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Marney1
post Jan 4 2010, 02:36 PM
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Everyone keeps telling me how educational the new International Slavery Museum is and I keep meaning to take a tour but I thought it would be interesting to see if anyone thinks slavery still exists and in what form.

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post Jan 30 2011, 02:47 AM
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Technically everyone in western societies is a slave to the corporations serving as our governments.

I personally do not oppose the type of system it is but the fact it is kept secret and people are deceived to keep them ignorant of it certainly implies that most people are being used by their governments without their consent and have no real voice in how those corporations operate using money generated or directly provided by the tax paying citizens(workers).

If people have no real choice and do not even know that they have legal persons attached to them which are owned by the corporations that serve as our governments and which the corporations profit from without sharing with the people it should count as slavery in my view.

I have no problem with the corporatocracy itself but the way this one is run bothers me as the people are not truly given a choice but rather are deceived into ignorantly allowing the corporations to have power over them that those corporations have no lawful right to enforce on men and women, only legal persons.

Not educating the people on the difference between a legal person and a human being is a clear sign of purposeful deceit.

Allow me to help people out a bit with some legal definitions:

Legal Person - a fiction: created at birth and registered with the government corporation and thus is subject to corporate policy(civil law) and Constitutional personal rights.

Man, woman or human being - a freeman on land only subject to common law and human rights.

Must - may: You must pay this amount of money actually legally means you may chose to pay this amount of money.

Notice - Offer to discuss terms of contract in question: Dear Mr. or Mrs.(legal title addressing your legal person) Whateverson you owe us xxxx dollars and this is your final notice, please contact us within so many days;

That actually means - This is your final chance to take up our offer(notice) to discuss(negotiate) how much you are going to pay us, not replying to this offer within the x amount of days specified means you agree to the conditions(amount of money) we have offered you and you are legally bound to those conditions.

If you get a bill in the mail stating that it is a notice contact them quickly and negotiate how much you owe them, usually they will deal with you and save you a lot of money as they would rather have some money than none - if you ignore their final notice then your legal person becomes legally bound to pay that stated amount exactly as is and they sick a collection agency on you and can take action against you in civil law court.

I managed to reduce a large legal bill by almost 75% by doing this, I just told them I did not have the money to pay fully and this was what I could and would pay and if they did not like it they would get nothing but fees from the collection agencies and possibly a headache court case.

Submit - bend to ones will.

Application - Beg:

So submitting an application for a job is legally seen as begging for the job and the submission of the application itself is indicating that you are willing to do whatever the corporation wants you to do and understand all possible consequences and benefits of accepting the job. Ironically most begging for a job is voluntarily submitted... laugh.gif

Registration - transfer of ownership in which the prior owner retains a title of ownership but not actual possession: registering your vehicle means the government now owns it and is tasking you as the title holder(custodian or legal guardian) to maintain and operate their vehicle according to their rules.

Same thing with registering a child's legal person at birth which transfers ownership of that legal person(attached to that child for life) to the government while the parents simply are tasked with taking care of the governments children according to their rules as the legal guardians - and they can take them away from you if you do not take care of their legal persons the way they want you to.

Police Officer - Contractual Corporate Policy Enforcement Agent: sworn under contract with the government to uphold the corporate policy enacted and given the force of law against consenting subjects(citizens) - typically called statutes enacted through acts of congress or parliament they are only rules, not laws.

Police Man - Community Policing Officer: Sworn to serve and protect the community based on Common Law(causing harm or loss to another man is a crime, no victim = no crime).

Modern law enforcement agents are supposed to be both but these days new recruits are usually only taught to be corporate officers and do not even know the difference between the two.

Court Room - A place of corporate business.

Summons - An invitation to come to that corporations place of business to discuss contractual issues(typically violations).

If one of the Justice System corporations summons you to court they are inviting your legal person to their place of business and by accepting their invitation you automatically consent to their authority within that court room and verify that you represent the legal person they summoned(Mr or Mrs whatever) that they have the Constitutional right to act upon.

So in order for a police officer to act on your human being you must commit a common law crime in which there is a victim, if there is no victim(possession of drugs, prostitution, etc.) then they can only act on you if you consent to represent your legal person to them which they can act on under Civil Law - they need your name and address or phone number as joinder and by giving it to them you submit to their authority and consent to allow them to act on you.

Unfortunately since most police officers are unaware of what actual powers they have and are taught to have a high and mighty attitude that encourages abuse of powers as long as the behavior is generally accepted by the police corporation without serious punishment abuse of powers will continue to become more and more common. And people who are ignorant of it as well have no way to defend themselves and usually consent to it all without even knowing it or knowing they have the ability not to consent to their authority(for non common law crimes).

If a policy officer approaches you and seems hostile(like he wants to pick on you) and he asks for your name and address do not give them to him but rather ask him if you are obliged to answer his questions.

Usually he or she will answer yes but in reality you are only obliged to do it after you have identified yourself properly and consented to their authority to oblige you, you can legally refuse to answer any and all questions.

