Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: White supremacy?
iGrandTheftAuto.com Forums > GTA4.TV/GTA-SanAndreas.com Archive > Old Forum Archive (Read Only) > General > Political & World Issues
Pages: 1, 2
Stead
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/

well i found that site by accident last week, and i thought it was just a bunch of people fed up with how a black person can call a white person a skanky hoe, but if a white person calls a black person a skanky hoe thats racism, and i thought, thats a fair point, i'm a bit fed up of being called a racist if i say a black joke, even tho black people make money from telling joke about while people (i an't saying i don't think its funny, just its a bit like sexism, even tho its fair, woman always get the upperhand)

so then after looking thru the site i find a band called 'Prussian Blue'

that all looks sweet and innocent, but i'm getting the feeling something isn't as friendly as it seems, so after thinking i must be insane thinking these sites are secretly promoting white supremacy, and relgious 'cleansing' i had a quick look on google, and found this interesting article

anywho, another link in me mind was that i noticed someone on this forum seemed to fit the bill for being an avid supporter of this stuff, and thought before this person was just joking tongue.gif but its all a bit crazy, if anyone can be bothered to read it, i'm just wondering on other peoples opinons?
Albino
Oh god.

Just reading the bottom news article about a cutesy-girl rock act about glorifying Hitler makes me sick.

Makes me feel like they're trying to undermine and brainwash the youth early into hatred.
Fido 14
QUOTE(Stead @ Mar 25 2006, 11:22 AM) [snapback]1121447[/snapback]

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/

well i found that site by accident last week, and i thought it was just a bunch of people fed up with how a black person can call a white person a skanky hoe, but if a white person calls a black person a skanky hoe thats racism, and i thought, thats a fair point, i'm a bit fed up of being called a racist if i say a black joke, even tho black people make money from telling joke about while people (i an't saying i don't think its funny, just its a bit like sexism, even tho its fair, woman always get the upperhand)

so then after looking thru the site i find a band called 'Prussian Blue'

that all looks sweet and innocent, but i'm getting the feeling something isn't as friendly as it seems, so after thinking i must be insane thinking these sites are secretly promoting white supremacy, and relgious 'cleansing' i had a quick look on google, and found this interesting article

anywho, another link in me mind was that i noticed someone on this forum seemed to fit the bill for being an avid supporter of this stuff, and thought before this person was just joking tongue.gif but its all a bit crazy, if anyone can be bothered to read it, i'm just wondering on other peoples opinons?


I'm not going to talk about this whole "white suprecmacy" as there's no point in engaging in a discussion that I repetitively engaged in the past. Anyways, Prussian Blue is just a singing band. They're not NS at all. Sure they can support it and feel like there's nothing wrong with NS, but I don't consider Lynx Gaede and Lamb Gaede NS. Just because they wear shirts with a hitler smiley face doesn't mean anything. They're White Nationalists. I don't favor their music as its not the music that I like, mine is more along the lines of hatecore and NS metal.

QUOTE(Albino @ Mar 25 2006, 11:40 AM) [snapback]1121450[/snapback]

Oh god.

Just reading the bottom news article about a cutesy-girl rock act about glorifying Hitler makes me sick.

Makes me feel like they're trying to undermine and brainwash the youth early into hatred.


Well now you know how I feel when I see a million people glorifying criminal rappers who get rich off their criminal lifestyle that influences the youth to act the same way. Brainwashing the youth into hatred laugh.gif . Its called awakening and being pragmatic. If you consider these little gals brainwashed, then you'll be surprised how "brainwashed" my child is going to be when I have one laugh.gif .
Bain
QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Mar 25 2006, 05:41 PM) [snapback]1121676[/snapback]

QUOTE(Albino @ Mar 25 2006, 11:40 AM) [snapback]1121450[/snapback]

Oh god.

Just reading the bottom news article about a cutesy-girl rock act about glorifying Hitler makes me sick.

Makes me feel like they're trying to undermine and brainwash the youth early into hatred.


Well now you know how I feel when I see a million people glorifying criminal rappers who get rich off their criminal lifestyle that influences the youth to act the same way. Brainwashing the youth into hatred laugh.gif . Its called awakening and being pragmatic. If you consider these little gals brainwashed, then you'll be surprised how "brainwashed" my child is going to be when I have one laugh.gif .



Also.....how it looks when millions of people support a guilty criminal or part of society such as the Rodney King incident, and the Tookie Smith incident.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
I think you'll find Hitler and the fascist movement had a worse affect on society than Tookie Williams...
Fido 14
He took a demilitarized, 0 pride, economic downfall nation into a world superpower in 15 years after WWI.

* Between 1933 and 1939, the marriage rate had increased by 9.2%.
* Hitler turned around an economy.
* Hitler set up a health insurance scheme for all Germans that only cost 10 cents per person per day that would fund the whole health sector. People paid for what they used, hence no one could complain about unfair taxes.
* Nazi Germany was one of the only countries not to deny women the right to vote during war time.
* Hitler enacted the first laws to protect animals from cruelty which afforded them protection in line with what humans received, this law existed till the late 1970's till it was renamed in an effort to de-Nazify Germany.
* Nazi Germany provided unlimited money towards an alternative fuel source other than oil by investing in synthetic petrol and electric power generation.
* Hitler also invested in anti-gravity theories.
* Hitler invested heavily into rocket technology, the A-10 rocket was used as the basis for the launch of the Sputnic satellite after WW2.
* Outlawed medical experimentation on animals.
* He undertook a war against the Communist horde that no major power in the world would do, or has done yet by the way.
* He put the power of the state in the hands of an all German state instead of the Jews.
* His Nazi party was one of the first to start a war on cancer.
* Under his leadership the first blood tests were given to drivers that were under the influence of Alcohol.
* The party, under Hitler's command, encouraged family morals, motherhood, fatherhood, respect and honor.
* Hitler was actually a believer in women's rights and wanted to help abused and disenfranchised women. Hence the motherhood programs came into place.
* He was an environmentalist seeking to protect nature clean air, water.
* Brave and decorated soldier of WW1.
* Artist, lover of the Arts, both Classical music and Architecture.
* He envisioned the Autobahn and Volkswagen.
* Gave the German workers the first May Day.
* Under "Strength Through Joy" gave paid vacation trips to workers.

Oh yes, he was such an evil creature.
CaldMagi
Stalin > Hitler.
Qdeathstar


QUOTE(Stead @ Mar 25 2006, 11:22 AM) [snapback]1121447[/snapback]

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/

well i found that site by accident last week, and i thought it was just a bunch of people fed up with how a black person can call a white person a skanky hoe, but if a white person calls a black person a skanky hoe thats racism, and i thought, thats a fair point, i'm a bit fed up of being called a racist if i say a black joke, even tho black people make money from telling joke about while people (i an't saying i don't think its funny, just its a bit like sexism, even tho its fair, woman always get the upperhand)

so then after looking thru the site i find a band called 'Prussian Blue'

that all looks sweet and innocent, but i'm getting the feeling something isn't as friendly as it seems, so after thinking i must be insane thinking these sites are secretly promoting white supremacy, and relgious 'cleansing' i had a quick look on google, and found this interesting article

anywho, another link in me mind was that i noticed someone on this forum seemed to fit the bill for being an avid supporter of this stuff, and thought before this person was just joking tongue.gif but its all a bit crazy, if anyone can be bothered to read it, i'm just wondering on other peoples opinons?



1. Skankey hoe? seriously...

2. The word nigger would have made more since

3. yawn. YA, we know all about the "white man's burden"



And, As for you fido.. I doubt that you'll find may people who will argue that Hitler wasnt a genious... but, just because he was a genious, doesnt mean he wasnt evil. If he didnt do those things which you listed, he wouldnt have became powerful enough to commit the atroucitities he did commit. If he had of just stoped there, with the things you listed, Germany might be where america is now... but he decided to use his talents for evil... and he ended up killing himself. What a man, what a pussy. .....

QUOTE

Hitler enacted the first laws to protect animals from cruelty which afforded them protection in line with what humans received, this law existed till the late 1970's till it was renamed in an effort to de-Nazify Germany.


How much protection is that? inline with what humans recieve.. Gassing, torture and starvation? RLY?

QUOTE

Hitler invested heavily into rocket technology, the A-10 rocket was used as the basis for the launch of the Sputnic satellite after WW2


he invested in military weaponry. :YAY:....

QUOTE
* He undertook a war against the Communist horde that no major power in the world would do, or has done yet by the way.


?

QUOTE

* He put the power of the state in the hands of an all German state instead of the Jews.


YA. because, like, the jews ruled the world!

Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
Fido, stop being ridiculous. I realise he turned the economy around, but that's academic since he destroyed it again by picking a war with one too many countries.
Fido 14
QUOTE
Stalin > Hitler.


Hahaha, Stalin killed his own people.

QUOTE
And, As for you fido.. I doubt that you'll find may people who will argue that Hitler wasnt a genious... but, just because he was a genious, doesnt mean he wasnt evil. If he didnt do those things which you listed, he wouldnt have became powerful enough to commit the atroucitities he did commit. If he had of just stoped there, with the things you listed, Germany might be where america is now... but he decided to use his talents for evil... and he ended up killing himself. What a man, what a pussy. .....


And what evil is this exactly? You have no proof that he did all those things just to gain support from Germans. He loves his nation and his people and that's what National Socialism is about. As for the Jew, Hitler was brilliant enough to catch up on their schemes from a very early era. Something that most people could not detect, but he detected it. After WWI, Germany was very poor. Sort of like the Great Depression. The Jews in Germany took advantage of this bad situation and went and sold a lot of cheap things to Germans for high prices. The rich Jews controlled the banks and have intervened into the classy European households. Disguising themselves as clean Europeans so that they would not reveal their Asiastic Jewish appearance to the true Europeans. Therefore, causing a disturbance by blending in as Europeans so they could easily handle their maneuvers. Hitler simply planned on shipping them to Madagascar, but the Jews did not accept this and started a boycott against Germany. Therefore, Judea declared war on Germany.

Next approach from you will be the dreaded Jewish holocaust. I am not going to deny that Adolf Hitler killed Jews, but certainly not 6,000,000. Not even close to 6,000,000. The fact is that the majority of people were indoctrinated from a young age in schools to believe this propaganda. "Hitler was an evil man! Hitler killed lots of Jews! Hitler turned Jews into soap!" The same lies that I believed halfway of my life. Until I woke from this horseshit and started to question things and I became pragmatic. It is not my fault that I like to question things and be more open-minded and believe that there are two sides to every story. I guess a lot of people do not have that characteristic anymore due to the severe indoctrination through the educational facilities.

QUOTE
he invested in military weaponry. :YAY:....


It was used for space experiments? Hell, I bet Germany would be the first to go to the moon if it wasn't for WWII.

QUOTE
YA. because, like, the jews ruled the world!


You may think its a joke, but the truth cannot be a joke.
coreyko_2003
I'm not all for white supremacy but I am up for blacks shutting the fuck up in regards to the reverse discrimination and ebonics.
Qdeathstar
QUOTE


And what evil is this exactly? You have no proof that he did all those things just to gain support from Germans. He loves his nation and his people and that's what National Socialism is about. As for the Jew, Hitler was brilliant enough to catch up on their schemes from a very early era. Something that most people could not detect, but he detected it. After WWI, Germany was very poor. Sort of like the Great Depression. The Jews in Germany took advantage of this bad situation and went and sold a lot of cheap things to Germans for high prices. The rich Jews controlled the banks and have intervened into the classy European households. Disguising themselves as clean Europeans so that they would not reveal their Asiastic Jewish appearance to the true Europeans. Therefore, causing a disturbance by blending in as Europeans so they could easily handle their maneuvers. Hitler simply planned on shipping them to Madagascar, but the Jews did not accept this and started a boycott against Germany. Therefore, Judea declared war on Germany.


It doenst matter. I didnt say that he DID do those things JUST, I said that those things are what GAVE him power. v.v

QUOTE

Next approach from you will be the dreaded Jewish holocaust. I am not going to deny that Adolf Hitler killed Jews, but certainly not 6,000,000. Not even close to 6,000,000. The fact is that the majority of people were indoctrinated from a young age in schools to believe this propaganda. "Hitler was an evil man! Hitler killed lots of Jews! Hitler turned Jews into soap!" The same lies that I believed halfway of my life. Until I woke from this horseshit and started to question things and I became pragmatic. It is not my fault that I like to question things and be more open-minded and believe that there are two sides to every story. I guess a lot of people do not have that characteristic anymore due to the severe indoctrination through the educational facilities.


How many jews did he kill then? What made those deaths justified... I dont care if he killed 1million or 6million. Its still wrong and in his case, evil. What makes the death of one Jewish child justified? They werent strapping bombs to theirselves or planning any rebellion.. 1million jews, or 6million, does it matter? not really.

QUOTE

QUOTE
he invested in military weaponry. :YAY:....


It was used for space experiments? Hell, I bet Germany would be the first to go to the moon if it wasn't for WWII.


YOU do know that there is almost no difference between a rocket that can be used to put something in space and a rocket that can be used to carry an ICBM, right?
QUOTE

QUOTE
YA. because, like, the jews ruled the world!


You may think its a joke, but the truth cannot be a joke.


XD. ORLY? evidence... but please, nothing from KKK.com or ThejewishConspiracy.org please ....
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
He's going to come at you with some shit about 74,000 jews dying =/

Not that any of this matters, he got his non-Aryan ass kicked.
Fido 14
QUOTE

It doenst matter. I didnt say that he DID do those things JUST, I said that those things are what GAVE him power. v.v


Yeah? And so what? Even if it didn't give him power, he would still continue to do those things because was a National Socialist. That's what National Socialism is about.

QUOTE
How many jews did he kill then? What made those deaths justified... I dont care if he killed 1million or 6million. Its still wrong and in his case, evil. What makes the death of one Jewish child justified? They werent strapping bombs to theirselves or planning any rebellion.. 1million jews, or 6million, does it matter? not really.


I am estimating about 74,000. What made those deaths justified? Are you kidding me? What made the Jews taking advantage of a bad situation after WWI justified? What made them taking control of all the banks justified? Evil my ass. If you think 74,000 deaths is some how evil then you have to acknowledge that all of human history is "EVIL". From the day of dawn there have been murderings and many without reasons. Just look at ancient history for perfect examples of the most brutal empires, which make the Nazis look like a bunch of wimps. In this case with Hitler, it was the most reasonable. Hitler had no plans on killing the Jews. He simply wanted to ship them back to Madagascar. The Jews rebutted this and instead started a boycott against Germany. Therefore, Judea declared war on Germany. That's right, the JEWS declared war on Deutschland. Are you to say that Hitler was the most evil person ever to set foot on this Earth while Zionist tyrants who have trod this world for 100 years with an iron fist continue their crimes against Palestinians and other Arabs? That sounds certainly evil to me and of course George W. Bush and Tony Blair supporting and helping out these Zionist war crimes. That sounds terribly EVIL to me.

QUOTE
YOU do know that there is almost no difference between a rocket that can be used to put something in space and a rocket that can be used to carry an ICBM, right?


What is your point exactly? He used it for space experiments not for attacking other nations.

QUOTE
XD. ORLY? evidence... but please, nothing from KKK.com or ThejewishConspiracy.org please ....


You know I can put a thousand XD's and ORLY? YARLY!!'s too. That doesn't really help the discussion, now does it? The TRUTH cannot be biased. No matter who chooses to use the truth. Whether it be neo-Nazis, revisionists, or Arabs. You will always put a label and say "Hey, you can't believe what they say because.... well... THEY'RE EVIL NAZIS, HOLOCAUST DENIERS, AND TERRORISTS!" Google it yourself and you will find out who controls the major media outlets such as ABC/capital cities/Disney, CBS/Viacom, AOL-Time Warner, Vivendi/Universal, Fox broadcasting/News Corporation, Dreamworks SKG, Columbia Pictures, NBC/GE, Associated Press, Newhouse Media empire, New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, New York Daily News, Top American Radio. And we all know that the media is a very powerful tool for brainwashing the masses, e.g. MTV. The director of homeland security Michael Chertoff is Jewish. Daniel Goldin, a Jew, has been in control of NASA since 1992.

One of Bush's Foreign Policy Advisors, Richard Perle, is a known Jew with a history of sending classified government documents to the Israeli Embassy and also worked for Soltam, an Israeli company which builds weapons. Yet, he is allowed to continue working in our government. A close friend of Perle's is Jewboy Paul Wolfowitz, Bush's Deputy Defense Secretary. This list just goes on. The Jews Robert Satloff and Elliott Abrams are National Security Council Advisors. Dov Zekheim, Under Secretary of Defense and Comptroller, reportedly has dual citizenship with Israel. Douglas Feith, Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon has even closer ties with Israel. He is closely associated with the Zionist Organization of America, and runs a law firm which has only one office located in Israel.

Marc Grossman, a Jew, is Bush's Under Secretary of State of Political Affairs. Richard Haass, Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at Large, is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. He likes to promote bombing Iraq, as does Robert Zoellick, another Jew (U.S. Trade Representative). Other Jews include Henry Kissinger and James Schlesinger (both pentagon advisors who advocate bombing Iraq). Steve Goldsmith, Senior Advisor to the President, makes frequent trips to Israel.

