapback]1260273[/snapback]

Rockstar North: GTA developers for consoles
Rockstar Leeds: GTA developers for PSP!!!

Stop saying they gotta concentrate on GTA IV, they are 2 different places, if Rockstar Leeds disappeared today, it wouldnt affect GTA IV, that would just mean no new GTA PSPs.



R* Leeds is a branch of Rockstar North, not a seperate company.

Various writers etc. worked for both.
-spyder-
How can R* Leeds make just PSP games, they have made many other games on PS2 and XBox like Midnight Club 3 and made part of Bully

(R* Leeds is like 4 miles from my house tongue.gif )
BIG FUCKING SPIDER
QUOTE(gta.gamer @ Nov 20 2006, 04:47 PM) [snapback]1260682[/snapback]

How can R* Leeds make just PSP games, they have made many other games on PS2 and XBox like Midnight Club 3 and made part of Bully

(R* Leeds is like 4 miles from my house tongue.gif )

Before they becaem R* Leeds they were a company that only made Portable games. When R* moved into th Portable buisness they needed Specialists, so i guess that is why.

(BTW, R* Leeds is like 3 miles from my House thumbup.gif )
No-Fi
I think SAS would center on Weasel, Front Yard Royalty of the Ballas. (Or whoever) The year would be circa 1993, and for your first mission, you roll on Grove Street and raise hell. All the way through the first few missions, your backed against a wall. Sweet and CJ are kicking your gangs ass, and your always looseing territory. Then, you get the chance of a lifetime- kill BJ. With his death, CJ leaves in disgrace and Sweet sinks into depression. Using crack as a lever, you build up enough money to build a bridge to the now defunct USSR. With the new weapons, killing off GSF OGs is no sweat. Before long, Little Bear and Devil are dead. BDup and Big Bear are your base slaves. As a Balla, life is good. Life is great. And then Ryder and Smoke turn over to you as well....

OR...

Its 1998. Your an up and coming member of CJs gangster army. Your job is to lay waste to everything in Las Venturas. CJ owns LS and SF. Your main target has become a man called Mike, the main bodyguard for the Leone family. After dismantling the Mafia Empire, Don Leone flees, and Mike is thrown to the streets. CJ offers you an Empire of your own. Go to LC, and take the fight to them. Work with the Triads, and crush the Leone. Vinnie is on your side, but he gets killed by Mike. Mike flees LC after you have the police attack 8-Ball. You set up a new gang, the Red Jacks. But Lt thinks otherwise, and builds his own Purple Nines. Oh, and try to stop the Columbians from getting the Oriental Gentlmen - an old friend of Woozie. Your name is D-Ice... can you do whats asked of you before CJ arrives?


And thats that. My two stories for San Andreas.
RhymeCraft
QUOTE(Stan Petrov @ Nov 20 2006, 02:48 PM) [snapback]1260674[/snapback]

QUOTE(Kamahl @ Nov 19 2006, 06:56 PM) [snapback]1260273[/snapback]

Rockstar North: GTA developers for consoles
Rockstar Leeds: GTA developers for PSP!!!

Stop saying they gotta concentrate on GTA IV, they are 2 different places, if Rockstar Leeds disappeared today, it wouldnt affect GTA IV, that would just mean no new GTA PSPs.



R* Leeds is a branch of Rockstar North, not a seperate company.

Various writers etc. worked for both.

R* leeds is a branch of Rockstar Games.
Stan Petrov
QUOTE(Needlz @ Nov 21 2006, 08:53 AM) [snapback]1261145[/snapback]

QUOTE(Stan Petrov @ Nov 20 2006, 02:48 PM) [snapback]1260674[/snapback]

QUOTE(Kamahl @ Nov 19 2006, 06:56 PM) [snapback]1260273[/snapback]

Rockstar North: GTA developers for consoles
Rockstar Leeds: GTA developers for PSP!!!

Stop saying they gotta concentrate on GTA IV, they are 2 different places, if Rockstar Leeds disappeared today, it wouldnt affect GTA IV, that would just mean no new GTA PSPs.



R* Leeds is a branch of Rockstar North, not a seperate company.

Various writers etc. worked for both.

R* leeds is a branch of Rockstar Games.



thats what I meant to say. laugh.gif
Zacko
Just throwing out an idea here but it could work possibly (Doubt it though)

.. Considering the title would probably be San Andreas Stories why couldn't it be exactly that? Story's. You'd be able to play as a huge number of different characters possibly and in turn that would give some great variety of gameplay, it would also mean R* could just put in the main citys and cross out the countryside.

