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post Jan 28 2009, 01:16 AM
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Sad thing is, If Obama was white most people would shut the fuck up and not complain about him being elected. Sad but true.

Reality is that some people dont like him based on his beliefs, actions, etc. Then there are the others who will never like him because he is part 'black' and they come up with any little thing to try to make him look bad.

McCain would have been more of the same, and I can honestly say that me being black, I still would have voted for Obama even if he was white, although I know a lot of blacks who voted for Obama just because his race which imo is not right.

Too many racists in this country and for what? You cant help what color you are when you are born. And to call Obama black is just rediculous. Hes more white than anything, being raised by his white mother and white grandparents. Hes not black he is mixed and people who are racist can just fuck off. I dont agree with everything Obama says or has done yet but I dont think McCain was the right choice.

Btw you dont live in America so you have no say so. You couldn't vote. Worry about your own country

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QUOTE(Phil Mipe Enos @ Jan 28 2009, 01:16 AM) [snapback]1480913[/snapback]
Btw you dont live in America so you have no say so. You couldn't vote. Worry about your own country
This is a well thought-out and all-encompassing view and I feel more people should think like this, America only deals in its own affairs within its own borders.


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QUOTE(Phil Mipe Enos @ Jan 27 2009, 09:16 PM) [snapback]1480913[/snapback]
Sad thing is, If Obama was white most people would shut the fuck up and not complain about him being elected. Sad but true.

Reality is that some people dont like him based on his beliefs, actions, etc. Then there are the others who will never like him because he is part 'black' and they come up with any little thing to try to make him look bad.

McCain would have been more of the same, and I can honestly say that me being black, I still would have voted for Obama even if he was white, although I know a lot of blacks who voted for Obama just because his race which imo is not right.

Too many racists in this country and for what? You cant help what color you are when you are born. And to call Obama black is just rediculous. Hes more white than anything, being raised by his white mother and white grandparents. Hes not black he is mixed and people who are racist can just fuck off. I dont agree with everything Obama says or has done yet but I dont think McCain was the right choice.

Btw you dont live in America so you have no say so. You couldn't vote. Worry about your own country

Making one another look bad? They have always done that when they run for president, where have you been? Sounds like your trying to make one thing into another.

The people I see as the biggest racists are the ones pointing the fingers most the time (The way you word that makes me think you are). During Obama's campaign, they were subtly implying if you don't vote for him your racist all the time even now that hes president he's got all these people around him implying such stupid nonsense still. No racism isn't gone, but you and Obama's people (Not black people alone tard, I know you thought that) over blowing it. Yes they were racist only to get more votes, doesn't change what they did. Any way to fight dirty, both sides always will.

Despite saying that, I did vote for Obama on my own accord of reasons, but your a retard if you believe what you just said.

Also other countries can say whatever they want, and so can we. Fact of the matter is what we do effects them and vice versa, no country is just gonna stand by an say nothing at their own expense. Criticism isn't any different.


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post Jan 28 2009, 04:40 AM
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QUOTE(Phil Mipe Enos @ Jan 28 2009, 01:16 AM) [snapback]1480913[/snapback]
Sad thing is, If Obama was white most people would shut the fuck up and not complain about him being elected. Sad but true.


well, i reckon if the white man was compared to the likes of Kenedy BEFORE HE EVEN TOOK OFFICE, and if he continued to hold meaningless election rallies way after his election, then i'd have to say i'd be pretty suspicious of him.

Obama hasn't done anything yet, he's just like the rest of 'em till he proves otherwise. Politicians are after all, politicians.




This topic sums up my feels thus far about the "election"

http://www.gta4.tv/forums/index.php?showtopic=790009


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post Jan 28 2009, 01:57 PM
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I love how you distance yourself from the term "election"...