Mel Sembler President of the export-Import Bank of the United States is a Jew. Joshua Bolten Chief Policy Director is a Jew. Adam Goldman, the White House Special Liaison to the Jewish Community is a Jew. Joseph Gildenhorn, Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community. Christopher Gersten, Former Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition. He is married to Linda Chavez, Labor Secretary. Mark Weinberger, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury is a Jew. Samuel Bodman, Deputy Secretary of Commerce is a Jew. Bonnie Cohen, Under Secretary of State for Management is a Jew. Ruth Davis, Director of Foreign Service Institute is a Jew. Lincoln Bloomfield, Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs is a Jew. Jay Lefkowitz, General Counsel of the Office of Budget and Management is a Jew. David Frum, White House Speechwriter is a Jew.

President Nixon once stated "People have to realize that Jews in the U.S. control the entire information and propaganda machine, the large newspapers, the motion pictures, radio and television, and the big
companies. And there is a force we have to take into consideration."

Additionally, American politicians, for the most part, are controlled by Jewish plutocrats, many of whom reside in Israel, as well. This is why Americanpoliticians are hesitant to be critical of Israel. This is not some bizarre "anti-Semitic fantasy," as Jews would like some people to believe. Rather, it is a fact with which America has to admit. Indeed, as much of the Internet has heard by now, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon openly gloats about such control. On October 3, 2001, the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs noted something rather disturbing that Sharon said on Israeli public radio:

"We the Jewish people control America. And the Americans know it."

Paul Findley, a congressman from Illinois for 22 years, documented this fact quite well in his book They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israels Lobby. If there were no others who would corroborate Findleys findings, it would be easy to discredit him as simply an anti-Semite. However, he cites numerous other politicians who have also pointed out this disturbing matter.

Apparently, this is how it works: Jews are allowed to have dual-citizenship between the U.S. and Israel. America gives Israel $4 billion a year that it does not pay back (and this doesnt necessarily include military secrets and hardware, plus occasional bank-bailouts and other matters). The Jews who are dual-citizens take a small portion of this $4 billion and re-invest it in American politics, choosing U.S. politicians who are likely to support Israel. (It is believed that Israel has somewhere around 300 different political action committees working inside of America, led by Jews with dual-citizenship.) Aside from Findleys book, the book Stealth PACs also describes how some of these pro-Israeli groups use seemingly innocuous names to hide their pro-Israel agenda at American taxpayers expense.

How much has this unchecked support of Israel cost American taxpayers? The well-respected economist Dr. Thomas Stauffer stated that Americas financial loss due to its support of Israel is about $1.7 trillion in todays dollars, roughly one-third of America's deficit. Numerous political figures have gone on record about this insane support of Israel that some endorse, shown below.

In February 1957, Secretary of State John Foster Dulles promulgated, "I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews."

Likewise, when Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Brown a question:

How can we stop Israel from obtaining from the Congress more foreign aid than any other nation in the world?

To this, General Brown responded:

When they get tough-minded enough to set down the Jewish influence in this country and break that lobby. It is so strong, you wouldnt believe it. Now, we have the Israelis coming to us for equipment. We say we cant probably get the Congress to support a program like this. And they say, Dont worry about the Congress. We will take care of the Congress. This is somebody from another country. But they can do it.

When some Jews countered with the usual argument that Gen. Brown was merely an anti-Semite, General M.B. Twining, a hero of WWII and the Korean War who was Commander of the U.S. Air Force, reportedly told the
San Diego Union:

A group of powerful U.S. Jews have grotesquely distorted U.S. foreign policy in blind fanatic support of Israel, and Gen. Brown deserves praise, not criticism, for saying so. As head of our nations armed forces, he sees us--a nation of 200 million people--being dragooned into a disastrous war . . . by a ruthless lobby of Jewish-American extremists single-mindedly bent on enforcing their rule or ruin policy in the Middle East.

Admiral Thomas Moorer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff described this alarming pattern as well:

"I've never seen a President”I don't care who he is”stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want.... If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms.

Jews openly gloat about their control over America. And it extends beyond Sharon's aforementioned comments, bragging about his control over America. Indeed, one popular Jewish publication even had a caricature of President Bush drawn. It depicted him as a comical wooden puppet, pulled by Jewish strings.

These are the facts of the Jewish control in America. Anyone willing to spend a few hours in a large library looking into current editions of yearbooks on the radio and television, into directories of newspapers and magazines; into registers of corporations and their officers, such as Standard and Poors; and into biographical reference works can easily verify their accuracy. Much can also be verified by just using Google online.

The facts of Jewish media control are undeniable. According to 2000 US census figures, Jews make up only 2.5% of the total US population. Yet Jews own and control 98% of all US media. Such a massive takeover by a small minority didn't happen by chance. It was part of a long term Zionist plan to control American by brainwashing the minds of the public. By manipulating the masses who vote for and elect our corrupt politicans.

QUOTE
Not that any of this matters, he got his non-Aryan ass kicked.


Non-Aryan? Anyways, the only reason he lost was because he went to war with Russia during the winter, plus all the various countries attacking from the west. I'll admit that it was a foolish mistake on his behalf.
clowns789
Holocaust revisionists estimate between 500,000 and 1 million Jews died during that time.

But, as "the killer of his own people" said, "One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic."


QUOTE
YA. because, like, the jews ruled the world!


You may think its a joke, but the truth cannot be a joke.



Check out Who Rules America?
Tha Masta 420
While I don't agree with this whole ZOG thing,I do agree that Hitler was one of the greatest military geniuses in history,and the greatest military tactician of the 20th century.Unfortunately,due to this he developed a major ego,which eventually led to his downfall.If he could of let Stalingrad go,and sent his forces around it and on to Moscow,and let the rearward forces take care of Stalingrad once it was completely surrounded by German forces,he could of won the war in Russia.

Unfortunately he was so obsessed with toppling the city due to it being named in Stalin's honor that he did some very stupid things despite his commanders trying to prevent him from doing so.The most stupid thing he did,obviously,was try to fight the war during the harsh Russian winter,which the Nazi forces had never dealt with before,but the Russians lived in it and it was no problem for them.

The next most stupid thing he did was to not retreat from Stalingrad and regroup his forces.Had they retreated and regrouped they might of actually stood a chance against the Russian counter offensive,but the way things were the Nazi forces were spread way to thin to actually have any chance of defeating or even just stopping the massive Russian counter offensive.

So while Hitler was an unequaled military tactition,his ego was what ultimately destroyed the Third Reich.He could not accept a small defeat,a defeat that could of actually won the war for the Nazi's had they retreated and regrouped from it.
Qdeathstar
QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Mar 26 2006, 05:09 PM) [snapback]1122157[/snapback]

QUOTE

It doenst matter. I didnt say that he DID do those things JUST, I said that those things are what GAVE him power. v.v


Yeah? And so what? Even if it didn't give him power, he would still continue to do those things because was a National Socialist. That's what National Socialism is about.


He was allowed and convinced others to kill jews because he was a National Socialist. Well, I'll make sure to knock that group of my donations list XD.

QUOTE


QUOTE
How many jews did he kill then? What made those deaths justified... I dont care if he killed 1million or 6million. Its still wrong and in his case, evil. What makes the death of one Jewish child justified? They werent strapping bombs to theirselves or planning any rebellion.. 1million jews, or 6million, does it matter? not really.


I am estimating about 74,000. What made those deaths justified? Are you kidding me? What made the Jews taking advantage of a bad situation after WWI justified? What made them taking control of all the banks justified?


how did they "take advantage" over the situation... And what makes the fact that they were the only people interested in running banks in defeated germany bad...?

QUOTE
Evil my ass. If you think 74,000 deaths is some how evil then you have to acknowledge that all of human history is "EVIL".


Much of human history is evil...

QUOTE
JEWS declared war on Deutschland.


OH yes. roll2.gif with the weapons they had! So, why dont we kill the children who had nothing to with the threat! Ah hoy! XD ... please.

QUOTE
Are you to say that Hitler was the most evil person ever to set foot on this Earth while Zionist tyrants who have trod this world for 100 years with an iron fist continue their crimes against Palestinians and other Arabs? That sounds certainly evil to me and of course George W. Bush and Tony Blair supporting and helping out these Zionist war crimes. That sounds terribly EVIL to me.


Listen. the difference is that the terrorists actually attacked us.... and are obviously a threat. We are just too disorganized and to undisciplined not to fuck up. In Hitlers case he just decided to round up a bunch of jews and kill them because they didnt let him get into his fancy art school.

