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post Apr 21 2009, 12:26 PM
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k, I'm new here, so let everyone flame the shit out of my response...

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. How many times have you seen a gun just jump off the table, load itself, point and shoot at someone? I'd guess never.

Gun control laws don't work. Fully automatic assault rifles have been illegal in the US for as long as I can remember, and people still get a hold of them and use them to kill each other.


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post Apr 23 2009, 01:52 AM
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These sites aren't biased at all.

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k, I'm new here, so let everyone flame the shit out of my response...

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. How many times have you seen a gun just jump off the table, load itself, point and shoot at someone? I'd guess never.

Gun control laws don't work. Fully automatic assault rifles have been illegal in the US for as long as I can remember, and people still get a hold of them and use them to kill each other.
When was the last time you saw a kid kill 10 people with his bare hands?

Not that that's a conclusive argument on my end, but it's equally disingenuous.


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post Apr 23 2009, 06:39 AM
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When was the last time you saw a kid kill 10 people with his bare hands?

When he says "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."it's obviously hyperbole. The point to be made, is that in the hands of law abiding citizens, guns do no damage (well, there are accidental shootings, but the scale of the problem is so minor that they aren't even mentioned in the US government's health reports), and it's impossible to stop them from falling in to the hands of criminals.


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post Apr 23 2009, 06:53 AM
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post Apr 23 2009, 11:59 AM
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These sites aren't biased at all.

Good idea, attack the source, then you won't have to come up with a proper argument!
True the source is never relevant.


QUOTE(Marilyn.Manson @ Apr 21 2009, 01:26 PM) [snapback]1497559[/snapback]
k, I'm new here, so let everyone flame the shit out of my response...

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. How many times have you seen a gun just jump off the table, load itself, point and shoot at someone? I'd guess never.

Gun control laws don't work. Fully automatic assault rifles have been illegal in the US for as long as I can remember, and people still get a hold of them and use them to kill each other.
When was the last time you saw a kid kill 10 people with his bare hands?

Not that that's a conclusive argument on my end, but it's equally disingenuous.

What I meant is that guns don't kill people on their own. People wielding guns kill people.

As far as your reference to the 10 year old killing someone with his or her bare hands, I have no response other than I can't believe you asked that. You obviously didn't understand what I was trying to say. dry.gif


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post Apr 23 2009, 04:38 PM
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I still blame rappers.
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post Apr 23 2009, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(marney1 @ Apr 23 2009, 11:38 AM) [snapback]1498117[/snapback]
I still blame rappers.

For what? Making guns sound cool? If so, then you should blame Dungeons & Dragons for making killing mythical creatures cool. You could blame rock & roll for sensationalizing sex and drugs. While you're at it, why don't you piss on the constitution because it gives people the right to bear arms? I know you have the right to your opinion, and that you have the right to speak your mind. That's all fine and dandy, but to blame the gun problem on rappers is short-sighted and inane.

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post Apr 23 2009, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(Darth Sexy @ Apr 12 2009, 04:06 AM) [snapback]1495239[/snapback]
I really can't be arsed arguing endlessly about whether gun control kills more people or not. All I'll say is that in Australia, where we have strict gun control laws, I can't think of any school shootings, and only a handful of armed mass murders.



Same with Canada.


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post Apr 23 2009, 07:48 PM
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I still blame rappers.

For what? Making guns sound cool? If so, then you should blame Dungeons & Dragons for making killing mythical creatures cool. You could blame rock & roll for sensationalizing sex and drugs. While you're at it, why don't you piss on the constitution because it gives people the right to bear arms? I know you have the right to your opinion, and that you have the right to speak your mind. That's all fine and dandy, but to blame the gun problem on rappers is short-sighted and inane.


Fucking hell man! Get real I've already had my say, its a fucking joke - do you really think thats my opinion?
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post Apr 23 2009, 08:42 PM
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I hate the way rap music takes the rap (lol) for gun violence, maybe gangsta rap yes, but there are many subgenres of rap that don't involve lyrics about guns, sure there are plenty that mention guns in a way that mocks the gangsta imagery and glorification of guns.

Anyway that's my semi-serious opinion.


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post Apr 24 2009, 01:51 AM
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Aw fuck. This is why I've been an NRA member the last four years...

The only thing excessive gun control does is limit the law-abiding citizen from protecting himself. You could ban guns, and criminals would still be able to get hold of them. And if Obama and that fucking whore Nancy Pelosi think they're going to take away my guns, they can fuck off. It's my American right to keep them. </hillbilly mattay>


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post Apr 24 2009, 02:08 AM
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post Apr 24 2009, 11:59 AM
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I still blame rappers.

