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IMO Europe has far better music than America these days so Id love those radio stations. Everything else is pretty much taken care by ginger. I welcome an overseas GTA, I'd actually prefer it.

















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post Jun 10 2008, 04:26 AM
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Melbourne! Nice to see the Australian-American war from the other side smile.gif
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+ diverse city (river + cbd + inner suburbs + port + airport + s/e suburbs)
+ similar radio to US
+ large range of vehicles
+/- drive on the left side of the road (depending where you're from)

A biased but cool idea!

Oh, and on a side note, our cops only have revolvers (six bullets) so they would be easy to take down!

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QUOTE(grimface1987 @ Jun 10 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]1446700[/snapback]
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(I2un N Gun @ Jun 4 2008, 03:06 AM) [snapback]1444680[/snapback]
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This topic proves the ignorance of the average american. The guys that created GTA aren't american to begin with, they're british. The reason it works well in america is because you guys are so over the top. It's easy for the creators to take full advantage of this and use your stereotypes to tell a story while subtly being able to take the piss at the same time. All the other crap you said is irrelevant.


Well phantom we have ignorance? Did you DID YOU NOT READ HIS FUCKING POST? I think your the ignorant one. He is using His own opinion and you try to criticize him for his own opinion. How the fuck could we understand german radio stations. not every one understands german, France, Spanish. Just because one person doesn't like your opinion doesn't mean you have to be all over them. People use their opinion and here everone try's to change the opinion.

I agree with the Cool. Because it wouldn't feel normal for me to be outside of america, I wouldn't say i'd hate it im saying it would be complicating to under stand thier accent and their cultural beleifs. It would be somthing new and could be excitting when there is still detroit, and other places that america still has to give.


well as long as you're happy....

If you stood back and looked at your post you'd see you're ignorant. At least The Cool admitted it. Just look at the bit i bolded. Americans seem to have this impression that they're unique as a country; that they're somehow different to the rest of the human race, and that they're more important. GTA is a game about crime ffs. It has nothing to do with cultural beliefs. Plus, why are another country's cultural beliefs hard to understand? You never know, you may actually learn something about somewhere else...

As for accents, well that's your problem. If you listen hard enough, anyone speaking English is comprehensible. And anyway you can always turn the subtitles on...
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QUOTE(I2un N Gun @ Jun 4 2008, 03:06 AM) [snapback]1444680[/snapback]
it would be complicating to under stand thier accent

Niko, Kent Paul, Ma Cippriani, Kenji, Catalina, Miguel, Elizebeta, Maria, Roman, JD O'Toole, Salvatore Leone, Vinnie, Sonny Forelli, Ceaser Villapando, Reni, Ricardo Diaz, Sgt. Martinez, Diego Mendez, Armando Mendez, Gonzalas, Colonel Juan Garcia Cortez, T Bone Mendez, Asuka, Kenji, King Courtney, El Burro, Umberto Robina, Auntie Paulet, The four Love Fist guys, Little Jacob, Real Badman, Mallorie, Vlad, Dimitri, Faustin.

Some of the most memorible GTA main characters of all time and they all had foreign accents (that's most of the main characters in the series). Was it hard to understand them? If so, the game must have been hard for you...


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post Jun 10 2008, 11:12 AM
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mmmmm crime in Australia??? I live in tassie and one of the worlds biggest 1 man massacres happened here! The port Arthur massacre! I think that he ended up killing 37 people with a shot gun and nearly killing 12 others.... Correct me if i'm wrong:) but i would call that crime. Oh and i live in a little town (3000 people) and there are daily drug busts and and drug deals going on. There was a gang war last month and 4 of my mates ended up in hospital. And guess what the cops did????? SAT THERE AND WATCHED! Now i think thats corrupt!
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post Jun 10 2008, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(NiggaMan @ Jun 2 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]1444116[/snapback]
I don't really agree or disagree with any of the points, although When I play The Getaway I don't really like any of the cars in the game, Most are small and shitty imo, Might be a good car in real life, but I don't like the really small ugly cars. Sorry, Just my opinion. I like to see a wide variety of vehicles, Muscel cars, Exotics, Sports, Suvs, Compact, Luxary, Full size cars, etc

That's because the getaway is shit.


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post Jun 23 2008, 12:44 PM
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Well. I donīt agree. A opinion from Spain:

1. We drive by right, just like in GTA.

2.I donīt like a lot the OST of this GTA, but It could be worst. The Vladivostokīs music is from Europe. The San Juanīs is from South America. But I wonder: Why in this station they donīt speak spanish?

3.We have seen a lot of movies from USA, so we are habituated. A lot. A lot. A lot. And non automatic cars are a pain.

4.See three.

5.See three.

6.For me itīs the same an accent and another cause I have not enough level of spoken english to notice them. They donīt translate voices in GTAīs. And it really sucks. The subtitles are useful, but they donīt subtitle the people in street (they could use a little text floating over the speakers or something, I donīt know.) The Tv or the people speaking in street, the comments not subtitled etc, they are all useless for not english speakers like me. And the radios too. Only the music is useful, but I canīt use my own Mp3, so I always turn it off.

