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post Aug 3 2010, 03:45 PM
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i know GTA is pretty much known for the whole "rags to riches" routine. but what about for the next GTA, u start out with riches and then go to rags and then have to work your way back up? i could just imagine the next protagonist living in one of those houses on Big Horn Drive in Alderney with the sports cars and what not. has millions of dollars, running some criminal syndicate of some kind and then, next thing you know, he's living in the kinda of apt Niko has on Mahesh and goes flat broke. i dont know, it just would seem like a change of setting, imo. i mean, with Niko, they really didnt follow the standard of setting when it comes to this. i read online that their goal for the storyline was for a "rags to better rags" kind of story and i think they made IV achieve that. but riches to rags is a concept i would like to see them do
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QUOTE (gamingismylife @ Aug 3 2010, 04:45 PM) *
i know GTA is pretty much known for the whole "rags to riches" routine. but what about for the next GTA, u start out with riches and then go to rags and then have to work your way back up? i could just imagine the next protagonist living in one of those houses on Big Horn Drive in Alderney with the sports cars and what not. has millions of dollars, running some criminal syndicate of some kind and then, next thing you know, he's living in the kinda of apt Niko has on Mahesh and goes flat broke. i dont know, it just would seem like a change of setting, imo. i mean, with Niko, they really didnt follow the standard of setting when it comes to this. i read online that their goal for the storyline was for a "rags to better rags" kind of story and i think they made IV achieve that. but riches to rags is a concept i would like to see them do



Yeah it would be a good concept, but wouldn't what you described be riches to rags to riches again?

I think it would be cool start as a rich character, and maybe get double crossed or kidnapped and taken to a different city and you have to find connections to get back to your own city and gang etc... But i wouldn't like to go from a mansion in the start mission to a grotty flat that Niko has in the next... Would be the very opposite of rewarding.



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hmm, touche'. it would just be starting at the top of the game, going to bottom, only to go back to the top... something to think about, though..
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post Aug 3 2010, 05:08 PM
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Well Nilo never made it to riches, maybe that's why many people were disappointed with IV so much. The Scarface cliché has always been the ultimate reward in a sandbox like GTA... i don't know why.

I'd be happy as a low life hitman, but doesn't come with the fame and riches, just gets on with his jobs.

there is millions of possible fun idea's for characters which doesn't involve rags to riches or the opposite.


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post Aug 3 2010, 05:53 PM
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i'd like to be a big boss guys hitman, similar to luis from the ballad of gay tony... doing all the grunt work for some bigshot... but, still reaping the benefits of the lifestyle... maybe the right hand man of a real estate developer...

a riches to riches kind of story...

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Oh, good one. The "you're on the internet so you must have no life" insult isn't moronic or unoriginal at all. You must, without a doubt, be a very important member of society, not at all a waste of the already barely valuable gift of life.

As is the case for everyone who takes issue with people who make them sad on the internet, you are one of two kinds of people:

You are exactly what you claim I am, and that is a lonely, pathetic basement dweller. You life is spent eating eight pounds of junk food per day, masturbating to anything you find online that's even remotely feminine, and wishing you had good looks and social skills. You continue to live with your mother until she dies of a combination of lung cancer and liver failure brought on by the chain-smoking and heavy drinking she used to cope with what a failure you are. Your mother mercifully dead and free of the living embodiment of failure she regretfully thrust from her loins, the bills start to pile up and you, unemployed and unable to pay these bills (of course), lose the house and everything in it. Somehow even more of a failure than you already were, you wander from place to place eating out of dumpsters and sleeping in your own filth until you finally die of AIDS, which you contracted from a diseased whore you scrounged up enough money to pay for, so you could finally lose your virginity while at the same time pretending that your mother was back in your life.

Or:

You are the type who was an athlete in high school, who was genetically doomed to be an idiot but managed to finish school and even get a college scholarship because you were so good at a worthless children's game. You went off to college with a suitcase full of polo shirts and condoms, the polo shirts, because you're a douche, and the condoms to prevent you from impregnating the dim-witted young college girls whom you could never touch without the aid of Rohypnol, a drug you refer to as "roofies" because you can neither spell or pronounce Rohypnol. You scrape by with borderline D's for the next four years, and leave the campus to go out into the real world where your realize you're not intelligent or talented enough to do anything of value with your life. Misery and minimum wage ensues for thirty years, then you blow your brains out, and your corpse, alone and forgotten, is not discovered until the smell of rotting flesh seeps under your door and your bodily fluids finally soak through the floor of your studio apartment and into the room below you. Your body is cremated, the ashes scraped into a garbage bin because there was no one in your life who valued you enough to pay for a casket, funeral, or burial plot.

You're undoubtedly one of the two, otherwise you would have better things to do than complain about the theme of a forum that doesn't care about anything you have to say.
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QUOTE (DuPz0r @ Aug 3 2010, 06:08 PM) *
Well Nilo never made it to riches, maybe that's why many people were disappointed with IV so much. The Scarface cliché has always been the ultimate reward in a sandbox like GTA... i don't know why.