QUOTE

QUOTE
YOU do know that there is almost no difference between a rocket that can be used to put something in space and a rocket that can be used to carry an ICBM, right?


What is your point exactly? He used it for space experiments not for attacking other nations.


thats exactly what Iran "says" and we trust Iran, dont we. XD. My point is how do you know he ONLY used it to explore space, when any exploration into space rocketry is exploration into ICBM technology (atleast at that point)
QUOTE

QUOTE
XD. ORLY? evidence... but please, nothing from KKK.com or ThejewishConspiracy.org please ....


You know I can put a thousand XD's and ORLY? YARLY!!'s too. That doesn't really help the discussion, now does it?


yes, actaully it does. Because, your support of hitler is a joke. And im laughing at you, and it. o.o XD

QUOTE
The TRUTH cannot be biased.


DOnt be stupid. Of course it can. The only people who decide what the truth was were the people who won. The people who write down truth or talk about it have their own thoughts and predispostions. THeres no truth that isnt bias.


QUOTE
The director of homeland security Michael Chertoff is Jewish. Daniel Goldin, a Jew, has been in control of NASA since 1992.




One of Bush's Foreign Policy Advisors, Richard Perle, is a known Jew with a history of sending classified government documents to the Israeli Embassy and also worked for Soltam, an Israeli company which builds weapons. Yet, he is allowed to continue working in our government. A close friend of Perle's is Jewboy Paul Wolfowitz, Bush's Deputy Defense Secretary. This list just goes on. The Jews Robert Satloff and Elliott Abrams are National Security Council Advisors. Dov Zekheim, Under Secretary of Defense and Comptroller, reportedly has dual citizenship with Israel. Douglas Feith, Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon has even closer ties with Israel. He is closely associated with the Zionist Organization of America, and runs a law firm which has only one office located in Israel.

Marc Grossman, a Jew, is Bush's Under Secretary of State of Political Affairs. Richard Haass, Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at Large, is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. He likes to promote bombing Iraq, as does Robert Zoellick, another Jew (U.S. Trade Representative). Other Jews include Henry Kissinger and James Schlesinger (both pentagon advisors who advocate bombing Iraq). Steve Goldsmith, Senior Advisor to the President, makes frequent trips to Israel.

Mel Sembler President of the export-Import Bank of the United States is a Jew. Joshua Bolten Chief Policy Director is a Jew. Adam Goldman, the White House Special Liaison to the Jewish Community is a Jew. Joseph Gildenhorn, Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community. Christopher Gersten, Former Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition. He is married to Linda Chavez, Labor Secretary. Mark Weinberger, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury is a Jew. Samuel Bodman, Deputy Secretary of Commerce is a Jew. Bonnie Cohen, Under Secretary of State for Management is a Jew. Ruth Davis, Director of Foreign Service Institute is a Jew. Lincoln Bloomfield, Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs is a Jew. Jay Lefkowitz, General Counsel of the Office of Budget and Management is a Jew. David Frum, White House Speechwriter is a Jew.

President Nixon once stated "People have to realize that Jews in the U.S. control the entire information and propaganda machine, the large newspapers, the motion pictures, radio and television, and the big
companies. And there is a force we have to take into consideration."

Additionally, American politicians, for the most part, are controlled by Jewish plutocrats, many of whom reside in Israel, as well. This is why Americanpoliticians are hesitant to be critical of Israel. This is not some bizarre "anti-Semitic fantasy," as Jews would like some people to believe. Rather, it is a fact with which America has to admit. Indeed, as much of the Internet has heard by now, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon openly gloats about such control. On October 3, 2001, the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs noted something rather disturbing that Sharon said on Israeli public radio:

"We the Jewish people control America. And the Americans know it."

Paul Findley, a congressman from Illinois for 22 years, documented this fact quite well in his book They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israels Lobby. If there were no others who would corroborate Findleys findings, it would be easy to discredit him as simply an anti-Semite. However, he cites numerous other politicians who have also pointed out this disturbing matter.

Apparently, this is how it works: Jews are allowed to have dual-citizenship between the U.S. and Israel. America gives Israel $4 billion a year that it does not pay back (and this doesnt necessarily include military secrets and hardware, plus occasional bank-bailouts and other matters). The Jews who are dual-citizens take a small portion of this $4 billion and re-invest it in American politics, choosing U.S. politicians who are likely to support Israel. (It is believed that Israel has somewhere around 300 different political action committees working inside of America, led by Jews with dual-citizenship.) Aside from Findleys book, the book Stealth PACs also describes how some of these pro-Israeli groups use seemingly innocuous names to hide their pro-Israel agenda at American taxpayers expense.

How much has this unchecked support of Israel cost American taxpayers? The well-respected economist Dr. Thomas Stauffer stated that Americas financial loss due to its support of Israel is about $1.7 trillion in todays dollars, roughly one-third of America's deficit. Numerous political figures have gone on record about this insane support of Israel that some endorse, shown below.

In February 1957, Secretary of State John Foster Dulles promulgated, "I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews."

Likewise, when Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Brown a question:

How can we stop Israel from obtaining from the Congress more foreign aid than any other nation in the world?

To this, General Brown responded:

When they get tough-minded enough to set down the Jewish influence in this country and break that lobby. It is so strong, you wouldnt believe it. Now, we have the Israelis coming to us for equipment. We say we cant probably get the Congress to support a program like this. And they say, Dont worry about the Congress. We will take care of the Congress. This is somebody from another country. But they can do it.

When some Jews countered with the usual argument that Gen. Brown was merely an anti-Semite, General M.B. Twining, a hero of WWII and the Korean War who was Commander of the U.S. Air Force, reportedly told the
San Diego Union:

A group of powerful U.S. Jews have grotesquely distorted U.S. foreign policy in blind fanatic support of Israel, and Gen. Brown deserves praise, not criticism, for saying so. As head of our nations armed forces, he sees us--a nation of 200 million people--being dragooned into a disastrous war . . . by a ruthless lobby of Jewish-American extremists single-mindedly bent on enforcing their rule or ruin policy in the Middle East.

Admiral Thomas Moorer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff described this alarming pattern as well:

"I've never seen a President”I don't care who he is”stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want.... If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms.

Jews openly gloat about their control over America. And it extends beyond Sharon's aforementioned comments, bragging about his control over America. Indeed, one popular Jewish publication even had a caricature of President Bush drawn. It depicted him as a comical wooden puppet, pulled by Jewish strings.

These are the facts of the Jewish control in America. Anyone willing to spend a few hours in a large library looking into current editions of yearbooks on the radio and television, into directories of newspapers and magazines; into registers of corporations and their officers, such as Standard and Poors; and into biographical reference works can easily verify their accuracy. Much can also be verified by just using Google online.

The facts of Jewish media control are undeniable. According to 2000 US census figures, Jews make up only 2.5% of the total US population. Yet Jews own and control 98% of all US media. Such a massive takeover by a small minority didn't happen by chance. It was part of a long term Zionist plan to control American by brainwashing the minds of the public. By manipulating the masses who vote for and elect our corrupt politicans.


Nominates FIDO for the new COPY AND POST KING!

You do realize that the United States has national security interests in keeping isreal happy, and that it shouldnt be much of supprise when the united states keeps Isreal happy by sending them 4 million dollars or letting that little bit of spying take place. You know why they do it? Thats because Isreal is the only powerful middle eastern ally the United States has. ALSO! GUESS WHAT! The United States right this instance is taking steps to reduce their dependence on isreal. It isnt that we "love the jews" or that the "jews own us" if that were the case, I highly doubt that they would want us setting up bases in Afganistan and Iraq, and supporting elections in which Hammas was voted in as the Ruling party. Wake up buddy.
It is funny though, No jew has became president. hmm.
QUOTE

QUOTE
Not that any of this matters, he got his non-Aryan ass kicked.


Non-Aryan? Anyways, the only reason he lost was because he went to war with Russia during the winter, plus all the various countries attacking from the west. I'll admit that it was a foolish mistake on his behalf.


The only reason he lost because because he was stupid and arrogant.
Bain
QUOTE(mello_yello @ Mar 26 2006, 09:49 AM) [snapback]1121869[/snapback]

I think you'll find Hitler and the fascist movement had a worse affect on society than Tookie Williams...



DID I SAY IT DIDN’T? NO. SO SHUT UP.

QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Mar 26 2006, 10:32 AM) [snapback]1121881[/snapback]

He took a demilitarized, 0 pride, economic downfall nation into a world superpower in 15 years after WWI.


Besides the war, he was one of the greatest leaders in history for his own people.

QUOTE(CaldMagi @ Mar 26 2006, 10:42 AM) [snapback]1121889[/snapback]

Stalin > Hitler.