7.See three. We know you much more than you know us. For real. And we laugh of you more than you of yourself, ha ha. That was a joke.

8.Yeah. See six.

The cool thing about GTA for non usa people is:

I donīt know the cities in USA. I know Madrid, Barcelona and the others spanish cities. I have not been in all of them, but I know if they are big, small, if they have this or this building, if they are politically leftist or rightist, if they have beach etc. I know a lot of european cities, but, for example, San Francisco and Los Angeles were the same for me. I didnīt know the differences. (Las Vegas is a particular city, I knew about the casinos etc... But I didnīt know that it was in a desert etc). Today I can see a photo of a city and say: Ey, it can be L.A or S.F. Itīs a good educative tool. I want a GTA in a lot of cities in USA for learn about them. I wish a GTA in my small city v_V

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The jokes are based on stereotypes that we recognise worldwide, about any country.
I donīt think so. There is not black* guys in large criminal bands here. There is, in fact, a little number of black people. We have not mafias, we have not bands of hispanos with that kind of jumping cars, we have not poor people sleeping in streets, etc etc etc. We have not this kind of right winded people, there are not creationtist etc etc



*I am not sure about the non racist way of speaking about black people. I think black is right

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We listen to american songs and I'm sure the rest of the world does too.


Yeah. But we listen more european music than you. And we miss it. The "problem" (itīs not a problem actually) is that you sell things to us, so we learn a lot about you, USA people.

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have never heard a joke that i have not understood from overseas so your saying you wont get a joke from over here


Spanish Joke

Ey Patxi. Did you know there are another cultures?
And what they raise?
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post Jun 23 2008, 05:07 PM
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who says the next GTA will be limited to only 1 continent. perhaps they could keep liberty city but expand on Francis intl and you could catch a plane to the main country/state of each continent. eg london, japan, sydney,

dont flame just an idea.

oh yeah im from GB and i think it wouldnt be as good. our police force has even got guns and they're to tied down in paper-work to arrest anyone for proper crimes, so they enforce traffic laws. yeah really exciting cop chases in their diesel astra's. it'd be cool if they had the whole hot fuzz element. And the criminals... well youths in hooded tops or tracksuits terrorising a shopping centre by dropping litter and swearing. As a nation we are far more civilized than USA so take it as a compliment not to be featured in GTA.
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post Jun 23 2008, 09:41 PM
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Best GTA would be whole world. But we all know that that's never gonna happen.
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post Jun 23 2008, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(neko_ceko @ Jun 23 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]1450063[/snapback]
Best GTA would be whole world. But we all know that that's never gonna happen.

well not at the moment anyway. give R* 10-15 years.
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QUOTE(neko_ceko @ Jun 23 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]1450063[/snapback]
Best GTA would be whole world. But we all know that that's never gonna happen.


A bit of Scifi now: Imagine a Google Earth making lots and lots of photos of the whole world in different angles. The angles can make a 3D map of them. I mean: It can be automatized. Maybe not still, but wait 10 years... and imagination smile.gif
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QUOTE(The Cool @ May 31 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]1443627[/snapback]
The following is my own personal opinion. No, I have never been outside the United States of America. The only thing I know of other countries is from T.V. and Movies. So please don't call me a stupid American. I hope you will come in and educate me, because right now I would be pissed if the next game was overseas. So lets respect everybody's opinions, and have an intelligent conversation.

(My 8 reasons it would suck)

1. Driving on the other side of the road.
2. The Radio stations.
3. The types of vehicles.
4. The range of characters. (The U.S. has Whites, Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Italians, Indians, Irish, British, Russian, etc....)
5. The Criminal Lifestyles (I don't see much on Adult criminal life overseas)
6. I don't see how they would mix the accents well, and make it seem legit.
7. GTA has always made fun of Americas over-hyped media, and cultural lifestyles. (We don't get much of your media over here, so it would be hard to relate to the jokes. (I do like Shaun of the Dead though)
8. I just think it would limit the games overall potential.

p.s. none of this is personal, and my opinion is an uneducated one.


1. Very few countries have left traffic, Great Britain is alone in Europe.
2. That could be a big problem.
3. Most wellknown cars are german, italian, japanese or swedish...
4. America accepts very few immigrants, most countries have all ethnicities.
5. Crime is just as bad in asia and europe as it is in america.
6. I don't really get that one... But there are ofcourse accents in other languages than english, though i get it if you can't hear it.
7. You say your uneducated, maybe it would be a great opportunity for you to get to know other cultures?
8. That's not really a point...


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post Sep 15 2008, 05:04 PM
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Americans are generally too boring to accept anything set outside of New York or LA, so I can see that a foreign setting would turn their 'safe' little world upside down.
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melbourne is a great idea


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QUOTE(neko_ceko @ Jun 23 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]1450063[/snapback]
Best GTA would be whole world. But we all know that that's never gonna happen.


