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post Apr 21 2009, 12:50 PM
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With the recently announced Fallout New Vegas, I thought there should be a dedicated thread; that way we can keep the other Fallout thread dedicated to FO3.

Sure the game isn't out until 2010, but that gives us plenty of time to dream.

What do you want to see in Fallout's next offering? What landmarks/favorite parts of Vegas do you want to see (thanks Massacre)?

What elements from Fallout 3 would you like to see return and/or disappear?


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I'd like to see Cesars palace as like a place for you to live, like the tenpenny tower.


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post Apr 21 2009, 04:57 PM
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I think it'd be cool for all the casinos like the Luxor, Excalibur, Treasure Island, and Circus Circus to survive, each with their own "tribe" of residents who act and dress like whatever the casino's theme is, like Ledeaux's Ice Gang in FO3. Wasteland pirate ftw! If they did that, I could finally get a goddamn eyepatch for my character. There could be a Tenpenny-type asshole that's fixed up the Stratosphere Tower. Also, fighting Giant Radscorpions in front of the Luxor would rock.

The scorpion thing brings up another idea. I'd like to see more areas like the Deathclaw Sanctuary, or the Yau Guai tunnels, where there are just dozens of tough enemies in one place. That actually gives me an idea for a quest, where you have to eradicate a bunch of Giant Radscorpions from the area outside the Luxor so the tribe inside will help you with... Whatever it is the game revolves around.

Kind of a longshot, but I'd like to see some kind of transportation in the game. I don't always feel this way, but when I'm trekking to the Republic of Dave from Underworld or making some other long trip, sometimes I wish that one of the four busted motorcycles I've passed had survived the war. At the very least, let me make a friendly Radscorpion into a mount. But like I said, it's rarely a big deal for me.

I have a ton of ideas to post, I'll probably spend the rest of the day typing them up and organizing them into three- or four-point posts. Thank you for starting this topic, Stoic, it's been too long since I've had the creative/anticipation rush I usually only get from new GTAs


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I wonder if ANALlogKIKE is going to be in it.


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post Apr 21 2009, 05:03 PM
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Yes, he will. It'll be an Easter egg where just off the strip there's a synogogue, and inside there's a skeleton with a pile of gay porn and dildos around it. That's Analog.


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I think casino chips will be the new bottlecaps.


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maybe allow us to use a brahmin as a pack mule, and as a mode of transportation, kinda like the traveling merchants do... that'd be cool... and the possibility of hiring mercenaries to accompany you... if you can ride a horse in oblivion, you should be able to ride a two headed cow laugh.gif...

lots of recruitable characters... i don't want to just have palidin cross and fawkes if i am a good character... because, you don't get to recruit them tell much much later in the adventure whereas, if your evil, you can recruit jericho and clover pretty much as soon as you get a thousand caps... i want to have like 3 or 4 options per karma... and like 4 non-karma based characters to recruit too so, you don't have to pledge your allegiance to a certain karma level to recruit them... i just want more options here...

a new enemy... not as big as a behemoth but, i want something fresh, big, mutated, and new... for the most part, the creatures have been the same in all fallout games... i'd like to see some desert creatures like 100 ft rattlesnakes, or big fucking spiders that shoots sticky radiated venom that can jam your gun or something... i need to be creeped out a little more laugh.gif...

that's all for now... i'm sure i can think of some more really kick ass ideas in the near future...
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Oh, good one. The "you're on the internet so you must have no life" insult isn't moronic or unoriginal at all. You must, without a doubt, be a very important member of society, not at all a waste of the already barely valuable gift of life.

As is the case for everyone who takes issue with people who make them sad on the internet, you are one of two kinds of people:

You are exactly what you claim I am, and that is a lonely, pathetic basement dweller. You life is spent eating eight pounds of junk food per day, masturbating to anything you find online that's even remotely feminine, and wishing you had good looks and social skills. You continue to live with your mother until she dies of a combination of lung cancer and liver failure brought on by the chain-smoking and heavy drinking she used to cope with what a failure you are. Your mother mercifully dead and free of the living embodiment of failure she regretfully thrust from her loins, the bills start to pile up and you, unemployed and unable to pay these bills (of course), lose the house and everything in it. Somehow even more of a failure than you already were, you wander from place to place eating out of dumpsters and sleeping in your own filth until you finally die of AIDS, which you contracted from a diseased whore you scrounged up enough money to pay for, so you could finally lose your virginity while at the same time pretending that your mother was back in your life.