Stalin fucked up socially, politically, economically, and he was shocked like a mental case pussy for 10 days straight when Hitler attacked. HE < SHIT.

Fucking commie bullshit again.
I would like to see you move to live there at the time, or Cuba now for all your pro-commie bullshit.


Qdeathstar
QUOTE(Militant Bain @ Mar 26 2006, 11:51 PM) [snapback]1122380[/snapback]



QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Mar 26 2006, 10:32 AM) [snapback]1121881[/snapback]

He took a demilitarized, 0 pride, economic downfall nation into a world superpower in 15 years after WWI.


Besides the war, he was one of the greatest leaders in history for his own people.





Besides being delusional,* deciding mass extermination was the best way to go*, and starting world war two that set Germany back atleast 50 years* and precluded them from any chance at superpower status* he was one of the greatest leaders in history for his own people.



*fixed
Bain
QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ Mar 26 2006, 10:55 PM) [snapback]1122382[/snapback]

QUOTE(Militant Bain @ Mar 26 2006, 11:51 PM) [snapback]1122380[/snapback]



QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Mar 26 2006, 10:32 AM) [snapback]1121881[/snapback]

He took a demilitarized, 0 pride, economic downfall nation into a world superpower in 15 years after WWI.


Besides the war, he was one of the greatest leaders in history for his own people.





Besides being delusional,* deciding mass extermination was the best way to go*, and starting world war two that set Germany back atleast 50 years* and precluded them from any chance at superpower status* he was one of the greatest leaders in history for his own people.



*fixed


The war.............

Included all of that so thanks for wasting my time.

50 years? Germany's economy was made great by the allies.

Except for the fucking Soviet side.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
Hitler's political career centred around the war and the holocaust. The only reason he got any power was by rallying his people against "world jewry".

And like I say, he didn't do well for the economy. He built it up and through his inability to listen to his commanders he knocked it down further than it was before, split the country literally into two, and killed himself. The war was what his leadership entailed: There is no "apart from the war" in his case.
Qdeathstar
QUOTE(Militant Bain @ Mar 27 2006, 12:10 AM) [snapback]1122396[/snapback]



The war.............

Included all of that so thanks for wasting my time.

50 years? Germany's economy was made great by the allies.

Except for the fucking Soviet side.



YA RLY! But they would have been a lot better off without those things, and probably would have been a superpower.
Bain
QUOTE(mello_yello @ Mar 27 2006, 12:47 PM) [snapback]1122632[/snapback]

Hitler's political career centred around the war and the holocaust. The only reason he got any power was by rallying his people against "world jewry".

And like I say, he didn't do well for the economy. He built it up and through his inability to listen to his commanders he knocked it down further than it was before, split the country literally into two, and killed himself. The war was what his leadership entailed: There is no "apart from the war" in his case.



If he never went to war, and just continued normally, it would be one of the most properous nations.


Dont give me this bullshit as if I cant talk about his career before 1939.
Fido 14
QUOTE
He was allowed and convinced others to kill jews because he was a National Socialist. Well, I'll make sure to knock that group of my donations list XD.


National Socialism is about preserving a nation and strengthening it. The Jews were out to destroy Germany with their greed just like they were with America. As I said before, Hitler planned to ship them to Madagascar. They refused since they're so superior and think that nothing can happen to themselves. Well look where that got them?

QUOTE
how did they "take advantage" over the situation... And what makes the fact that they were the only people interested in running banks in defeated germany bad...?


They went to the streets and bartered. All Germans were very poor after WWI. The Jews did not care and instead, the first thing that came to their mind was money. They made money off of poor Germans by selling cheap things to them for high prices. Since a lot of Germans were out of power after WWI, Jews got even more power.

QUOTE
Much of human history is evil...


Alright then shut up. Hitler is nothing compared to all the other evildoers.

QUOTE
OH yes. roll2.gif with the weapons they had! So, why dont we kill the children who had nothing to with the threat! Ah hoy! XD ... please.


They did and it is a fact. Judea declared war on Germany. They boycotted goods that were in Germany. It was mentioned in the Judea Declares War video with factual proof.

QUOTE
Listen. the difference is that the terrorists actually attacked us.... and are obviously a threat. We are just too disorganized and to undisciplined not to fuck up. In Hitlers case he just decided to round up a bunch of jews and kill them because they didnt let him get into his fancy art school.


Hahaha, look at QD actually still believing in the neo-cons' myth. Do you actually believe terrorists attacked us when there's factual proof in documentaries that prove there was demolition involved. Hitler killed Jews because they wouldn't let him into an art school? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and is only made up by delusional people such as yourself to try and find some stupid reason on how to demonize Adolf Hitler.

QUOTE
thats exactly what Iran "says" and we trust Iran, dont we. XD. My point is how do you know he ONLY used it to explore space, when any exploration into space rocketry is exploration into ICBM technology (atleast at that point)


I trust Iran. I don't know where you get the fact that "all" people don't trust Iran as you just used the keyword "we". Its only paranoid people like you who have been brainwashed by the neo-cons to believe that at any moment, a towelhead will come behind you and blow you up. When in reality, that shit only goes down in the middle east.

QUOTE
yes, actaully it does. Because, your support of hitler is a joke. And im laughing at you, and it. o.o XD


And I pity your severe indoctrination of lies.

QUOTE
DOnt be stupid. Of course it can. The only people who decide what the truth was were the people who won. The people who write down truth or talk about it have their own thoughts and predispostions. THeres no truth that isnt bias.


Are you serious? The truth CANNOT be biased. Statistics and facts cannot be biased. By your logic, your own "facts" of the holocaust can be biased.

QUOTE
Nominates FIDO for the new COPY AND POST KING!

You do realize that the United States has national security interests in keeping isreal happy, and that it shouldnt be much of supprise when the united states keeps Isreal happy by sending them 4 million dollars or letting that little bit of spying take place. You know why they do it? Thats because Isreal is the only powerful middle eastern ally the United States has. ALSO! GUESS WHAT! The United States right this instance is taking steps to reduce their dependence on isreal. It isnt that we "love the jews" or that the "jews own us" if that were the case, I highly doubt that they would want us setting up bases in Afganistan and Iraq, and supporting elections in which Hammas was voted in as the Ruling party. Wake up buddy.
It is funny though, No jew has became president. hmm.


What kind of crock of shit is that? I just gave you all the information needed to prove that the U.S. is controlled by Jews and you're still oblivious to the truth. You're telling me to wake up when you're still in a dormant state of mind that refuses to acknowledge the truth? You WAKE UP and realize that Jews control this nation. There are no Jewish presidents for the same reason there are no hispanic, black presidents. The Jews choose to have an Anglo-Saxon president in charge of the nation because for the most part, white people will listen to a white president. Put a black president or hispanic president and see how many white people will listen to their government anymore. That is why I encourage a black or hispanic to become president (which I know won't happen) so whites won't listen to their government anymore and break loose from the puppet strings.

QUOTE

The only reason he lost because because he was stupid and arrogant.


Oh wow, how wonderful. Someone who hates Hitler so much doesn't even know anything about him or the true reason why Hitler lost the war. I suggest reading The Masta 420's post explaining how Adolf Hitler lost the war http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/forums/index...pic=68653&st=0#.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
QUOTE(Militant Bain @ Mar 27 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]1122703[/snapback]

QUOTE(mello_yello @ Mar 27 2006, 12:47 PM) [snapback]1122632[/snapback]

Hitler's political career centred around the war and the holocaust. The only reason he got any power was by rallying his people against "world jewry".

And like I say, he didn't do well for the economy. He built it up and through his inability to listen to his commanders he knocked it down further than it was before, split the country literally into two, and killed himself. The war was what his leadership entailed: There is no "apart from the war" in his case.



If he never went to war, and just continued normally, it would be one of the most properous nations.


Dont give me this bullshit as if I cant talk about his career before 1939.
The nationalism he manufactured was won by the promise of dead jews and strong panzers. Without the war his pre-1939 political career would have been a failure.
Stead
hrmm, well my original post was more, i was shocked at the website especially that one with the 2 girls, didn't expet a crazy hitler war!

anyway, i agree with one of fido's earlier points about the good things hitler achieved, ... but i don't belive he was responsible for all the evil that came out of nazi germany, well this will proberbly sound really silly, but anywho, i read a abook called 'genisis' its a book basically a story offering an explanation to certain unexplained things (didn't think i would like it, but it was really gripping), and the crazy thing is, everything in the book is based on fact and actual historic events, but from an impression i got, it wasn't hitler who wanted this perfect socitey, it was some who influenced him heavily, like i said i know its not true, but the book makes you question everything you've ever thought of, makes you look in the world a different way, i recommened it to anyone!

