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post Feb 11 2011, 08:11 PM
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Is this a good thing? Doesn't this just create a vacuum to be filled with Islamic Fascists only concerned with invading Israel? I'm guessing, 10-15 years from now, if Egyptian government is replaced with a Muslim leader, we will see another conflict [Egypt] with Israel. The guy might have been a little corrupt with money, and he might have oppressed political rivals to remain in power, but he worked diligently for peace in the Middle East, wiped out their debt and, for the last ten years, the Egyptian economy has been rising. I think this is kind of dark moment in their history, but what do you think?


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post Feb 14 2011, 09:07 AM
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I generally don't support dictators (of course), but in some cases a dictator isn't so bad. In the case with Egypt and Mubarak, it stabilized the region because he respected Israel and was an ally to USA. And Egypt was part of the Gaza blocade as well. Who knows what the next regime will be like. The islamic brotherhood might be moderate, but islamists are islamists.

But maybe the generals will enjoy the power too much to step down later. It's a bit naive to trust them completely.


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QUOTE (demon @ Feb 14 2011, 03:07 AM) *
I generally don't support dictators (of course), but in some cases a dictator isn't so bad. In the case with Egypt and Mubarak, it stabilized the region because he respected Israel and was an ally to USA. And Egypt was part of the Gaza blocade as well. Who knows what the next regime will be like. The islamic brotherhood might be moderate, but islamists are islamists.

But maybe the generals will enjoy the power too much to step down later. It's a bit naive to trust them completely.

Again, the bolded part is why I have an issue with this. Why is it that if America likes someone, they have to stay in power, but if the USA hates someone (see Hussein, Sadam) they have to go? Why is that? And answer me this: why is it that if some country other than the USA has a government we don't like it has to change, but if they have a government that we like and nobody else does it has to stay the same? Why can't all these other countries go through what we went through in our infancy?

Yes, I know we had help in the beginning. But only from a military standpoint. We were still responsible for setting up our own government, and determining our own laws, and responding to the citizens of our country. After we got up and running and had our own military, everybody else let us do our thing. And don't tell me that we do the same thing. If you do, I'll refer you to Iraq. Bush stated "Major conflict in Iraq has ended" back in 2003, but we STILL have troops over there. Afghanistan has their own government now, and we STILL have troops over there. Tell me: how many countries have their troops stationed in the US? That's right - none. So why do we have to have our troops all stationed everywhere else in the world?


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