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QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ Jan 28 2009, 04:40 AM) [snapback]1480938[/snapback]
QUOTE(Phil Mipe Enos @ Jan 28 2009, 01:16 AM) [snapback]1480913[/snapback]
Sad thing is, If Obama was white most people would shut the fuck up and not complain about him being elected. Sad but true.


well, i reckon if the white man was compared to the likes of Kenedy BEFORE HE EVEN TOOK OFFICE, and if he continued to hold meaningless election rallies way after his election, then i'd have to say i'd be pretty suspicious of him.

Obama hasn't done anything yet, he's just like the rest of 'em till he proves otherwise. Politicians are after all, politicians.




This topic sums up my feels thus far about the "election"

http://www.gta4.tv/forums/index.php?showtopic=790009


Politics- Breakdown: pol⋅i⋅tics [pol-i-tiks]

–noun (used with a singular or plural verb)
Pol⋅i [pol-ee] pol⋅y

-made of or containing more than one element or object

Tics (tĭk) ticks

-Any of numerous small bloodsucking parasitic arachnids of the family Ixodidae, many of which transmit febrile diseases, such as Rocky Mountain spotted fever and Lyme disease.
-Any of various usually wingless, louselike insects of the family Hippobosciddae that are parasitic on sheep, goats, and other animals.

So when you place them together you get Politics-meaning more than one bloodsucking parasitic asshole affiliated with any political party and is involved in running local, state, or federal government office from the presidency to a councilman. Steer clear of them they are a dangerous creature and are very good at fucking things up. No one is immune, once you get near one you'll regret it.


Theres POLITICS for any of you that are new to the subject






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post Jan 28 2009, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(new major on the block @ Jan 28 2009, 04:52 PM) [snapback]1480992[/snapback]
QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ Jan 28 2009, 04:40 AM) [snapback]1480938[/snapback]
QUOTE(Phil Mipe Enos @ Jan 28 2009, 01:16 AM) [snapback]1480913[/snapback]
Sad thing is, If Obama was white most people would shut the fuck up and not complain about him being elected. Sad but true.


well, i reckon if the white man was compared to the likes of Kenedy BEFORE HE EVEN TOOK OFFICE, and if he continued to hold meaningless election rallies way after his election, then i'd have to say i'd be pretty suspicious of him.

Obama hasn't done anything yet, he's just like the rest of 'em till he proves otherwise. Politicians are after all, politicians.




This topic sums up my feels thus far about the "election"

http://www.gta4.tv/forums/index.php?showtopic=790009


Politics- Breakdown: pol⋅i⋅tics [pol-i-tiks]

–noun (used with a singular or plural verb)
Pol⋅i [pol-ee] pol⋅y

-made of or containing more than one element or object

Tics (tĭk) ticks

-Any of numerous small bloodsucking parasitic arachnids of the family Ixodidae, many of which transmit febrile diseases, such as Rocky Mountain spotted fever and Lyme disease.
-Any of various usually wingless, louselike insects of the family Hippobosciddae that are parasitic on sheep, goats, and other animals.

So when you place them together you get Politics-meaning more than one bloodsucking parasitic asshole affiliated with any political party and is involved in running local, state, or federal government office from the presidency to a councilman. Steer clear of them they are a dangerous creature and are very good at fucking things up. No one is immune, once you get near one you'll regret it.


Theres POLITICS for any of you that are new to the subject



Whhhhhhhhssssssstttt!
Couldn't have said it better myself.

At least he's black. Or sort of....whatever.
Now maybe the Black community will "simmer down" on Whitey...

Now maybe the White community will "simmer down" on the Black community...

Or it could all be fucked.....

I'm leanin' towards the latter....

Optimism is hard to sustain in this day and age....

I'm just sick to death of hearing propaganda from both sides...
He said...She said.....Republican...Democrat....

Can a brother get a Libratarian one time!?!?!?!?

I'm not a "brother" btw.....

I'd just like to see someone totally off the fuckin' wall get in there....

But who would that be..... Psy!

Up to the task?

Well...





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^Great post^

Why is there a sudden surge in support for lolbertarianism on this forum? Everywhere else in the world, it seems to have been recognised as being discredited, at least in its most rampant forms...