I wouldn't say it would make me want to cleanse the world however, i have to admit the idea makes sence i suppose, but the problem is, if this did happen, all i belive would happen, would be that the newly formed world, would have a population and some people would start to question this new world, and then it would divide, again, after reading that book, one of the reasons i think the downfall of the natzi's was not the idea, but the fact that people in power disagreed with one another, and huge mistakes were made,

about this whole jewish thing, saying all jew's are evil is like saying all germans are loyal hitler supporters, when neither are true, so why belive they are? ... if everyone stemed from adam and eve, why are tehre so many religions now, even if that was true, its proberbly because peopel got into an argument and questioned the 'faith' and all went there seperate ways and decided to start wars on peopel who disagreed with them.

QUOTE
DOnt be stupid. Of course it can. The only people who decide what the truth was were the people who won. The people who write down truth or talk about it have their own thoughts and predispostions. THeres no truth that isnt bias.


i totally accept this as a truth, take history, read history written from different authors, and notice how they never seem to match up as a whole? facts don't mean anything, how does one know the facts aren't made up? unless you do these studies yourself, or was there at the time, how can anything ever been proven, all we can do is trust the most trustworthy seeming person

^related to this truth thing, in an unrelated way, there isn't one ameircan racing car in nascar or any other american racing events, most of them come from briton, even ferrari's are designed in briton, now that seems crazy idea to me, but its supposidly true, but how can i know this is true without seeing first hand logs of everything related to this, also, how can i trust the logs are true? and how do i know this, because i watched a doctumentry on tv, so it must be true?

hrmm , my original post was more concerned about what people thought of that site, a 13 year old girl saying a race war would be a good thing? who at 13 should be thinking that this is a good thing? and how come neither of them seem to question this, they've been taught this is correct, but they aren't taught what could happen if action was taken, i was reading through some of the posts in the forums, and one thread was dedicated on how to make black people feel uncomfortable in a white area and get them evicted! how come people exist like that in this day and age?

Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
Until a certain age you say what your parents think.
Fido 14
QUOTE(mello_yello @ Mar 27 2006, 10:29 PM) [snapback]1123062[/snapback]

Until a certain age you say what your parents think.


Oh and that is the magical reason? That logic is tremendously bogus. There is a cause and effect to everything. Saying people are racially aware just because their parents tell them to be is baloney. Grow up and be pragmatic.

QUOTE
hrmm , my original post was more concerned about what people thought of that site, a 13 year old girl saying a race war would be a good thing? who at 13 should be thinking that this is a good thing? and how come neither of them seem to question this, they've been taught this is correct, but they aren't taught what could happen if action was taken, i was reading through some of the posts in the forums, and one thread was dedicated on how to make black people feel uncomfortable in a white area and get them evicted! how come people exist like that in this day and age?


Or how come black gang bangers have such a hatred for white people? What happened to "Kill whitey!"? Or all the rap lyrics dedicating murder of white people. You may think that all the "racists" are white people since that's what you see on the television, hear in schools, and see on the internet. Why don't you go to a black ghetto or any other black community and you'll see how welcome you'll feel. I see nothing wrong with these girls. I consider them lucky to be taught from an early age on being racially aware instead of finding out the hard way in society. I'm sure there's more kids like them, but the only reason these two girls are infamous is because they're singers. Race war would be a good thing as it is the only way of fixing this nation. I'd recommend a revolution first then a race war.
Qdeathstar
QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Mar 27 2006, 05:20 PM) [snapback]1122852[/snapback]

QUOTE
He was allowed and convinced others to kill jews because he was a National Socialist. Well, I'll make sure to knock that group of my donations list XD.


National Socialism is about preserving a nation and strengthening it. The Jews were out to destroy Germany with their greed just like they were with America. As I said before, Hitler planned to ship them to Madagascar. They refused since they're so superior and think that nothing can happen to themselves. Well look where that got them?


where is your proof that teh JEWS were out to destroy Madagascar... roll2.gif

QUOTE

QUOTE
how did they "take advantage" over the situation... And what makes the fact that they were the only people interested in running banks in defeated germany bad...?


They went to the streets and bartered. All Germans were very poor after WWI. The Jews did not care and instead, the first thing that came to their mind was money. They made money off of poor Germans by selling cheap things to them for high prices. Since a lot of Germans were out of power after WWI, Jews got even more power.



Listen, Going to the streets and bartering, creating business, and operating banks in a bankrupt country IS NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE of anyone, its helping them. As far as jews selling things for high prices to the "poor white man" XD?, why didnt the poor white man buy goods from someone else, was he a fucking retard?

QUOTE


QUOTE
Much of human history is evil...


Alright then shut up. Hitler is nothing compared to all the other evildoers.


Which are? Just so we can compare. He can compare to the crusades... american slavery, ect... And id say he is worse.

QUOTE


QUOTE
OH yes. roll2.gif with the weapons they had! So, why dont we kill the children who had nothing to with the threat! Ah hoy! XD ... please.


They did and it is a fact. Judea declared war on Germany. They boycotted goods that were in Germany. It was mentioned in the Judea Declares War video with factual proof.


What does that have to do with the jews haveing an cache or justify the killing of innoncent jewish children?

QUOTE


QUOTE
Listen. the difference is that the terrorists actually attacked us.... and are obviously a threat. We are just too disorganized and to undisciplined not to fuck up. In Hitlers case he just decided to round up a bunch of jews and kill them because they didnt let him get into his fancy art school.


Hahaha, look at QD actually still believing in the neo-cons' myth. Do you actually believe terrorists attacked us when there's factual proof in documentaries that prove there was demolition involved. Hitler killed Jews because they wouldn't let him into an art school? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and is only made up by delusional people such as yourself to try and find some stupid reason on how to demonize Adolf Hitler.

Listen, I think your the one whose been brainwashed here...
QUOTE


QUOTE
thats exactly what Iran "says" and we trust Iran, dont we. XD. My point is how do you know he ONLY used it to explore space, when any exploration into space rocketry is exploration into ICBM technology (atleast at that point)


I trust Iran. I don't know where you get the fact that "all" people don't trust Iran as you just used the keyword "we". Its only paranoid people like you who have been brainwashed by the neo-cons to believe that at any moment, a towelhead will come behind you and blow you up. When in reality, that shit only goes down in the middle east.
QUOTE


well in that case, your an idiot if you really believe Iran has no interest in Nuclear Weapons...


QUOTE
yes, actaully it does. Because, your support of hitler is a joke. And im laughing at you, and it. o.o XD


And I pity your severe indoctrination of lies.
QUOTE


Oh yes, this neocon conspiracy... be more creative roll2.gif Stop using the words you read on Anarchist.com FFS.


QUOTE
DOnt be stupid. Of course it can. The only people who decide what the truth was were the people who won. The people who write down truth or talk about it have their own thoughts and predispostions. THeres no truth that isnt bias.


Are you serious? The truth CANNOT be biased. Statistics and facts cannot be biased. By your logic, your own "facts" of the holocaust can be biased.


of course they can. I neve said they couldnt. However, Im sure that 1million isa lot closer to the truth than 75k is...

Statistics are bias, ALL THE TIME, do you know how people "make statistics"? If you did, then you'd clearly know they are, from the way they are FORMED, bias. As far as fact's go, a lot of things people say are facts, really aren't facts. For example, some say that gravity is a FACT, other people think its not quite a fact andthat there are other forces at work. Obviously the two sides are BIAS a certain way.. facts can be bias.

QUOTE

QUOTE
Nominates FIDO for the new COPY AND POST KING!

You do realize that the United States has national security interests in keeping isreal happy, and that it shouldnt be much of supprise when the united states keeps Isreal happy by sending them 4 million dollars or letting that little bit of spying take place. You know why they do it? Thats because Isreal is the only powerful middle eastern ally the United States has. ALSO! GUESS WHAT! The United States right this instance is taking steps to reduce their dependence on isreal. It isnt that we "love the jews" or that the "jews own us" if that were the case, I highly doubt that they would want us setting up bases in Afganistan and Iraq, and supporting elections in which Hammas was voted in as the Ruling party. Wake up buddy.
It is funny though, No jew has became president. hmm.


What kind of crock of shit is that? I just gave you all the information needed to prove that the U.S. is controlled by Jews and you're still oblivious to the truth. You're telling me to wake up when you're still in a dormant state of mind that refuses to acknowledge the truth? You WAKE UP and realize that Jews control this nation. There are no Jewish presidents for the same reason there are no hispanic, black presidents. The Jews choose to have an Anglo-Saxon president in charge of the nation because for the most part, white people will listen to a white president. Put a black president or hispanic president and see how many white people will listen to their government anymore. That is why I encourage a black or hispanic to become president (which I know won't happen) so whites won't listen to their government anymore and break loose from the puppet strings.


