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post Mar 10 2007, 12:42 PM
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Sounds interesting. Maybe the trailer will reveal more.

The Grand Theft Auto IV debut trailer is still 19 days away, but we've already got a good idea of where the game might take place. Tokyo has been rumored along with Paris, London, and other European locations, but if a new rumor is true, then New York is looking like the winner. NeoGAF user VALIS is claiming to know this inside information: "Friend of mine was just contacted today to be on the GTAIV soundtrack. He was in the 1980s NY hardcore band Breakdown. He had a laugh at the lowball offer, but of course he's not gonna pass it up.

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Interesting...but you can't really know it from one song, could just be a classic radio station, or something...yeah classic Hardcore. Or the guy could just be lying. Anyway, if it has some truth, I don't think I want 80s New York...just sounds like VC's time line spliced into Liberty City.


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post Mar 10 2007, 01:05 PM
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I posted a while back along with another guy that we both found in magazines GTAIV was rumoured to be set in 90's New York. I dont want to see New York again, whether it be's in the 80's or the 90's, we had Liberty City in 2 games(it was practically new york wasent it?) and i have seen other games try to pull off New York(True Crime, Driver Parallel Lines etc) and they wasent too good...


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post Mar 10 2007, 01:06 PM
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Yeah I mean that's the thing, Would they really risk setting it in the 80's again?

R* are so secretive >_<


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QUOTE(ZacKo @ Mar 10 2007, 07:06 AM) [snapback]1309024[/snapback]
Yeah I mean that's the thing, Would they really risk setting it in the 80's again?

R* are so secretive >_<


To be honest, I like the 80s but I dont like New York. I'll still buy the game though.


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Meh, I'd be slightly dissapointed if it was in the 1980's and in New York.... :-/




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I hope its not 80's again. They dont wanna over-use such a good era, that'll be bad imo. And i think they should come up with new cities too (i have faith in them).


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post Mar 10 2007, 04:25 PM
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Intresting could'ent really see another GTA game been back into New York, but with the new RAGE thing and graphics machine the game could be quite good, thats to say it was set in New York


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post Mar 10 2007, 04:50 PM
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I highly doubt it. Liberty City = New York.
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post Mar 10 2007, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(Sanshiro @ Mar 10 2007, 11:50 AM) [snapback]1309056[/snapback]
I highly doubt it. Liberty City = New York.


The areas are as so...

Portland = Bronx, chinatown, Greenpoint and other areas of the city

Staunton Island = Manhattan, Queens..etc

Shoreside Vale = New Jersey?

I forgot alot of areas in NYC. -_-

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QUOTE(Sanshiro @ Mar 10 2007, 04:50 PM) [snapback]1309056[/snapback]
I highly doubt it. Liberty City = New York.

I have to agree, may mean the game is based in the 80's though which isn't improbable, or it may just mean they have a 80's radio station.

The only thing you can really conclude from this is that it will be set in the 80's or later.


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post Mar 10 2007, 05:43 PM
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I don't think that adds much gravity to it being set in New York, its a pretty flimsy reason for it to be set there. I'm about 90% certain its going to be turn of the Millennium (2000-2001) GTA set in London. It would be a fresh start for them to move it away from a US setting and a London done in GTA style would be stunning. There are no more US cities that are truly iconic for R* to set it in, they have to move the game elsewhere. Tokyo I don't buy because there's not enough of the right sort of culture for them to satirise. Most GTA gamers are in the Western hemisphere, what jokes about Japan could they really play on that we would all get? It's got to be Europe and its got to be London this time.
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I don't think that adds much gravity to it being set in New York, its a pretty flimsy reason for it to be set there. I'm about 90% certain its going to be turn of the Millennium (2000-2001) GTA set in London. It would be a fresh start for them to move it away from a US setting and a London done in GTA style would be stunning. There are no more US cities that are truly iconic for R* to set it in, they have to move the game elsewhere. Tokyo I don't buy because there's not enough of the right sort of culture for them to satirise. Most GTA gamers are in the Western hemisphere, what jokes about Japan could they really play on that we would all get? It's got to be Europe and its got to be London this time.


You know, there is evidence (albeit theoretical findings found in "clues" within GTASA and the PSP games...) that it will be set in London in the early 70's (possibly around 1969). Plus, it would follow the 2D game line-up following into GTA: London 1969.

This is why I don't post speculative information though. It gets the idiots and mouthbreathers talking.


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post Mar 10 2007, 06:16 PM
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you know,I agree London has been done to death.