For what? Making guns sound cool? If so, then you should blame Dungeons & Dragons for making killing mythical creatures cool. You could blame rock & roll for sensationalizing sex and drugs. While you're at it, why don't you piss on the constitution because it gives people the right to bear arms? I know you have the right to your opinion, and that you have the right to speak your mind. That's all fine and dandy, but to blame the gun problem on rappers is short-sighted and inane.


Fucking hell man! Get real I've already had my say, its a fucking joke - do you really think thats my opinion?

Being that I am new here and that I don't know anyone yet (nor do I know how they think and act), I can't say if I know that it's your opinion or not. For the time being, and until I get to know people out here, I have to take what you say at face value (unless what you say is blatantly and obviously a joke). In the case of your statement about rappers, there was no indication in this thread or your post to indicate that you were joking.

If it isn't your opinion that rap music is to be blamed for gun violence, then why did you post that it should be?


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post Apr 24 2009, 01:58 PM
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I still blame rappers.

For what? Making guns sound cool? If so, then you should blame Dungeons & Dragons for making killing mythical creatures cool. You could blame rock & roll for sensationalizing sex and drugs. While you're at it, why don't you piss on the constitution because it gives people the right to bear arms? I know you have the right to your opinion, and that you have the right to speak your mind. That's all fine and dandy, but to blame the gun problem on rappers is short-sighted and inane.


Fucking hell man! Get real I've already had my say, its a fucking joke - do you really think thats my opinion?

Being that I am new here and that I don't know anyone yet (nor do I know how they think and act), I can't say if I know that it's your opinion or not. For the time being, and until I get to know people out here, I have to take what you say at face value (unless what you say is blatantly and obviously a joke). In the case of your statement about rappers, there was no indication in this thread or your post to indicate that you were joking.

If it isn't your opinion that rap music is to be blamed for gun violence, then why did you post that it should be?


Because it was a fucking joooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooke!!!!!!!
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post Apr 24 2009, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(Marilyn.Manson @ Apr 24 2009, 12:59 PM) [snapback]1498307[/snapback]
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I still blame rappers.

For what? Making guns sound cool? If so, then you should blame Dungeons & Dragons for making killing mythical creatures cool. You could blame rock & roll for sensationalizing sex and drugs. While you're at it, why don't you piss on the constitution because it gives people the right to bear arms? I know you have the right to your opinion, and that you have the right to speak your mind. That's all fine and dandy, but to blame the gun problem on rappers is short-sighted and inane.


Fucking hell man! Get real I've already had my say, its a fucking joke - do you really think thats my opinion?

Being that I am new here and that I don't know anyone yet (nor do I know how they think and act), I can't say if I know that it's your opinion or not. For the time being, and until I get to know people out here, I have to take what you say at face value (unless what you say is blatantly and obviously a joke). In the case of your statement about rappers, there was no indication in this thread or your post to indicate that you were joking.

If it isn't your opinion that rap music is to be blamed for gun violence, then why did you post that it should be?

I have no idea why but I read that with the voice of Michael Jackson in my head, seems to make more sense that way.

On the issue of guns and shiz, no one should have them, but if they are already there you might as well just restrict the high powered ones, because as people are saying the criminals will still be able to get hold of all sorts so if everyone can have low powered ones for defence, then that will solve that problem without giving everyone snipers.


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QUOTE(psychÝ @ Apr 25 2009, 02:29 AM) [snapback]1498388[/snapback]
no one should have them

Of course they should. Just presenting guns stop thousands of crime every year. Why should people not have them?


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post Apr 25 2009, 03:16 PM
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This video dates from before the election of
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no one should have them

Of course they should. Just presenting guns stop thousands of crime every year. Why should people not have them?

Because people are morons.


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Weeell, I gotta say Hitler did gun control, and look how that turned out.
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Banning guns or ammunition is never gonna solve theproblem. Crimminals are always gonna be just that. I love my 11 guns alot. And i plan to get more. people need to get off their damn high horse that have them thinking that they, because it seems to make society in their view more sophisticated and evolved if no one owns guns, is the only answer. IT ISN'T! Guns will always be around so get used to them. And if by some chance, as unlikely it will be, that guns were banned at least in the U.S., then we will start making our own. A world without weapons is only a perfect world for robots, not people. It is in our blood to kill, to engage in a hunt, to take any measure to protect ourselves. Fact is you have the right not to buy guns if you so choose. And when it comes down to it, the same guy or group of guys that try to rob you at gun point will also take the same chance robbing you at knife point. And when it comes to close quarters you are more likely to survive a gun assult than a knife assult. It doesn't make them any less dangerous of society any more safe when you remove someones right to carry a gun for protection or own one to protect their home.
If you wanna live in a world without guns, then i wanna live in a world without you. I think i would be safer, who knows what other freedoms hobbies or vices you would want to take away from me once guns are gone.
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