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post Jun 1 2010, 12:29 PM
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http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/31/...bandage-repeat/

Tell me to fight a war the way you want it.

Do I really need to stress my opinion on this shit.

It has happened to my friend a few times, now.


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post Jun 6 2010, 02:35 AM
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I'm sorry about the right-wing jibe, but it is a common right-wing straw man to attack what I say based on it being broadly against the extreme right and therefore against the moderate right. My only hostile reaction, and damn right it's a hostile one, is to the "bomb them all, only good Paki's a dead Paki" middle-Englanders tend to resort to when confronted with the difficulties of the front lines. That way lies damnation and Rush Limbaugh.

I'm not sure what exactly your point is, is it that most reasonable Afghans don't mind harder tactics against the Taliban, and it's only to keep up appearances that we must conform to best practice?

If so, then that may be. But it is still important that the military is not seen torturing and knocking down innocent people's doors at 5am. Sometimes that tumbles over into erring too far to the side of caution, and that's the legacy of an imperfectly planned invasion. We the west should be seen, by potential enemies and by friends, to be morally better, and if it's too much to do then our politicians shouldn't be sending our young men to do a job that, with the best will in the world, is impossible to do in a way that improves the situation rather than makes it worse. We risk radicalising potential enemies and alienating potential allies.

Of course, that's a whole other issue and one that is already spilt milk. But maybe lessons can be learned: at the moment, it's all just point-scoring as each side accuses the other of hating America and not caring about families...straw men left and right.

[Edit] This post is unreadable, I might fix it when it's not 4am.

This post has been edited by Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester: Jun 6 2010, 02:37 AM


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- Bain   I fucking hate these rules.   Jun 1 2010, 12:29 PM
- - Stoic Person Eater   Let Allah sort them out.   Jun 1 2010, 01:29 PM
- - Spoiler   those bastards are smart. no wonder US still has n...   Jun 1 2010, 02:49 PM
- - El-Nino   they should let the fuckers die, even if they are ...   Jun 1 2010, 03:40 PM
|- - Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester   QUOTE (El-Nino @ Jun 1 2010, 04:40 P...   Jun 1 2010, 03:50 PM
- - NukaLurk   The US is not party to any rules of war. Being sai...   Jun 1 2010, 04:20 PM
|- - TreeFitty   QUOTE (NukaLurk @ Jun 1 2010, 12:20 PM) T...   Jun 1 2010, 07:26 PM
- - ViceMan   Wait, they were transported back to a military hop...   Jun 1 2010, 05:44 PM
- - NCP   The Afghans are often skinny fuckers, so if he is ...   Jun 1 2010, 07:15 PM
- - Spoiler   QUOTE (NukaLurk @ Jun 1 2010, 04:20 PM) T...   Jun 2 2010, 02:06 AM
|- - NukaLurk   QUOTE (Spoiler @ Jun 1 2010, 10:06 PM) QU...   Jun 2 2010, 04:36 AM
- - Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester   QUOTE (Spoiler @ Jun 2 2010, 03:06 AM) QU...   Jun 4 2010, 01:53 AM
|- - Bain   QUOTE (Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester @ Jun...   Jun 5 2010, 04:55 AM
|- - Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester   QUOTE (Bain @ Jun 5 2010, 05:55 AM) QUOTE...   Jun 5 2010, 02:46 PM
|- - Bain   QUOTE (Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester @ Jun...   Jun 5 2010, 11:48 PM
- - demon   QUOTE (Bain @ Jun 1 2010, 02:29 PM) http:...   Jun 4 2010, 06:37 PM
- - Qdeathstar   I think its a good rule. they did forensic analysi...   Jun 4 2010, 10:40 PM
- - Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester   QUOTE (demon @ Jun 4 2010, 07:37 PM) QUOT...   Jun 4 2010, 11:02 PM
|- - demon   QUOTE (Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester @ Jun...   Jun 4 2010, 11:26 PM
- - NukaLurk   Bain, don't be a dick. You don't know what...   Jun 5 2010, 06:43 AM
- - Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester   I'm sorry about the right-wing jibe, but it is...   Jun 6 2010, 02:35 AM
- - Bain   My point was that the tactics that put our troops ...   Jun 6 2010, 03:24 PM
- - Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester   While I appreciate that the opinion of Afghans is ...   Jun 6 2010, 05:55 PM
- - Bain   I can more or less say so-so to what you said so I...   Jun 7 2010, 12:50 AM


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