I don't have a clue if it would work and I didn't explain it very well but I'd definatly buy it and so would lots of people, It's GTA.
Neon™
Yeah I dont know who came up with this Stories deal, but it doesnt make much sense.
Viva_La_Bam_
THEY could put in on several UMDs. DUH>
Tyla
^He has a point, one UMD = Los Santos, one San Fierro etc. For each UMD there could be a different character, which could bring light to the ''stories'' name.
Blaze-uK
I'd be happy for them to take things out like multiplayer.
ryanshedy
nooooooo!!!!!!!!
you cant talk mulitiplayer becuase that would strike -20 point with IGN and maybe a few from gtawh.

but the point is that -

S.A.S is possible, but if you could make it you would most probebly get

1. little story line,
2. not as many intoroirs ( CASINOS, GYM, CLUCKIN BELL ETC -)
3. Low frame rate
4. crappy FIRMWIRE UPDATE
5. MAYBE NEW FEATURES
6. terriorys may not be available
7. Just might, just might be the chance of all the city being there
8. SHITE GRAPHICS

This is only my oppion if am wrong gimme a holla
Vertical
if you could play multiplayer when connected to the inet then yeah

im the only one outta my friends with a psp so i can't play multiplayer on vcs or lcs sad.gif(

and yeah...

they could leave out interiors

and that thing where u gotta eat food

i hate that
Neon™
QUOTE(Neonspinnaz24 @ Nov 11 2006, 09:28 PM) [snapback]1256920[/snapback]

I completely forgot about that

lol i feel like an idiot

You're right tho...well there's always the option of using flash memory, in the sense of loading it onto the card. That could actually be a big income, if SONY would find a way to enable you to download games to your memory card and still limit pirating. It'd be pirated in a week tho so that's prolly why they dont do it.

What you COULD do is have a San Andreas 2 pack, one UMD with the game engine stored on it, and all the other essential parts, and have another one with all the graphical stuff, the world, and all the littler parts. Have one or the other get loaded onto the memory card, and then you'd narrow it down to one but still have the space of two. I dont know if the psp is able to communicate that much data simultaneously between the memory, UMD, and the screen, but it can at least stream your music ingame, and thats a start happy.gif


Apparently some of you guys didn't see that bit so im repeating it
Dommo
If they did make a SAS, they should do it from Ryder & Big Smoke's point of view. To show how they went from proper trustworthy people working with Sweet, to their working for the Ballas.
Blaze-uK
Or maybe add multiplayer on a seperate disc?
HB~Sauce
They are using a new engine for GTA 4, right? Maybe they could work something out with that engine for the PSP and make it possible for SAS. Or maybe they could double layer the UMD for 1.8GB's....
Blaze-uK
I think there already dual layered.
Neon™
I don't know about the dual layer deal but you guys are right about one thing...there has to be a way to up the tech and storage in UMDs tho. I can't picture Sony making a device that is ensured to reach its maximum abilities in under 2 years. Or a device in which the "memory cards" (so to speak) are bigger than the game discs are. I mean I know Sony intended this thing to be an all-in-one and not entirely focused on games, but I don't see how it can't be entirely focused on games.

Let's just say that I don't know what Sony was thinking when they (if this is really the case) created a medium to put the games on if they knew it wouldn't be big enough to do what the console can do. It's like having a PS3 with a standard DVD drive. The console would outperform the drive. That makes no sense.
-spyder-
Dont you think Vice City Stories has enough problems

Ok dont get me wrong, but id love to see San Andreas on the PSP but really i cant see it happening

They could have 3 UMDs but then the game would cost alot more than its usual price
HammerHead
^ It could be like a multi disk game?

And with the idea of a different characters in each part of the map..

Los Santos - CJ's younger brother Brian?

San Fierro - Somebody in the Triads/Rifa?

Las Venturas - A casino/mafia boss?

San Andreas stories - Los Santos/San Fierro/Las Venturas edition

It could work, I don't have a PSP but perhaps if they toned it down.. removed some crap features and stuff, it might work.
Tyla
QUOTE
^ It could be like a multi disk game?

And with the idea of a different characters in each part of the map..

Los Santos - CJ's younger brother Brian?

San Fierro - Somebody in the Triads/Rifa?

Las Venturas - A casino/mafia boss?

San Andreas stories - Los Santos/San Fierro/Las Venturas edition

It could work, I don't have a PSP but perhaps if they toned it down.. removed some crap features and stuff, it might work.


Exactly what im trying to say above . It would be good, i would defanatly buy it. This way we could see how everything turned out, the mafia concerned about Tommy's takeover of Vice City, Brian's death and Grove Streets Downfall.
Neon™
As you're crossing over to San Fierro from Los Santos....

"Please insert Disc 2"

Back to the Ps1 days....tongue.gif
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