I'd be happy as a low life hitman, but doesn't come with the fame and riches, just gets on with his jobs.

there is millions of possible fun idea's for characters which doesn't involve rags to riches or the opposite.



QUOTE (bOnEs @ Aug 3 2010, 06:53 PM) *
i'd like to be a big boss guys hitman, similar to luis from the ballad of gay tony... doing all the grunt work for some bigshot... but, still reaping the benefits of the lifestyle... maybe the right hand man of a real estate developer...

a riches to riches kind of story...


Isn't this what Mafia II is going to offer? You never actually reach the top of the chain, but I think you get made.


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I'd like to see R* try their hand at a real ghetto story again, where we start out in a shitty housing project, and we continue to do grunt work the whole game, eventually doing higher-profile jobs without attaining high-profile status, and getting an okay-looking semi-suburban house along the way, while having a couch or guest room to save at in some of the friendlier mission boss' houses/penthouses/mansions.


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QUOTE (ViceMan @ Aug 3 2010, 01:59 PM) *
QUOTE (bOnEs @ Aug 3 2010, 06:53 PM) *
i'd like to be a big boss guys hitman, similar to luis from the ballad of gay tony... doing all the grunt work for some bigshot... but, still reaping the benefits of the lifestyle... maybe the right hand man of a real estate developer...

a riches to riches kind of story...


Isn't this what Mafia II is going to offer? You never actually reach the top of the chain, but I think you get made.

i have no clue what mafia II is like, TBH... but, i actually liked the premise of the ballad of gay tony and that's kind of how i was thinking the next GTA could play out... and being the right hand man of a crooked real estate developer could give you lots of creative directions, and also possibly introduce a property system again...


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QUOTE (Massacre @ Mar 15 2011, 01:24 AM) *
Oh, good one. The "you're on the internet so you must have no life" insult isn't moronic or unoriginal at all. You must, without a doubt, be a very important member of society, not at all a waste of the already barely valuable gift of life.

As is the case for everyone who takes issue with people who make them sad on the internet, you are one of two kinds of people:

You are exactly what you claim I am, and that is a lonely, pathetic basement dweller. You life is spent eating eight pounds of junk food per day, masturbating to anything you find online that's even remotely feminine, and wishing you had good looks and social skills. You continue to live with your mother until she dies of a combination of lung cancer and liver failure brought on by the chain-smoking and heavy drinking she used to cope with what a failure you are. Your mother mercifully dead and free of the living embodiment of failure she regretfully thrust from her loins, the bills start to pile up and you, unemployed and unable to pay these bills (of course), lose the house and everything in it. Somehow even more of a failure than you already were, you wander from place to place eating out of dumpsters and sleeping in your own filth until you finally die of AIDS, which you contracted from a diseased whore you scrounged up enough money to pay for, so you could finally lose your virginity while at the same time pretending that your mother was back in your life.

Or:

You are the type who was an athlete in high school, who was genetically doomed to be an idiot but managed to finish school and even get a college scholarship because you were so good at a worthless children's game. You went off to college with a suitcase full of polo shirts and condoms, the polo shirts, because you're a douche, and the condoms to prevent you from impregnating the dim-witted young college girls whom you could never touch without the aid of Rohypnol, a drug you refer to as "roofies" because you can neither spell or pronounce Rohypnol. You scrape by with borderline D's for the next four years, and leave the campus to go out into the real world where your realize you're not intelligent or talented enough to do anything of value with your life. Misery and minimum wage ensues for thirty years, then you blow your brains out, and your corpse, alone and forgotten, is not discovered until the smell of rotting flesh seeps under your door and your bodily fluids finally soak through the floor of your studio apartment and into the room below you. Your body is cremated, the ashes scraped into a garbage bin because there was no one in your life who valued you enough to pay for a casket, funeral, or burial plot.

You're undoubtedly one of the two, otherwise you would have better things to do than complain about the theme of a forum that doesn't care about anything you have to say.
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post Aug 13 2010, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (bOnEs @ Aug 4 2010, 03:00 AM) *
QUOTE (ViceMan @ Aug 3 2010, 01:59 PM) *
QUOTE (bOnEs @ Aug 3 2010, 06:53 PM) *
i'd like to be a big boss guys hitman, similar to luis from the ballad of gay tony... doing all the grunt work for some bigshot... but, still reaping the benefits of the lifestyle... maybe the right hand man of a real estate developer...

a riches to riches kind of story...


Isn't this what Mafia II is going to offer? You never actually reach the top of the chain, but I think you get made.

i have no clue what mafia II is like, TBH... but, i actually liked the premise of the ballad of gay tony and that's kind of how i was thinking the next GTA could play out... and being the right hand man of a crooked real estate developer could give you lots of creative directions, and also possibly introduce a property system again...


I definitely want to see some property acquisition like clubs, car showrooms, print makers etc! I think it would be nice if they also use the GTA interweb to advertise houses to buy. So like you could Pick a property to go look at and drive there and check it out, rather than them all being on the map once unlocked... just seems like more of a surprise, and more rewarding.


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