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its fashionable and trendwhorish... thats why.

Mello, those posts seem arrogantly foolish, not great.


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Sorry for taking so long, back to school this week >>

QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ Jan 25 2009, 07:27 AM) [snapback]1480521[/snapback]
Why do you need to own assault weapons for anyway? Aren't hand guns and rifles enough?

Please do some research. If you had, you would know that “Assault weapon” is an invented term. In the firearm lexicon, there is no such thing as an “assault weapon”. The closest relative is the “assault rifle”, which is a machine gun or “select fire” rifle that fires rifle cartridges. In most cases, “assault weapons” are functionally identical to hunting rifles, though cosmetically similar to military guns.

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Fannie and Freddie gave LOANS based on overstated incomes because the banks selling the mortgage product didn't do their job and make sure that their clients provided proof of income.
And look what happened to them. They didn't do their job and they're going out of business, not Obama and his liberal ilk support giving them a bailout to say "it's okay, don't do your job, the government will always have you back at the expense of the taxpayer".

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Also, don't be so stupid.

Stay classy, liberals...

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Just because the government sponsors mortgages it doesn't mean they have control over freddie or fanny or are involved in anyway in their operations.
It does mean that the government promoted mortgages to people with bad or no credit, when they shouldn't have:

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YES YES YES MONEY HAS A LOW RATE OF RETURN! THATS THE HOLE POINT THE FEDERAL RESERVE DOES NOT WANT PEOPLE INVESTING IN RESERVE NOTES! THATS WHAT I SAID. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. THATS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT.

When did I say anything about the rate of return? Both have low rates of returns, that's why they were used, gold is more stable, and the value thereof is controlled by the market, where as fiat currency, is controlled by the federal reserve, who thought it would be a good idea to double the money supply after they were opened. Look how that worked out.

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it has had a greater rate of return that gold, as well.
YES YES YES GOLD HAS A LOW RATE OF RETURN! THATS THE HOLE POINT GOLD'S VALUE DOESN'T CHANGE TOO OFTEN SO IT HAS A LOW RATE OF RETURN! THATS WHAT I SAID. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. THATS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT.

QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Jan 29 2009, 12:16 PM) [snapback]1481016[/snapback]

Why is there a sudden surge in support for lolbertarianism on this forum? Everywhere else in the world, it seems to have been recognised as being discredited, at least in its most rampant forms...

Discredit by who? Your collectivist liberal college professor who loves to teach people that if the government is big enough then all problems will be solved and gum drop trees will plop up everywhere while children play in the chocolate rivers that run through the land?

Libertarianism is gaining so much appeal over socialism because people are starting to see the negative effects of too much government. Look how well the war on drugs turned out. Look how well welfare turned out. Look how well the war in Iraq turned out etc.

I probably shouldn't have bothered responding, since you made no valid political or economic comment, you merely made a pun and used an appeal to authority.

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its fashionable and trendwhorish...

ROFLMAO!

A political ideology is trendy? Nevermind all the countless works done by the Austrian school that explain much about economics, nevermind that Milton Friedman won a nobel prize and was an economic advisor to Ronald Reagan, nevermind that Margret Thatcher's understanding of economics came from the work of Hayek, and nevermind that Peter Schiff predicted the financial crises while the democrats and republican liberals were telling everyone how good things were. it's just a "trend". rolleyes.gif LOL.

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QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Jan 29 2009, 12:16 PM) [snapback]1481016[/snapback]

Why is there a sudden surge in support for lolbertarianism on this forum? Everywhere else in the world, it seems to have been recognised as being discredited, at least in its most rampant forms...

Discredit by who? Your collectivist liberal college professor who loves to teach people that if the government is big enough then all problems will be solved and gum drop trees will plop up everywhere while children play in the chocolate rivers that run through the land?

Libertarianism is gaining so much appeal over socialism because people are starting to see the negative effects of too much government. Look how well the war on drugs turned out. Look how well welfare turned out. Look how well the war in Iraq turned out etc.