Once you identify your legal person to them you are fucked as all the statutes and acts they are primarily contracted(paid) to enforce become enforceable against your identified legal person and they then have the right to oblige you to answer their questions and pretty much do anything they want within the bounds of your constitutional rights and civil and common laws they are enforcing.

A constitution is essentially the charter of a corporation that outlines the main structure, goals and operating guidelines of its corporate society and is the foundation of national civil law(a combination of common law and statutory rules or codes aka corporate policy).

So claiming common law rights under the Constitution is not going to do anything as your constitutional rights are purely based in the civil law, not common law. In the U.S in particular claiming constitutional rights as a citizen of the United States you actually are consenting to their authority by identifying yourself as one of their employees(a citizen with rights under their corporate policies).

One thing should be noted also is that most constitutions mention the duties that are required in exchange for the rights they grant, so if they deem you to not be doing your duty those rights could be voided by the authorities(upholding national security or just generally being a traitor in some way for example).

If you can speak their language(Legalese) then you can realize the truth of the systems structure and your status within it(a slave owned by the corporation legally named as the government) and can either try to break free of it completely or at least use their language to make your life a bit easier - but it could also get a lot harder if you do it the wrong way and draw bad attention to yourself.

The fact those who are sworn to non-violent lawful rebellion are currently being vilified by the corporate media around the world as extremists and terrorists threatening the established political and social order simply for trying to educate people on the truth proves they are actively enslaving people against their knowledge by using legalese to trick them into legally(not lawfully) giving them ownership and complete authority over them.

Again if people were educated on the systems true structure and were truly given the free choice to be part of that society without the risk of harmful and unlawful consequences against our human beings I would not have any problem whatsoever.

The bankers used their money to create the law societies of the world which then created legalese which they have used it to enslave us. The police officers, the lawyers, the crown or district attorneys or prosecutors, the judges, many of the politicians, and the top corporate businessmen in the world are all part of the law societies.

The so-called justice system is not meant to protect us as it is portrayed but is the very tool they created and use to enslave us all without our true knowledge.

Anyways I know I am rambling but this shit is important for people to know, slavery is as rampant as ever and it is hidden in plain sight with the use of a weapon of mass distraction that is our entire society itself and its entire structure meant to keep people ignorant of their enslavement.

EDIT: change a few things around and corrected a couple of errors, I should have proof read it before I posted such a long article but it had been a long day and I needed sleep.