You uh, didnt give any evidence.. Just propoganda. You failed to indentify one repudable source, and since your the one with something to prove, I SUGGEST YOU GET ON IT.
QUOTE

QUOTE

The only reason he lost because because he was stupid and arrogant.


Oh wow, how wonderful. Someone who hates Hitler so much doesn't even know anything about him or the true reason why Hitler lost the war. I suggest reading The Masta 420's post explaining how Adolf Hitler lost the war http://www.gta-sanandreas.com/forums/index...pic=68653&st=0#.


I got it. I was bouncing off of your post saying that " The only reason he lost the war was because he went to fight Russia in the wenter". 1. That is stupid, fighting Russian in the winter XD. and 2. It is arrogant to think you'd win in the winter against the home team.. pfft.
Tha Masta 420
He wasn't really arrogant for waging the war during the winter,he didn't really have a choice,although it was kind of stupid.According to the Nazi's intelligence the Russians were building up a huge defense force,which they were,and if they had waited till after the winter the Russians would of set up an impenetrable defence line.

That massive force was the Russian "Armored Wave",as referred to by the German forces that survived it,that washed over the German forces during the whole Stalingrad fiasco,which consisted of over 1,700,000 Soviet troops,three whole armies-1st Guards Army, 5th Tank Army, and 21st Army, including a total of 18 infantry divisions, eight tank brigades, two motorized brigades, six cavalry divisions and one anti-tank brigade.The counter attack could be heard coming over 100 miles ahead of the actual forces,by the 3rd Romanian Army holding the northern flank of the German 6th Army Group,which managed a miraculous one day defense against the Russians before being over run,and literally crushed under the Russian tank treads.That was the beginning of the end for the Third Reich.

Thousands of Russian tanks and many infantry divisions,actually two armies,moved in from the south in a pincer movement,literally crushing the Romanian 4th Army,mainly cavalry units, that were unlucky enough to be in their way,and met up at Kalach two days later,completely surrounding Stalingrad and about 250,000 German,Romanian and Croatian soldiers.

The German army chiefs wanted to set up a new offensive to the west of the Don,but Hermann Goring instead said it was possible for the Luftwaffe to supply the encircled 6th Army Group,and provide an air barrage to help them hold out against the Soviets while a relief force could be assembled to break through the Soviet's forces.A tactic that had worked successfully a year earlier at Demyansk,but on a much smaller scale.Hitler wouldn't leave the 6th Army Group to the Soviet's as it was the largest army in the Nazi forces,more than twice the size of any other army group,so with Goring's assurance that it could be done,Hitler backed his plan,which was stupid,but he had no way of knowing that the Soviet's air defences were so strong,as intelligence from the field mentioned nothing of it.

Obviously the Luftwaffe was practically obliterated in this operation,and the few planes that made it into Stalingrad to deliver supplies were literally swarmed by the desperate,starving and freezing German force's who actually were killing each other to try and get onto the planes,and usually had to take off before even coming to a complete stop,often running over soldiers who refused to get out of the way,and with soldiers hanging off the wings and wheels until they froze at higher altitude and fell to their deaths.

So while Hitler did make a few rather stupid mistakes,mainly not retreating from Stalingrad before the Russain's could trap the 6th Army Group there,it wasn't arrogance or even really stupidity,it was lack of good intelligence on the Soviet Force's strength that did them in,which you can hardly blame on Hitler himself.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
You know, Christian owned businesses are highly prominent in America right now. They charge high prices for gas because they can, to the detriment of the state and private individuals.

Why don't we offer to deport all Christians, and if they refuse, kill them all?
Fido 14
QUOTE(mello_yello @ Mar 28 2006, 12:37 PM) [snapback]1123473[/snapback]

You know, Christian owned businesses are highly prominent in America right now. They charge high prices for gas because they can, to the detriment of the state and private individuals.

Why don't we offer to deport all Christians, and if they refuse, kill them all?


I agree. There's a difference between true Christians and Judeo-Christians though. But please, Jews own WAY more than stupid brainwashed Christians. The majority of modern Christians kiss the Jews' asses and are secretly Judeo-Christians. So I could care less about them. By the way, I'll be responding to QD's post later.
Qdeathstar
I dont actaully think there is a christian gas store O.o
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
Well jewish companies in 1930s Germany didn't necessarily say "JEW PHARMACEUTICALS" or whatever, but they held high positions.
Qdeathstar
I bet if they did label the store "JEW PHARMACEUTICALS" the war would never have happend. mad.gif
Fido 14
QUOTE
where is your proof that teh JEWS were out to destroy Madagascar...


What are you talking about? That's not even what I said. I said that Hitler was planning on shipping the Jews to Madagascar. The Jews refused and then they started a nationwide boycott in Germany. Then they declared war on Germany as I've been saying before; Judea Declared War.

QUOTE
Listen, Going to the streets and bartering, creating business, and operating banks in a bankrupt country IS NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE of anyone, its helping them. As far as jews selling things for high prices to the "poor white man" XD?, why didnt the poor white man buy goods from someone else, was he a fucking retard?


Helping them? So you consider Jews that take over high positions in a nation and have strong Zionist beliefs helping the German people? No wonder you have no problem with the U.S. government. They've had those positions before the Germans were poor after WWI. They took advantage of the Germans after WWI because they went on the streets and they sold their goods to them for way higher prices. The Germans didn't buy stuff from anyone else because there was no one else. They were desperate and the Jews were right there with the goods.

QUOTE
Which are? Just so we can compare. He can compare to the crusades... american slavery, ect... And id say he is worse.


What a typical guilty white's mindset. To think that the worst things that ever happened on this Earth were slavery, National Socialists, and the crusades against the poor little innocent Muslims. Sorry, but you need to step into reality. First of all, I don't consider 74,000-100,000 deaths or along that range that bad compared to all the ZIONIST WAR CRIMES that are committed day in and day out in these modern times against Palestinians in the Middle East shown in the Zionist War Crimes video that I presented a while ago. Especially when there weren't even cruel procedures of death used by the National Socialists. That's right, the burning jews and gas chambers are myths and are proven in JDW. Lets look at Genghis Khan and Attila the Hun and look at all the atrocities they have committed against Europe and China. What about the wicked acts by the Muslim Turks who have devastated a thriving great Christian city Constantinople which belonged to the Greeks and turned it into Istanbul with their Mosques? Then they had the Greeks under 400 years of slavery until the Greeks revolted. A Greek genocide that no one even knows about where 350,000 Greeks were killed and vandalisms against Eastern Orthodox Churches. How about another vicious atrocity committed by the Turks where they killed off 2,000,000 Armenians and even used the hanging method to kill a lot of them. But somehow this FAKE Jewish genocide is more important than the Greek and Armenian genocides.

QUOTE
What does that have to do with the jews haveing an cache or justify the killing of innoncent jewish children?


You claim that they were innocent, but they were avid readers of the Talmud. And if you ever read the Talmud or even excerpts from the Talmud then you'd know that even Jewish children have the knowledge to to do mischievous things since Jewish children are forced to read the Talmud from a very young age and continue reading it. This was to stop the seed of terror and to stop them from teaching evil to their next generations. Maybe they wouldn't have anything to do with it if the Jewish parents simply agreed to be shipped to Madagascar.

QUOTE

Listen, I think your the one whose been brainwashed here...


Am I the one whose been brainwashed? All my life I've been taught to think one way throughout my whole time in school. Now that I look back at it, I see how clever these Jews were. To indoctrinate children from a young age. I remember the "holocaust" since 5th grade, and that's some pretty heavy brainwashing if you ask me since they continue to teach the same thing over and over every year. Anyways, I believed the baloney and never even question anything since I thought that teachers knew best and that they should always be right. Luckily for me, I realize that teachers aren't the best source of information now that I look back. So I guess you are right to an extent, that I was brainwashed when I was younger to think only one way. Am I brainwashed right now? Definitely not. Since I looked both ways and saw the correct way that had realistic evidence. It is you who is brainwashed, who can't bear the thought of being open-minded and looking at things two ways instead of one that has been indoctrinated inside of you throughout your whole life.

QUOTE

of course they can. I neve said they couldnt. However, Im sure that 1million isa lot closer to the truth than 75k is...

Statistics are bias, ALL THE TIME, do you know how people "make statistics"? If you did, then you'd clearly know they are, from the way they are FORMED, bias. As far as fact's go, a lot of things people say are facts, really aren't facts. For example, some say that gravity is a FACT, other people think its not quite a fact andthat there are other forces at work. Obviously the two sides are BIAS a certain way.. facts can be bias.