I probably shouldn't have bothered responding, since you made no valid political or economic comment, you merely made a pun and used an appeal to authority.
I study medicine. There's no need to be so presumptuous. I know, who the Hell am I, you've been learning about politics for 4 months or something now, what on Earth can a scientist know? Well I have this much on you: My views on politics are my own, and were not force-fed to me by some narrowly-read dickbag with a goatee, a degree in comparative politics, an Inland Revenue audit and no real life experience.

That you consider the war in Iraq and the war on drugs socialist conspiracies really shows that you need to read a few more books with a more open mind.

There aren't many things I know for sure, but I can recognise when a political movement recedes (no pun intended) in popularity because of a series of events. The basic point is, banks were not regulated, and the economy fell apart. I'm aware of all the libertarian arguments against that. These don't hold water out side of hardcore lolbert circles. I'm not going to derail the topic and argue about socialism against libertarianism (like I said, I don't know many things for sure, but you seem to have life figured out so I'll leave you to it) but it's quite clear that if there was anyone with mainstream political views could be bothered reading your long-ass posts and debunking them, the zeitgeist in this forum would be different. And it's no coincidence that the dumbest and most impressionable political community I've been part of has taken to libertarianism, against the prevailing tides of public opinion.

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its fashionable and trendwhorish...

ROFLMAO!

A political ideology is trendy? Nevermind all the countless works done by the Austrian school that explain much about economics, nevermind that Milton Friedman won a nobel prize and was an economic advisor to Ronald Reagan, nevermind that Margret Thatcher's understanding of economics came from the work of Hayek, and nevermind that Peter Schiff predicted the financial crises while the democrats and republican liberals were telling everyone how good things were. it's just a "trend". :rolleyes: LOL.
Do you have any idea what a trend is?

in b4 a specific definition that clearly isn't the one everyone else means.

[Edit] To stop weaseling, I'll just define it:

"1. the general course or prevailing tendency; drift: trends in the teaching of foreign languages; the trend of events.
2. style; vogue: the new trend in women's apparel.
3. the general direction followed by a road, river, coastline, or the like.
–verb (used without object)
4. to have a general tendency, as events, conditions, etc.
5. to tend to take a particular direction; extend in some direction indicated.

6. to veer or turn off in a specified direction, as a river, mountain range, etc.: The river trends toward the southeast. ."
- Random House

"trend noun 1 a general direction or tendency. 2 the current general movement in fashion, style, taste, etc. verb (trended, trending) intrans to turn or have a tendency to turn in a specified direction - Chambers

"Trend, n. Inclination in a particular direction; tendency; general direction; as, the trend of a coast." - Webster

"Thinking with a tendency toward or centreing on a particular idea with a particular affect." - Newcastle University medical school reference site

Synonyms (Thesaurus.com):
bias
cast
disposition
leaning
partiality
penchant
predilection
predisposition
proclivity
propensity
squint
tendency

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you've been learning about politics for 4 months or something now

Wow. An appeal to ridicule. Didn't see that one coming.

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Well I have this much on you: My views on politics are my own, and were not force-fed to me by some narrowly-read dickbag with a goatee, a degree in comparative politics, an Inland Revenue audit and no real life experience.
If they were your own, that would mean you reached your conclusion that the government was inherently a positive economic agent through an analysis. Since you gave no valid anti-libertarian response, I assumed this wasn't the case; you merely said "I thought it had been discredited" which is a clear appeal to authority.

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That you consider the war in Iraq and the war on drugs socialist conspiracies really shows that you need to read a few more books with a more open mind.

Did I say socialist conspiracies? No, I implied that neoconservatism fails for the same reason socialism fails: too much government. Tell me, how is it that you think controlling people personal lives will fail, yet running their economic lives will be a rousing success? Because it seems there is a double standard applied here by the anti-war socialist. Tell me now, why can I have freedom over my body, but not freedom over the contents of my bank account?