Or:

You are the type who was an athlete in high school, who was genetically doomed to be an idiot but managed to finish school and even get a college scholarship because you were so good at a worthless children's game. You went off to college with a suitcase full of polo shirts and condoms, the polo shirts, because you're a douche, and the condoms to prevent you from impregnating the dim-witted young college girls whom you could never touch without the aid of Rohypnol, a drug you refer to as "roofies" because you can neither spell or pronounce Rohypnol. You scrape by with borderline D's for the next four years, and leave the campus to go out into the real world where your realize you're not intelligent or talented enough to do anything of value with your life. Misery and minimum wage ensues for thirty years, then you blow your brains out, and your corpse, alone and forgotten, is not discovered until the smell of rotting flesh seeps under your door and your bodily fluids finally soak through the floor of your studio apartment and into the room below you. Your body is cremated, the ashes scraped into a garbage bin because there was no one in your life who valued you enough to pay for a casket, funeral, or burial plot.

You're undoubtedly one of the two, otherwise you would have better things to do than complain about the theme of a forum that doesn't care about anything you have to say.
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post Apr 21 2009, 05:37 PM
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Thanks to Resident Evil Apocalypse for this one: Elvis impersonator ghouls!


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It would be nice to see New Vegas have the same scope as Oblivion and a similar amount of quests. Although i enjoyed the landscape in Fallout 3 and the explorable areas i was disapointed with the amount of quests on offer.

A really nice, but highly unlikely feature, would be to have 16 player multiplayer games or possibly 2-4 player co-op.

I think the VATS system could use an upgrade, when you shoot it should be more like 'bullet time' instead of watching your player shoot in slow motion several times. More targetable areas to shoot like, in the eye or the hand, so they drop their weapon or even in the groin so it paralyzes them for abit.


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post Apr 21 2009, 06:16 PM
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Monkey, were you thinking something like Fable II for the co-op or a more traditional co-op? I think if the storyline were based around a group of people rather than a single person, the traditional style co-op would work. I personally wouldn't want it, though.


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post Apr 21 2009, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(Massacre @ Apr 21 2009, 12:57 PM) [snapback]1497615[/snapback]
Thank you for starting this topic, Stoic, it's been too long since I've had the creative/anticipation rush I usually only get from new GTAs

I felt the same thing. Hence the thread. I hope it flourishes.

I'll be thinking of things for sometime.

Much like the DC area of Fallout 3 wasn't an EXACT match to the area, it was very, very similar. I'd like to see that similarity in New Vegas. I want to be able to navigate New Vegas from my drunken driving knowledge from my trips to Las Vegas... In San Andreas, it seemed like the strip had been flipped and shortened greatly. Anyone familiar with Vegas knows that the Main Strip is hella long [4 mile (6.4 km)] and the hotel properties are huge and feature entire shopping malls, multiple levels of casino gaming, restaurants, dance clubs and of course, hotel rooms. Currently there are @ 67,000 hotel rooms on the strip alone.

There's also Fremont Street (the original strip) to the north of that. I think the two of those areas, plus a little of the outlying area would be a large enough map. They could even incorporate the Hoover Dam, but that's hella far from the strip. It would be at the other end of the map, no doubt.

You also have to think it wouldn't be the Vegas it is now, it'll be the Fallout 3 version of Vegas. A nuclear-era Vegas.

I'm not familiar enough with the Fallout universe to know when things skewed from actual history to the Fallout version, but the older landmarks will still be intact. I'd also like to see themed clans for each of the casinos.

I'd like to see nods to:
-Circus, Circus: most ridiculous casino on the strip, complete with rabid animals and Feral Clown Zombies
-NY, NY: I don't suppose the rollercoaster would still be working?
-The Luxor: Egyptian Super Mutants, FTW
-Excalibur: Raiders in full coats of armor?
-The Hard Rock: Elvis Ghouls (as already mentioned); the pool area with hot babe ghouls (Rehab on Sundays) and of course the Pink Taco novelty t-shirts

Also, plenty of Ghoul Strip Clubs and the aforementioned chips as currency.

I'm hoping there won't be too many scorpions, I get it, it's the desert, but I'd like to see some fucking mutant coyotes and lizards too.
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post Apr 21 2009, 06:24 PM
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Shit, Stoic, I just thought of that. The Fallout timeline starts splitting from ours in the 50's, none of the Casinos I mentioned were built yet. Fuck.

Also, mutant gila monsters, which would now be living up to their monster name.

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post Apr 21 2009, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(Massacre @ Apr 21 2009, 02:24 PM) [snapback]1497644[/snapback]
Shit, Stoic, I just thought of that. The Fallout timeline starts splitting from ours in the 50's, none of the Casinos I mentioned were built yet. Fuck.

That doesn't meant that they weren't DESTINED to be made.

They could still exist in the Fallout universe, only with a slightly fucked tweaking to them.


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Yes, he will. It'll be an Easter egg where just off the strip there's a synogogue, and inside there's a skeleton with a pile of gay porn and dildos around it. That's Analog.