I can understand how someone could take facts and then add a little bit of his own persuasion into it so that the reader can join his political group, organization, or whatever. But facts are facts and if someone just says the plain facts then there's nothing to argue about.

QUOTE
You uh, didnt give any evidence.. Just propoganda. You failed to indentify one repudable source, and since your the one with something to prove, I SUGGEST YOU GET ON IT.


I've already showed you the facts. You laughed before on how Jews control the U.S. Then I showed you all the high ranks of the U.S. and they all turned out to be Jewish. If you don't know the ethnicity of the high ranked people in your own country then you're not a patriot and its common knowledge. Hell, you can even tell by some of their names that they're Jewish even without any background information. I was hoping a patriot like you would know the ethnicity of his own leaders, but I guess its not common knowledge to you. I've also showed you the facts on who controls the U.S. media. You can't call the facts propaganda.

QUOTE
I got it. I was bouncing off of your post saying that " The only reason he lost the war was because he went to fight Russia in the wenter". 1. That is stupid, fighting Russian in the winter XD. and 2. It is arrogant to think you'd win in the winter against the home team.. pfft.


Well I do agree with you that it was a mistake on Hitler's behalf to attack Russia at that stage of time, but Tha Masta 420's post below your post explains perfectly why he did it. It definitely wasn't because he was "arrogant."
Stead
well, anywho

about my post, i didn't say i belive only whites are racist, and i have been in black dominant areas, and didn't feel safe, but i can't see how white people saying black people are the evil race, and black people saying white peopel are the evil race are any different from one another, i'm not defending black people as is i'm not defending white people either, to me we are the same, just having different races gives us more jokes to tell when we're out tongue.gif if there was a race war, would it matter who win's, or would it just matter that only one race would exist to so there are now no conflicts between races?

also, i always thought the germany's attack failed because of russia's supeior miltiary hardware, i.e. russia's stuff didn't freeze over as it was designed to be used in the cold, but germany's tanks guns etc weren't designed to be able to handle such extreme conditions.

with the anti white thing tho, if i was so narrowminded to accept that times change, and that it had been the other way round, and black people had enslaved white people as white people seemed to look dirtier a lot easier than black people (just like with cars...) i'd proberbly be pissed at black people for that, and want to fight back too, as i'm sure thats how the current racist black people are now, they're pissed because years ago they were slaves....and for some reason tehy can't accept they've won and the times have changed.

just out of interest, (for fido) what are worse, jews or black people? as i see your reasons for the jew thing, but for the black people thing, i can't really understand the hatred other than the fact they appear different.
Fido 14
QUOTE
just out of interest, (for fido) what are worse, jews or black people? as i see your reasons for the jew thing, but for the black people thing, i can't really understand the hatred other than the fact they appear different.


I believe Jews are worse only because they're the ones behind it all. There are reasons for the African Americans as well though. First of all, they play the whole race card and always get their way with reverse discrimination. They can call us "whitey", "cracka", "white boy", "rednecks" and get away with it when in reality, those are racial slurs and should be justified the same way as if a white person called a black person a "nigger". They can all get welfare with ease, food stamps, affirmative action, etc. Besides that, the majority of them are criminals. I know you're going to give this "ohh, not all of them are criminals!". Guess what? I said the majority of them are criminals. I don't have time to look and and pick out which ones are good as that is not my job. If they have a huge problem within their own race then it is not my job to sort it out, but their job. Let them fix their own race and if they can be civilized people then I'll respect them. That is why I respect certain African American individuals who know the problem such as Bill Cosby and Louis Farrakhan. I can't really blame them that much though. The only people I have to truly blame are white people who are so gullible nowadays and do nothing about the huge situations going around them. Its either because they're scared or don't even know what's going on from being so gullible to listening to the politically correct. Our forefathers would be so proud.
Qdeathstar
ok, let me sumerize this topic for you.


Hitler Sucks, Fido thinks hitlers cool and that the jews are taking over the world.

Next topic please.
Fido 14
QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ Mar 29 2006, 10:36 PM) [snapback]1124207[/snapback]

ok, let me sumerize this topic for you.


Hitler Sucks, Fido thinks hitlers cool and that the jews are taking over the world.

Next topic please.


So this is what it all comes down to. You just saying "Hitler Sucks" despite the facts that I've provided and all criteria I've displayed. Oh well, thanks for the debate, you ignorant person. roll2.gif
Bain
QUOTE(mello_yello @ Mar 27 2006, 06:03 PM) [snapback]1122928[/snapback]

QUOTE(Militant Bain @ Mar 27 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]1122703[/snapback]

QUOTE(mello_yello @ Mar 27 2006, 12:47 PM) [snapback]1122632[/snapback]

Hitler's political career centred around the war and the holocaust. The only reason he got any power was by rallying his people against "world jewry".

And like I say, he didn't do well for the economy. He built it up and through his inability to listen to his commanders he knocked it down further than it was before, split the country literally into two, and killed himself. The war was what his leadership entailed: There is no "apart from the war" in his case.



If he never went to war, and just continued normally, it would be one of the most properous nations.


Dont give me this bullshit as if I cant talk about his career before 1939.
The nationalism he manufactured was won by the promise of dead jews and strong panzers. Without the war his pre-1939 political career would have been a failure.


........oh yes, because he promised the people he would start the second world war at that point!!!






























GENIUS AGAIN MELLO, GENIUS


*COMMITS SUICIDE*
Qdeathstar
QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Mar 29 2006, 11:55 PM) [snapback]1124269[/snapback]

QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ Mar 29 2006, 10:36 PM) [snapback]1124207[/snapback]

ok, let me sumerize this topic for you.


Hitler Sucks, Fido thinks hitlers cool and that the jews are taking over the world.

Next topic please.


So this is what it all comes down to. You just saying "Hitler Sucks" despite the facts that I've provided and all criteria I've displayed. Oh well, thanks for the debate, you ignorant person. roll2.gif



theres no point in arguing with a molded brick.
Fido 14
QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ Mar 30 2006, 08:30 AM) [snapback]1124379[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Mar 29 2006, 11:55 PM) [snapback]1124269[/snapback]

QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ Mar 29 2006, 10:36 PM) [snapback]1124207[/snapback]

ok, let me sumerize this topic for you.


Hitler Sucks, Fido thinks hitlers cool and that the jews are taking over the world.

Next topic please.


So this is what it all comes down to. You just saying "Hitler Sucks" despite the facts that I've provided and all criteria I've displayed. Oh well, thanks for the debate, you ignorant person. roll2.gif



theres no point in arguing with a molded brick.


Very typical of a brainwashed person. To just throw any insult and just call it a day when evidence and facts are provided from the opposing view. Now you show your true colors and I realize what a waste of time it was to show you my facts and actually try and show you some sense. When you wake up (which I doubt) then you can come back and talk to me.
Bain
Those type of people will be left flailing in the wind when true Americans some day take power.
Lord Steve0
By true americans would you be refering to the native american indians?

Or are you refering to the mongrel, cross-bred population of americans that fills your nation these days?
Bain
I'm refering to any person, black, white, hispanic, asian, native, mermaid, mole man, any person who is willing to stand up and fight, and any person who is willing to put the interests of America before Europe, Asia, Africa, the middle east, South America, and their own pockets. I am talking about a leader who will raise the lower class and middle class instead of exploiting them, and Im talking about a leader who will not go to war and send Americans to die for his own bank book and masters. This leader will keep America as America and will not turn it into a fucking breeding ground for ungrateful pieces of shit who spit on this country and its sacrificers every chance they get, at home, or across the ocean in countries like Iran, Britain, Israel, Colombia, North Korea, and many more.
Qdeathstar
QUOTE(Militant Bain @ Mar 30 2006, 03:43 PM) [snapback]1124562[/snapback]

Those type of people will be left flailing in the wind when true Americans some day take power.


rolleyes.gif The coversation is going around in circles, and neither side is going to budge. NTP.
Bain
Its going around in circles because people present points, and you insult them.

Nice debate tactic.
Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester
He earned his extra powers from saying he'd start wars against jews...

I can't wait for this socialist-fascist-nationalist-capitalist-egotist to take power in America, it sounds like a fun way for China to become more powerful.
Fido 14
QUOTE(mello_yello @ Mar 30 2006, 07:33 PM) [snapback]1124677[/snapback]

He earned his extra powers from saying he'd start wars against jews...

I can't wait for this socialist-fascist-nationalist-capitalist-egotist to take power in America, it sounds like a fun way for China to become more powerful.


National Socialists are against Capitalism as well. Get your facts straight and we're not socialists.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2014 Invision Power Services, Inc.