And I have read some socialist work, and it was very hard not to dismiss it has a morality rant. I read some of Socialism After Hayek, and it basically said that people who buy things don't really own them, people only own what they build. It also advocated seizing all property owned by corporate stakeholders and handing it over to the workers (then what are people going to retire on?). This wasn't some crackpot junk found on a conspiracy site, this is an actual work often refereed to by socialists in debate.

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I can recognise when a political movement recedes (no pun intended) in popularity because of a series of events.
Then why aren't you an anti-socialist? You would think once price control started destroying small businesses, the labour unions raped employment and welfare dependency started raping poor communities, you would give a sympathetic ear to the working class you think you are protecting, and denounce statism. So obviously you can't recognize when a serious of events make an ideology lose credibility. >>

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The basic point is, banks were not regulated

Actually, that's not true at all. Watch the video I posted. The government, in their attempts to "make home ownership more achievable" sponsored thousands of bad loans from the financial institutions that them, and all the liberals thought were sound. You claim that only the interventionists understand the economic problems, then why was it a noninterventionist that predicted them?

[youtube]2I0QN-FYkpw[/youtube]


This actually rapes your argument that libertarians don't understand the problems, since we were the ones predicting it while the liberals fought us on the position (the man in that video was going to be Ron Paul's main economic adviser). Very amusing.

Also, would you care to explain why banks that want all their money back, are going to lend to someone who can't give it to them? That's like saying we should regulate football coaches to make sure they pick good players. The problem was that they were sponsored mortgages and they thought they had nothing to lose.

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and the economy fell apart.
Also thought I'd point out that the economy hasn't fallen apart. The housing bubble burst so majority of companies have to downsize to meet the now lower demand for most products.

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it's quite clear that if there was anyone with mainstream political views could be bothered reading your long-ass posts and debunking them, the zeitgeist in this forum would be different.

right, the zeitgeist on this forum is so libertarian because nobody has tried to debunk any of my posts... oh wait, punxtr tried in the drugs topic and psycho tried in this topic, so that flies in the face of your "nobody can be bothered arguing, that's why you don't get raped all over the forum for your absurd and radical beliefs" argument.

Also, I don't know where you argument that libertarianism isn't highly thought of in the eyes of the public came from. Ever heard of Ron Paul? The guy who won every text message/internet poll during the republican primaries? The guy who collected record amount of campaign donations? Clearly not, or you wouldn't be making such painfully simplistic statements.

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Do you have any idea what a trend is?

QD's post implied that it was a trend, in the sense that people like the exotic label (hence why it followed the word 'fashionable'), this isn't the case, as the theories obviously have much basis in reality.


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Looks like an appeal to wasting my time tbh.

I made an anthropological observation, and you try to cut it down with a factual argument. That shows a basic misunderstanding of what the hell either of us is talking about.

I made a factual argument, and you then started appealing to authority (Nobel prizes etc.).

I said nothing of the merit of either system. Stop trying to draw me into arguments so you can wag your dick around. I don't have an hour to answer each of your posts, I'm busy these days and frankly I have better ways to spend my rare free time than arguing with a testosteronal brick wall.

One thing I would like to say about all your arguments though: People's personal lives are made up of a series of tangible effects. The economy is an imaginary construct which cannot exist without enforcement, and did not exist before enforcement. The two are distinct, and this is an unanswerable truth. Call it an appeal to compassion and realism, if that suits you better.


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QUOTE(Amarillo Suave @ Feb 2 2009, 06:44 PM) [snapback]1481463[/snapback]
I made an anthropological observation, and you try to cut it down with a factual argument.

Actually, when you say things like "The basic point is, banks were not regulated, and the economy fell apart." or question how popular something is, you are using a factual argument, although you didn't provide any facts, where as I did...

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I made a factual argument, and you then started appealing to authority (Nobel prizes etc.).
That wasn't an appeal to authority. You said it had been discredited everywhere except this forum; a libertarian winning a Nobel prize for his economic theories shows otherwise.