I was thinking earlier that RockStar wanted a new start for the series,
so the U.S. was probably out.
No offence to anyone,I've seen enough London in games.But as the trailer approaches,
it looks like it will be UK based and it would be interesting to see a GTAized UK,RockStar's hometown.

Either way,I've yet to be disappointed by a GTA game! clap.gif

>>>edit... you could have a save point in the offices of RockStar North! drool.gif

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QUOTE(PyroHazard @ Mar 10 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]1309074[/snapback]
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I don't think that adds much gravity to it being set in New York, its a pretty flimsy reason for it to be set there. I'm about 90% certain its going to be turn of the Millennium (2000-2001) GTA set in London. It would be a fresh start for them to move it away from a US setting and a London done in GTA style would be stunning. There are no more US cities that are truly iconic for R* to set it in, they have to move the game elsewhere. Tokyo I don't buy because there's not enough of the right sort of culture for them to satirise. Most GTA gamers are in the Western hemisphere, what jokes about Japan could they really play on that we would all get? It's got to be Europe and its got to be London this time.


You know, there is evidence (albeit theoretical findings found in "clues" within GTASA and the PSP games...) that it will be set in London in the early 70's (possibly around 1969). Plus, it would follow the 2D game line-up following into GTA: London 1969.

This is why I don't post speculative information though. It gets the idiots and mouthbreathers talking.



The problem with setting it in the late 60's or indeed 70's (I remember prior to San Andreas being announced a lot of people were convinced it would be set in the 70's) is that again there is not enough of the right sort of culture for them to satirise in the GTA way. One thing I think everyone's got to remember is that R* won't be taking any chances with GTAIV, there's just to much financially at risk with it. If they announced that it was set in the 60's or 70's a lot of people would immediately switch off, probably including me for that matter. It needs modern cars, weapons, aircraft, music etc to make people excited and keep them with the franchise.

As to them setting it here in sunny Edinburgh (actually its pissing with rain here) Great idea, actually in all seriousness if GTAIV is set against an EU backdrop and it does expand with more and more cities via downloadable content surely a GTA Edinburgh has got to be on the cards.

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I don't think that adds much gravity to it being set in New York, its a pretty flimsy reason for it to be set there. I'm about 90% certain its going to be turn of the Millennium (2000-2001) GTA set in London. It would be a fresh start for them to move it away from a US setting and a London done in GTA style would be stunning. There are no more US cities that are truly iconic for R* to set it in, they have to move the game elsewhere. Tokyo I don't buy because there's not enough of the right sort of culture for them to satirise. Most GTA gamers are in the Western hemisphere, what jokes about Japan could they really play on that we would all get? It's got to be Europe and its got to be London this time.


You know, there is evidence (albeit theoretical findings found in "clues" within GTASA and the PSP games...) that it will be set in London in the early 70's (possibly around 1969). Plus, it would follow the 2D game line-up following into GTA: London 1969.

This is why I don't post speculative information though. It gets the idiots and mouthbreathers talking.



The problem with setting it in the late 60's or indeed 70's (I remember prior to San Andreas being announced a lot of people were convinced it would be set in the 70's) is that again there is not enough of the right sort of culture for them to satirise in the GTA way. One thing I think everyone's got to remember is that R* won't be taking any chances with GTAIV, there's just to much financially at risk with it. If they announced that it was set in the 60's or 70's a lot of people would immediately switch off, probably including me for that matter. It needs modern cars, weapons, aircraft, music etc to make people excited and keep them with the franchise.

As to them setting it here in sunny Edinburgh (actually its pissing with rain here) Great idea, actually in all seriousness if GTAIV is set against an EU backdrop and it does expand with more and more cities via downloadable content surely a GTA Edinburgh has got to be on the cards.


Counter-culture, drug culture, the hippies? Hello?... the space race? the cold war?

Dude. What are you talking about. There is alot of stuff in that era to joke about.


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post Mar 10 2007, 09:11 PM
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I wouldn't mind seeing New York as a location but I'm not too keen on the 80's timeframe again.

I guess we will find out in a few weeks anyway.


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I don't think that adds much gravity to it being set in New York, its a pretty flimsy reason for it to be set there. I'm about 90% certain its going to be turn of the Millennium (2000-2001) GTA set in London. It would be a fresh start for them to move it away from a US setting and a London done in GTA style would be stunning. There are no more US cities that are truly iconic for R* to set it in, they have to move the game elsewhere. Tokyo I don't buy because there's not enough of the right sort of culture for them to satirise. Most GTA gamers are in the Western hemisphere, what jokes about Japan could they really play on that we would all get? It's got to be Europe and its got to be London this time.