This post has been edited by Masta: Feb 1 2011, 02:45 AM
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- marney1   Slavery   Jan 4 2010, 02:36 PM
- - Ragnarofl   Have you ever went to Dubai? Chad? Of course there...   Jan 4 2010, 02:44 PM
|- - Stoic Person Eater   QUOTE (Ragnarofl @ Jan 4 2010, 09:44 AM) ...   Jan 4 2010, 03:10 PM
|- - marney1   QUOTE (Ragnarofl @ Jan 4 2010, 02:44 PM) ...   Jan 4 2010, 03:11 PM
|- - Ragnarofl   QUOTE (marney1 @ Jan 4 2010, 07:11 PM) QU...   Jan 4 2010, 03:18 PM
|- - TheAnalogKid2112   QUOTE (Ragnarofl @ Jan 4 2010, 07:18 AM) ...   Jan 14 2010, 02:11 PM
- - TreeFitty   There's probably slavery somewhere. Still exis...   Jan 4 2010, 04:23 PM
- - Heartless   Clockwise from Left: Sexual Slavery in the Balkan...   Jan 4 2010, 07:34 PM
- - El-Nino   the closest thing ive come to it is the hotel staf...   Jan 4 2010, 07:34 PM
- - Hustler One   QUOTE (Heartless @ Jan 4 2010, 02:34 PM) ...   Jan 4 2010, 08:18 PM
- - TreeFitty   You're part black???   Jan 4 2010, 08:19 PM
- - Hustler One   QUOTE (TreeFitty @ Jan 4 2010, 03:19 PM) ...   Jan 4 2010, 08:21 PM
- - TreeFitty   never knew it was completely serious...   Jan 4 2010, 08:28 PM
- - Hustler One   Yup, The big guy on the right is my cousin, and th...   Jan 4 2010, 08:33 PM
- - TreeFitty   Interesting.... So you're like mocha or someth...   Jan 4 2010, 08:38 PM
- - Hustler One   QUOTE (TreeFitty @ Jan 4 2010, 03:38 PM) ...   Jan 4 2010, 08:40 PM
- - TreeFitty   alrighty then... PS: GO PICK MY COTTON DAMN IT...   Jan 4 2010, 08:44 PM
- - Heartless   Canada is real country? never knew it was comple...   Jan 5 2010, 02:52 AM
- - Massacre   QUOTE (Hustler One @ Jan 4 2010, 03:21 PM...   Jan 5 2010, 04:24 AM
- - TreeFitty   I had planned years ago to capture homeless people...   Jan 5 2010, 11:52 AM
- - SPOILER   i know what's wage slavery is. it's not th...   Jan 5 2010, 01:22 PM
|- - marney1   QUOTE (SPOILER @ Jan 5 2010, 01:22 PM) i ...   Jan 5 2010, 06:59 PM
- - TreeFitty   Are you able to leave? (aside from not finding som...   Jan 5 2010, 07:54 PM
|- - Heartless   QUOTE (TreeFitty @ Jan 5 2010, 02:54 PM) ...   Jan 5 2010, 07:56 PM
- - SPOILER   QUOTE (TreeFitty @ Jan 5 2010, 07:54 PM) ...   Jan 6 2010, 01:12 PM
- - Hustler One   QUOTE (SPOILER @ Jan 6 2010, 08:12 AM) QU...   Jan 7 2010, 04:26 PM
- - SPOILER   QUOTE (Hustler One @ Jan 7 2010, 04:26 PM...   Jan 8 2010, 01:32 PM
- - demon   Slavery exists in almost every country. Sex slaves...   Jan 13 2010, 10:31 PM
- - punxtr   There's sex slave trade in the states... hell,...   Jan 13 2010, 11:49 PM
- - Hustler One   QUOTE (punxtr @ Jan 13 2010, 06:49 PM) Th...   Jan 13 2010, 11:58 PM
- - demon   QUOTE (demon @ Jan 13 2010, 11:31 PM) I a...   Jan 14 2010, 12:16 PM
- - bobert   Of course slavery still exists. Sweat shop labor m...   Apr 7 2010, 07:15 AM
- - calimann83   Unfortunately there will probably always be slaver...   May 16 2010, 07:19 PM
- - Walther PPK   Slavery exists in ALL countries across the planet....   May 31 2010, 02:35 PM
- - Leutnant Herzlos   ^ more then a little silly.   May 31 2010, 05:26 PM
|- - demon   QUOTE (Leutnant Herzlos @ May 31 2010, 07...   Jun 3 2010, 03:29 AM
|- - NukaLurk   QUOTE (demon @ Jun 2 2010, 11:29 PM) QUOT...   Jun 3 2010, 04:56 AM
- - demon   I understand you and I can't disagree on your ...   Jun 3 2010, 04:59 AM
- - Pickles   Anybody who isn't upper class is a slave...   Jun 3 2010, 04:45 PM
|- - ViceMan   QUOTE (Pickles @ Jun 3 2010, 05:45 PM) An...   Jun 3 2010, 04:58 PM
- - Pickles   QUOTE (ViceMan @ Jun 3 2010, 12:58 PM) QU...   Jun 3 2010, 05:03 PM
|- - ViceMan   QUOTE (Pickles @ Jun 3 2010, 06:03 PM) QU...   Jun 3 2010, 05:39 PM
- - demon   QUOTE (ViceMan @ Jun 3 2010, 06:58 PM) QU...   Jun 3 2010, 09:57 PM
- - Pickles   QUOTE (demon @ Jun 3 2010, 05:57 PM) QUOT...   Jun 3 2010, 10:00 PM
|- - demon   QUOTE (Pickles @ Jun 4 2010, 12:00 AM) QU...   Jun 3 2010, 10:05 PM
- - Pickles   QUOTE (demon @ Jun 3 2010, 06:05 PM) QUOT...   Jun 3 2010, 10:10 PM
|- - demon   QUOTE (Pickles @ Jun 4 2010, 12:10 AM) QU...   Jun 3 2010, 11:10 PM
- - Pickles   QUOTE (demon @ Jun 3 2010, 07:10 PM) QUOT...   Jun 3 2010, 11:13 PM
- - demon   A: OK, but you'll get old and responsible for ...   Jun 3 2010, 11:19 PM
- - Pickles   QUOTE (demon @ Jun 3 2010, 07:19 PM) A: O...   Jun 3 2010, 11:22 PM
- - NukaLurk   I'm a slave to Lucifer.   Jun 4 2010, 12:02 AM
- - demon   I'm Rockstar's bitch. I paid for their gam...   Jun 4 2010, 06:13 PM
- - Walther PPK   Silly huh? Well you obviously don't watch CNN...   Jun 8 2010, 11:15 PM
|- - NukaLurk   QUOTE (Walther PPK @ Jun 8 2010, 07:15 PM...   Jun 9 2010, 01:05 AM
- - demon   ^ I didn't find anything to disagree on. QU...   Jun 9 2010, 07:24 AM
- - NCP   The Dutch version of Santa (basicly the original S...   Dec 29 2010, 02:34 PM
|- - Mental Istid   QUOTE (NCP @ Dec 29 2010, 09:34 AM) The D...   Dec 29 2010, 10:17 PM
- - NCP   That's great!   Dec 30 2010, 11:28 AM
- - Masta   Technically everyone in western societies is a sla...   Jan 30 2011, 02:47 AM


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