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I said nothing of the merit of either system.

Actually, you did when you referred to it as "lolbertarianism" and said The basic point is, banks were not regulated, and the economy fell apart."

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Stop trying to draw me into arguments so you can wag your dick around.
This is the political section. Why did you come in here and make a post if you weren't looking for a debate? Maybe next time you should keep your thought to yourself if you feel you are incapable of putting them down on paper (or in this case, a screen, whatever). And despite you "not having the time" you still seemed to respond to my posts.

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I don't have an hour to answer each of your posts

It takes you an hour to make one of these posts? LOL.

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People's personal lives are made up of a series of tangible effects.
You really need to elaborate more on this...

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The economy is an imaginary construct which cannot exist without enforcement, and did not exist before enforcement.

No, this is a clear fallacy. Price fixing, minimum wages etc. are all somewhat new in the western world. There was free trade for hundreds of years before the new deal. Get your facts right.


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Read back, you quoted the wrong part of my posts and answered them with information relevent to different kinds of arguments, as already specified.

I didn't come to the political board to have the argument you want to have, regardless of the topic.

It takes time to answer an argument properly. I know you're used to something a five year old could scrawl at recess.


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Skinny, you must be taking English 101 or Philosophy 101... with all this "poor argument".... appeal this and appeal that...

thats great in philosophy class, but in the real world its meaningless.


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QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ Feb 3 2009, 11:07 AM) [snapback]1481575[/snapback]
Skinny, you must be taking English 101 or Philosophy 101... with all this "poor argument".... appeal this and appeal that...

If an argument is poor or if someone is using an appeal to ridicule or authority fallacy, why not point it out?

And it applies perfectly well in real life. Appeals to ridicule (aka, personal attacks or ad hominem) are not valid in debate. I was simply pointing that out.

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I didn't come to the political board to have the argument you want to have, regardless of the topic.

You came in and said "lolbertarianism was discredited lawls" then you backtracked and said you didn't want to have a discussion over the validity of such an system. Then why did you even make that post at all?

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Oh shit... another appeal to ridicule, didn't see that coming!!


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QUOTE(Phil Mipe Enos @ Jan 28 2009, 01:16 AM) [snapback]1480913[/snapback]
Sad thing is, If Obama was white most people would shut the fuck up and not complain about him being elected. Sad but true.

Reality is that some people dont like him based on his beliefs, actions, etc. Then there are the others who will never like him because he is part 'black' and they come up with any little thing to try to make him look bad.

McCain would have been more of the same, and I can honestly say that me being black, I still would have voted for Obama even if he was white, although I know a lot of blacks who voted for Obama just because his race which imo is not right.

Too many racists in this country and for what? You cant help what color you are when you are born. And to call Obama black is just rediculous. Hes more white than anything, being raised by his white mother and white grandparents. Hes not black he is mixed and people who are racist can just fuck off. I dont agree with everything Obama says or has done yet but I dont think McCain was the right choice.

Btw you dont live in America so you have no say so. You couldn't vote. Worry about your own country

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Whenever I make a valid point by hyperbole you call it an appeal to ridicule, every time I make a point which validly invokes a widely held opinion, you call it an appeal to authority and expect the argument to be done with.

QD is exactly right, it's freshman logic class fare, and isn't nearly as smart as you think it is.

As for the libertarianism post, it was in answer to one individual rant which was about nominating Psy for a white house run in 2012. I think an appeal to authority is not just the most insane thing when comparing this site with it's 14 year old userbase (AAAH APPEAL TO RIDICULE APPEAL TO RIDICULE FOURTEEN) to the wider world. It was not an invitation to argue about whether libertarianism or socialism is better. I didn't even mention socialism until you did. If you were smart, you would let this die. But you won't.

[Edit] By the way, appealing to popularity is closer to what I've been doing -- I've not dropped any names or that sort of thing. Close though, and I'm sure you'll learn about it next semester.

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