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post Jun 25 2008, 04:43 AM
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It's been brought to my attention, that some people (cough, cough, hitman540), believe homosexuality and lesbianism is immoral, and it's rather off topic to dabate it in the Atheims/Christianity topic. So I made this to discuss it. Here is the gist of what I was saying.

Sexual evolution is a part of both physical evolution and evolutionary psychology, why else do you think humans are the only animals who's women have permanently engorged breasts? We have evolved sexualy to become one of the only animals that receive pleasure from sex, obviously some of us are going to go with the same sex rather than the opposite.

Some people think it's a choice, but doing it is a choice, wanting to isn't, and there is nothing that says they can't.

EDIT: There's no real proof that sexual orientation is genetic (it is being studied ), and evidence points to it being a series of genes combined with social and psychological factors that make you gay. That's probably true if it's like any other form of preference (favourite food, what characteristics you find are more attractive in a sexual partner etc.), but I doubt there is any gay gene (then some nut job could attack the gene). If it is genetic, that's more proof that hitman (along wiht other religios nuts) is an idiot, along with the evolutionary causes for it existing in the first place.

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post Jun 25 2008, 01:34 PM
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If there was a cure to give to gays, to turn them straight it should be forced upon them to take it.


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post Jun 25 2008, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(TrIgGeR HaPpY @ Jun 25 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]1450524[/snapback]
If there was a cure to give to gays, to turn them straight it should be forced upon them to take it.


i assume you're joking. If not, you're trying to impress people coming like you're the macho homophobe man, and you look like a tit.

It's not really anyone else's business what sexuality you are. I don't like to see two men kissing but then again I don't like seeing straight couples getting off unless its on my computer and there's a box of tissues within reach.

Sexuality should, imo, be a private thing. I hate gays who are so fucking happy with themselves for having the confidence to come out that they need to run around squealing and flapping their arms like seals. It's ok to be camp, but not in-your-face camp. It's the same with some girls who are raw slags in public.
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post Jun 25 2008, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(TrIgGeR HaPpY @ Jun 25 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]1450524[/snapback]
If there was a cure to give to gays, to turn them straight it should be forced upon them to take it.

I think Hitler had the same logic.
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post Jun 25 2008, 02:45 PM
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I don't see why you even brought genetics into this, there is no genetic evidence for any of it, none, it is a moot point.

On the other aspect of the topic I couldn't really care less who you shag, it isn't immoral in any way and anyone who claims it is is just an idiot.


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post Jun 25 2008, 03:04 PM
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Homophobes are out and out fucking idiots, I know a few gays, one being my best friend, who up until recently he was shagging girls, watching straight or lesbo porn and just generally being (fuck I hate this word, damn it to hell) a lad.
Then he turns to me and tells me he's gay, just like that. Is he wrong? Was he a better person when he was straight?

What's wrong Trigger Happy? Feeling a bit confused? Too scared to come out, are you? Nob.


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post Jun 25 2008, 03:25 PM
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The best thing for me to do is just walk away.
I have an opinion and only Me and God know its true. and thats all that matters to me.

psycho in response to what u posted in the other thread: God help you.


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post Jun 25 2008, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(hitman540 @ Jun 25 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]1450566[/snapback]
God help you.

If you need help for something that doesn't exist too make you feel better that proves how much you suck at life.


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post Jun 25 2008, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Flatulent Goldfish @ Jun 25 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]1450554[/snapback]
Homophobes are out and out fucking idiots, I know a few gays, one being my best friend, who up until recently he was shagging girls, watching straight or lesbo porn and just generally being (fuck I hate this word, damn it to hell) a lad.
Then he turns to me and tells me he's gay, just like that. Is he wrong? Was he a better person when he was straight?

What's wrong Trigger Happy? Feeling a bit confused? Too scared to come out, are you? Nob.


haha if you look close enough in the facebook lads group you might see a gingergenius pop up in one of the photos. not that i'm tagged btw. But yeah I had the words 'lad' and 'banter'.
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post Jun 25 2008, 04:19 PM
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There's nothing wrong with homosexual people. Trigger, you should be disappointed with yourself.

Also, who the fuck is hitman540?

EDIT: NVM, I just realised who it is.


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post Jun 25 2008, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(hitman540 @ Jun 25 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]1450566[/snapback]
The best thing for me to do is just walk away.
I have an opinion and only Me and God know its true. and thats all that matters to me.

psycho in response to what u posted in the other thread: God help you.

The only reason I'm doing this is because you had to put the Bible quote in your sig. If you're going to be using the Bible to tell you want to do then don't stop there! Do everything it tells you to do (or not do as the case may be).

For example (in the same book of the Bible you're using):

Leviticus 19:19
Don't plant a field with two kinds of seeds, and don't wear any clothing made of two different kinds of material.

To that the farmers of the world say 'screw you'....and looks like I can't wear my work shirt, its 60% cotton and 40% polyester.

Leviticus 19:26
Don't eat meat with any blood still in it.

Hope you don't like your steaks rare.

Leviticus 19:27
You aren't allowed to cut your hair or shave your face.


Leviticus 19:28
You aren't allowed to get a tattoo.

Now lets go to the punishments that the LORD told Moses to hand out:


Leviticus 20:10-13
If a man has sex with another man's wife, his father's wife, his daughter-in-law, or another man..they must be put to death.

It goes on like that for the rest of Chapter 20.