You know, there is evidence (albeit theoretical findings found in "clues" within GTASA and the PSP games...) that it will be set in London in the early 70's (possibly around 1969). Plus, it would follow the 2D game line-up following into GTA: London 1969.

This is why I don't post speculative information though. It gets the idiots and mouthbreathers talking.



The problem with setting it in the late 60's or indeed 70's (I remember prior to San Andreas being announced a lot of people were convinced it would be set in the 70's) is that again there is not enough of the right sort of culture for them to satirise in the GTA way. One thing I think everyone's got to remember is that R* won't be taking any chances with GTAIV, there's just to much financially at risk with it. If they announced that it was set in the 60's or 70's a lot of people would immediately switch off, probably including me for that matter. It needs modern cars, weapons, aircraft, music etc to make people excited and keep them with the franchise.

As to them setting it here in sunny Edinburgh (actually its pissing with rain here) Great idea, actually in all seriousness if GTAIV is set against an EU backdrop and it does expand with more and more cities via downloadable content surely a GTA Edinburgh has got to be on the cards.


Counter-culture, drug culture, the hippies? Hello?... the space race? the cold war?

Dude. What are you talking about. There is alot of stuff in that era to joke about.


Totally true but what i really mean to say is that there may be enough culture but are enough GTA fans really going to appreciate in jokes about hippies, the space race, the cold war etc for the whole thing really to be worthwhile? I know some of us GTA fans are reasonably sophisticated and well read but a lot aren't and R* presumably wants and needs to sell them copies of the game. I still think a lot of people, especially younger people, wouldn't get excited by a 60's or 70's set GTA let alone go out and buy a copy. And the whole cross platform issue just shows you how desperately R* are to shift every last copy of the game they possibly can. A 60's GTA is just to big a risk i think.
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QUOTE(mobe @ Mar 10 2007, 09:57 PM) [snapback]1309128[/snapback]
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I don't think that adds much gravity to it being set in New York, its a pretty flimsy reason for it to be set there. I'm about 90% certain its going to be turn of the Millennium (2000-2001) GTA set in London. It would be a fresh start for them to move it away from a US setting and a London done in GTA style would be stunning. There are no more US cities that are truly iconic for R* to set it in, they have to move the game elsewhere. Tokyo I don't buy because there's not enough of the right sort of culture for them to satirise. Most GTA gamers are in the Western hemisphere, what jokes about Japan could they really play on that we would all get? It's got to be Europe and its got to be London this time.


You know, there is evidence (albeit theoretical findings found in "clues" within GTASA and the PSP games...) that it will be set in London in the early 70's (possibly around 1969). Plus, it would follow the 2D game line-up following into GTA: London 1969.

This is why I don't post speculative information though. It gets the idiots and mouthbreathers talking.



The problem with setting it in the late 60's or indeed 70's (I remember prior to San Andreas being announced a lot of people were convinced it would be set in the 70's) is that again there is not enough of the right sort of culture for them to satirise in the GTA way. One thing I think everyone's got to remember is that R* won't be taking any chances with GTAIV, there's just to much financially at risk with it. If they announced that it was set in the 60's or 70's a lot of people would immediately switch off, probably including me for that matter. It needs modern cars, weapons, aircraft, music etc to make people excited and keep them with the franchise.

As to them setting it here in sunny Edinburgh (actually its pissing with rain here) Great idea, actually in all seriousness if GTAIV is set against an EU backdrop and it does expand with more and more cities via downloadable content surely a GTA Edinburgh has got to be on the cards.


Counter-culture, drug culture, the hippies? Hello?... the space race? the cold war?

Dude. What are you talking about. There is alot of stuff in that era to joke about.


Totally true but what i really mean to say is that there may be enough culture but are enough GTA fans really going to appreciate in jokes about hippies, the space race, the cold war etc for the whole thing really to be worthwhile? I know some of us GTA fans are reasonably sophisticated and well read but a lot aren't and R* presumably wants and needs to sell them copies of the game. I still think a lot of people, especially younger people, wouldn't get excited by a 60's or 70's set GTA let alone go out and buy a copy. And the whole cross platform issue just shows you how desperately R* are to shift every last copy of the game they possibly can. A 60's GTA is just to big a risk i think.


Totally agree, sure the era was crazy but no way they could pull of a soundtrack from the 60's and keep everyone happy, just not possible imo.


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