FTW.

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I don't know about zombie clowns.. that sounds kinda retarded.. besides, circus circus casino is crap....


I think that they have people that believe some of casinos are build by gods.. I don't think the residents should all know its a old gambling town.


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post Apr 21 2009, 07:11 PM
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Here are some enemy possibilities:

Horned toad, plenty of dangerous spikes that would undoubtedly be larger in a post-war world.


Rattlesnake, this one's a given.


Golden Eagle. It's time for a real flying threat, not those fucking Bloatflies.


Mormon Crickets. They stay in large groups and are cannibalistic.



Tarantula. Obvious.


And this is the most dangerous mother fucker in the Wasteland.


Also throw in Coyotes (slightly tougher than FO3's dogs), and mountain lions (about the same as a Yau Guai).

Plus, there are a few nuclear testing sites in the area.

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QUOTE(DuPz0r™ @ Apr 21 2009, 01:23 PM) [snapback]1497622[/snapback]
I think casino chips will be the new bottlecaps.


If it wasn't before, it is now.


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QUOTE(Massacre @ Apr 21 2009, 03:11 PM) [snapback]1497657[/snapback]
And this is the most dangerous mother fucker in the Wasteland.

I'd hate to run into a mutant one of these mutant lagomorphs.

I also like the ideas of eagles, horned toads and rattlesnakes.

I was thinking about getting around New Vegas.
They don't have metros. I doubt the double-decker bus shuttle line will still be up and running.

On a side note, there are quite a few Vegas themed games in the works... (Fallout New Vegas, Dead Rising, This is Vegas, etc.) Might have to plan a trip soon.

Analog, I'm staying with you and your Jewish mother.
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I think Vegas was on an episode of Cities of the Underworld (love that show). If it's the episode I'm thinking of, the Mafia had tunnels under some of the city. Or maybe that was prohibition-era Chicago.

QUOTE(Stoic Person Eater @ Apr 21 2009, 04:07 PM) [snapback]1497665[/snapback]
Analog, I'm staying with you and your Jewish mother.

You mean Ruth? She's a lovely woman. Her matzo ball soup is heavenly.

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QUOTE(Massacre @ Apr 21 2009, 04:09 PM) [snapback]1497667[/snapback]
I think Vegas was on an episode of Cities of the Underworld (love that show). If it's the episode I'm thinking of, the Mafia had tunnels under some of the city. Or maybe that was prohibition-era Chicago.

There are large underground vaults, just like in Ocean's 11. Perhaps there is an intricate system of tunnels... or there could be...
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Oh, good one. The "you're on the internet so you must have no life" insult isn't moronic or unoriginal at all. You must, without a doubt, be a very important member of society, not at all a waste of the already barely valuable gift of life.

As is the case for everyone who takes issue with people who make them sad on the internet, you are one of two kinds of people:

You are exactly what you claim I am, and that is a lonely, pathetic basement dweller. You life is spent eating eight pounds of junk food per day, masturbating to anything you find online that's even remotely feminine, and wishing you had good looks and social skills. You continue to live with your mother until she dies of a combination of lung cancer and liver failure brought on by the chain-smoking and heavy drinking she used to cope with what a failure you are. Your mother mercifully dead and free of the living embodiment of failure she regretfully thrust from her loins, the bills start to pile up and you, unemployed and unable to pay these bills (of course), lose the house and everything in it. Somehow even more of a failure than you already were, you wander from place to place eating out of dumpsters and sleeping in your own filth until you finally die of AIDS, which you contracted from a diseased whore you scrounged up enough money to pay for, so you could finally lose your virginity while at the same time pretending that your mother was back in your life.

Or:

You are the type who was an athlete in high school, who was genetically doomed to be an idiot but managed to finish school and even get a college scholarship because you were so good at a worthless children's game. You went off to college with a suitcase full of polo shirts and condoms, the polo shirts, because you're a douche, and the condoms to prevent you from impregnating the dim-witted young college girls whom you could never touch without the aid of Rohypnol, a drug you refer to as "roofies" because you can neither spell or pronounce Rohypnol. You scrape by with borderline D's for the next four years, and leave the campus to go out into the real world where your realize you're not intelligent or talented enough to do anything of value with your life. Misery and minimum wage ensues for thirty years, then you blow your brains out, and your corpse, alone and forgotten, is not discovered until the smell of rotting flesh seeps under your door and your bodily fluids finally soak through the floor of your studio apartment and into the room below you. Your body is cremated, the ashes scraped into a garbage bin because there was no one in your life who valued you enough to pay for a casket, funeral, or burial plot.

You're undoubtedly one of the two, otherwise you would have better things to do than complain about the theme of a forum that doesn't care about anything you have to say.
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