A bit of Scifi now: Imagine a Google Earth making lots and lots of photos of the whole world in different angles. The angles can make a 3D map of them. I mean: It can be automatized. Maybe not still, but wait 10 years... and imagination smile.gif


Or how about less than 5: Photosyth Prototype

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Im from Canada and personally i would love a GTA: London in 3d. I like european cars more any and they still have all japanese and have skylines which usa does not have. British english is easy to understand and i liked the getaway so GTA: London would be wicked.

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QUOTE(thespacecowboy @ Aug 12 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]1459005[/snapback]
QUOTE(The Cool @ May 31 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]1443627[/snapback]
The following is my own personal opinion. No, I have never been outside the United States of America. The only thing I know of other countries is from T.V. and Movies. So please don't call me a stupid American. I hope you will come in and educate me, because right now I would be pissed if the next game was overseas. So lets respect everybody's opinions, and have an intelligent conversation.

(My 8 reasons it would suck)

1. Driving on the other side of the road.
2. The Radio stations.
3. The types of vehicles.
4. The range of characters. (The U.S. has Whites, Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Italians, Indians, Irish, British, Russian, etc....)
5. The Criminal Lifestyles (I don't see much on Adult criminal life overseas)
6. I don't see how they would mix the accents well, and make it seem legit.
7. GTA has always made fun of Americas over-hyped media, and cultural lifestyles. (We don't get much of your media over here, so it would be hard to relate to the jokes. (I do like Shaun of the Dead though)
8. I just think it would limit the games overall potential.

p.s. none of this is personal, and my opinion is an uneducated one.


1. Very few countries have left traffic, Great Britain is alone in Europe.
2. That could be a big problem.
3. Most wellknown cars are german, italian, japanese or swedish...
4. America accepts very few immigrants, most countries have all ethnicities.
5. Crime is just as bad in asia and europe as it is in america.
6. I don't really get that one... But there are ofcourse accents in other languages than english, though i get it if you can't hear it.
7. You say your uneducated, maybe it would be a great opportunity for you to get to know other cultures?
8. That's not really a point...


In responce to you, space...
1. Yep, thats very true.
2. I don't know. I think they could make it unique....
3. Yes, but cars in europe are smaller in general, less variety....
4. Your completely wrong about this. America is one of the most diverse nations in the world.

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The U.S. has a very diverse population—thirty-one ancestry groups have more than a million members.[118]White Americans are the largest racial group, with German Americans, Irish Americans, and English Americans constituting three of the country's four largest ancestry groups.[118] African Americans are the nation's second largest racial minority group, after Hispanics/Latinos, and third largest ancestry group.[119][118] Asian Americans are the country's second largest racial minority; the two largest Asian American ancestry groups are Chinese and Filipino.[118] In 2007, the U.S. population included an estimated 4.5 million people with some American Indian or Alaskan native ancestry (2.9 million exclusively of such ancestry) and over 1 million with some native Hawaiian or Pacific island ancestry (0.5 million exclusively).[119][120]

Minorities (as defined by the Census Bureau, all those beside non-Hispanic, non-multiracial whites) constitute 34% of the population; they are projected to be the majority by 2042.[123] However, White Americans overall (non-Hispanic Whites together with White Hispanics) are projected to remain the racial majority at 73.1% (or 303 million out of 420 million) in 2050.[124][125]


5. Maybe, but its not glorified the way american crime is.. the Mafia, ect

6. He's saying that if you did it in a country like, say, China, most of the characters would speak chinese if you wanted to make it authentic... and it would be a pain to read all the subtitles.

7. No, he isn't saying he's uneducated. He's saying that british or chinese culture isn't as easy to make fun of. I mean, sure we could make fun of english women with bad teeth and funny voices, but i don't think that would fit into GTA. On the other hand, American culture is very materialistic and very egotistical.. which makes it very easy to pick fun at.

Also, if you were to do it in a country in south america or the orient, you'd have to tease the minority in america, and accusations of racism would fly and it would be a huge PR problem for Take Two. One the other hand, who's going to complain if you make fun of white fat people who over consume everything.


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3. Yes, but cars in europe are smaller in general, less variety....

No, just less muscle cars and gazz guzzling SUVs. I think we can get through the game without them.

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5. Maybe, but its not glorified the way american crime is.. the Mafia, ect
There is such a large mafia in america becuase there are so many laws against gambling and prostitution. Some might say that it would be no fun to take it down to Aus, were those are legal...

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7. No, he isn't saying he's uneducated. He's saying that british or chinese culture isn't as easy to make fun of. I mean, sure we could make fun of english women with bad teeth and funny voices, but i don't think that would fit into GTA. On the other hand, American culture is very materialistic and very egotistical.. which makes it very easy to pick fun at.

There is more to british jokes than just bad teeth and top hats, you know.


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I think GTA would work in any country. Especially a place where there is run down "poor" areas and big powerful gangs. That is the main attribute of a GTA game right there...


All they have to do is make sure the characters all speak English, but in an accent for a bit of authenticity.

Off the top of my head i can think of many European countries which GTA would be cool in. Poland, Russia, England, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Romania would all be awesome places. And then you have Japan, China, Mexico, Cuba, all Gang hotspots, perfect for a GTA game.

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