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post Jun 25 2008, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(OptimumPx @ Jun 25 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]1450578[/snapback]
Leviticus 20:10-13
If a man has sex with another man's wife, his father's wife, his daughter-in-law, or another man..they must be put to death.


That's a bit fucking harsh.


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post Jun 25 2008, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(hitman540 @ Jun 25 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]1450566[/snapback]
The best thing for me to do is just walk away.
I have an opinion and only Me and God know its true. and thats all that matters to me.

psycho in response to what u posted in the other thread: God help you.

First of all, an opinion is nothing more than what you think or believe. Secondly, opinions are never wrong or right. They just are. People make them seem right or wrong by using arguments and facts that support the things they believe. So your response above about you and God being right is just bullshit.

For my third point, I ask you this: How can you trust the words that were written when they were written based on the specific interpretations of white royalty in power? How are we to know that what we read today is exactly what was spoken originally, or this is the way it was originally intended to be interpreted?

And lastly, if God is a kind and benevolent being that all of you bible-thumping idiots tell us we should believe he is, then don't you think that he just might be kind enough to say to anyone who is homosexual "It's ok. That's how you are. You are still my child. Welcome to eternity."?

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QUOTE(hitman540 @ Jun 25 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]1450566[/snapback]
The best thing for me to do is just walk away.
I have an opinion and only Me and God know its true. and thats all that matters to me.

psycho in response to what u posted in the other thread: God help you.

The only reason I'm doing this is because you had to put the Bible quote in your sig. If you're going to be using the Bible to tell you want to do then don't stop there! Do everything it tells you to do (or not do as the case may be).

For example (in the same book of the Bible you're using):

Leviticus 19:19
Don't plant a field with two kinds of seeds, and don't wear any clothing made of two different kinds of material.

To that the farmers of the world say 'screw you'....and looks like I can't wear my work shirt, its 60% cotton and 40% polyester.

Leviticus 19:26
Don't eat meat with any blood still in it.

Hope you don't like your steaks rare.

Leviticus 19:27
You aren't allowed to cut your hair or shave your face.


Leviticus 19:28
You aren't allowed to get a tattoo.

Now lets go to the punishments that the LORD told Moses to hand out:


Leviticus 20:10-13
If a man has sex with another man's wife, his father's wife, his daughter-in-law, or another man..they must be put to death.

It goes on like that for the rest of Chapter 20.

One of my personal favorites, Exodus 22:18:
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

I believe that Wicca is a recognized religion BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. Shouldn't they all be on some holy crusade to destroy all the "witches"?


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post Jun 25 2008, 07:21 PM
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post Jun 25 2008, 08:25 PM
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Hitman and his imaginary friend know the truth...
Nah..
Gay is ok..
Bible thumpers are whats wrong with the world..
Ever since religion was invented ,, its been used as a tool to persecute those who opposed its ideals..

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post Jun 26 2008, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE(psychÝ @ Jun 26 2008, 12:45 AM) [snapback]1450544[/snapback]
I don't see why you even brought genetics into this, there is no genetic evidence for any of it, none, it is a moot point.

If it's like any other kind of preference, genetics probably do play a part. The study is fairly relative for people to see it's not a choice.

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If there was a cure to give to gays, to turn them straight it should be forced upon them to take it.

Care to elaborate, on your opinion?

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The best thing for me to do is just walk away.
I have an opinion and only Me and God know its true. and thats all that matters to me.

There are actual facts disputing your opinion.

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psycho in response to what u posted in the other thread: God help you.

What makes you believe this god exists? Other people told you so? You're just accepting ridiculous stories to be true without any proof, because you're too weak to live yourself.


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post Jun 26 2008, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE(hitman540 @ Jun 25 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]1450566[/snapback]
The best thing for me to do is just walk away.
I have an opinion and only Me and God know its true. and thats all that matters to me.

psycho in response to what u posted in the other thread: God help you.


hahahahahahahaha

god's the next one after the tooth fairy and santa.
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post Jun 26 2008, 07:35 AM
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QUOTE(gingergenius @ Jun 26 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]1450753[/snapback]
QUOTE(hitman540 @ Jun 25 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]1450566[/snapback]
The best thing for me to do is just walk away.
I have an opinion and only Me and God know its true. and thats all that matters to me.

psycho in response to what u posted in the other thread: God help you.


hahahahahahahaha

god's the next one after the tooth fairy and santa.

A guy in robes told me god is real, with no proof what so ever. When I was little, and I went to bed and presents showed up and if I put a tooth under my pillow, it turned into money overnight. Right before my eyes. So, as you can see, there is much more reason to believe in the tooth fairy and Santa, than god.


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post Jun 26 2008, 09:52 AM
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First of all im not a homphobe, i have some friends who are gay, they can do whatever they want it doesn't bother me, but humans weren't designed to be gay, how can we carry on our race if there are gays. Im just saying if they could be turned into straights, then it should be done for the survival of our race. The gayness could spread like a disease, then we could all die. Bieng bisexual is better. But anyway maybe we should just let them be gay because our planet is over crowded and we need less humans. I was just thinking in the long term.


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post Jun 26 2008, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(TrIgGeR HaPpY @ Jun 26 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]1450777[/snapback]
The gayness could spread like a disease, then we could all die.

I seriously doubt the majority of the population will become gay anytime soon, and I doubt everyone will become gay, ever, unless they did find a "gay gene" (wich they probably won't) and someone decided to spread it through out certain societies.


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