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post May 25 2008, 08:39 AM
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like the 100year dought in amermica the darfur then the the war on terror this is very possible planet x that enter of solar system that on a collison couse with one of our planets look for your self if you ain't heard about planet x

During a period of continuing unrest, the leader of a Middle Eastern country will be able to obtain a nuclear weapon. He will go to the greatest lengths over the smallest things and will not hesitate to use the weapon because of his obsessions with deadly warfare. The people he is warring against retaliate with a nuclear weapon. The country has a coast on the Mediterranean.


One of the bombs will land in the Mediterranean instead of the land, poisoning all the fish. The passages of trade in the region will be disrupted so that the people on the other coast will be desperate for food and will eat the fish anyway. It will happen near the east coast of the Mediterranean in a region of dark-colored cliffs.

(Century III, Quatrain 83)

The nuclear weapon being dropped by one of the Middle Eastern countries will spark off yet another war on top of that war. European nations will try to interfere to diminish the threat to oil supplies. When the European countries try to interfere, the crazed leader will use the rest of his arsenal on Europe, most striking the Italian Peninsula.

The European Mediterranean coast, particularly that of Italy and France, will be almost uninhabitable, and Italy will get the brunt. This leader is not the Antichrist but helps to set the stage for the Antichrist to rise to power with little or no opposition.

Volcanoes, earthquakes, floods, droughts
(Century IV, Quatrain 67)

A very bright, previously unknown comet will appear and coincide with the time of great geological troubles, with earthquakes and volcanoes erupting and disrupting weather systems. This will cause widespread famines, droughts, and social upheavals in unexpected places. Nations that are considered prosperous and powerful, particularly western nations, will be weakened. They will be torn with civil strife and rioting as people migrate to areas that have water and can support crop-growing. The social upheaval and weakening of political structures will help the Antichrist come to power.

The United States in particular will be subject to serious natural disasters, particularly earthquakes and flooding, and flatten the nation from end to end, causing enormous conflict, despair, and misery. The US will be bankrupted attempting to deal with its disasters. Three other great nations will send aid to help the citizens survive.

(Century VIII, Quatrain 29)

Earth changes will take place that will help the Antichrist's drive for world conquest. In central Europe, southern Europe, and in the Middle East, around the eastern end of the Mediterranean, there will be severe floods. As a result of the disruption to local governments by the natural disasters, the Antichrist will move his troops in under the guise of helping the people restore civil order, but really use this as a device to take over countries, and to use the populations like slaves.

Serious economic problems will persist along with great social unrest, contributing to the ease with which the Antichrist can seize power. The frightened and hopeful populace will be vulnerable to his rhetoric. The Antichrist will use the disasters as opportunities to overthrow governments and sneak spies into a country. Martial law will be declared in many areas to stop rioting and looting. The Middle East, the source of his power, will not be as devastated as the rest of the world. He offers assistance to other countries trying to recover but he will eventually stab them in the back.

American Electoral College voting stalemate
(Century VII, Quatrain 41)


The presidents of the United States, a supposedly free country, have been abusing their power to an increasingly greater extent. During a time of social unrest even more so than the period of Vietnam and Watergate, the Electoral College will be evenly split over the election of the new president. The process will stalemate, with many people clamoring for whichever candidate they voted for, causing enormous tension in the country. Internationally it will be a sensitive situation.

Because of the split, and the extremely volatile and explosive social unrest, putting either candidate in office instead of the other could start a civil war or a revolution. After a long time of impassioned speeches invoking patriotism and the founding fathers, a compromise solution of holding another election will be taken, and a candidate will be installed without disaster.

Antichrist's rise to power in Middle East

(Century II, Quatrains 23 and 81)

The Antichrist will take over Iran by using a human decoy to trick the Iranian Ayatollah in power. This will involve the "yes men" and puppets of the Ayatollah's court. The Antichrist will first drive away internal supporters of the Ayatollah by starting a civil war. Then he will put forth a man as a leader, a man for Iranians loyal to the Ayatollah to concentrate their hate on. The man will be assassinated while Iran is being taken over, and his opponents will think they have foiled the overthrow of power by assassinating him. But they will find out later he was merely a decoy and that they played into the plans of the Antichrist.

The Antichrist will initially obtain power in his own sphere, Asia, and the Middle East. As he grows out of this arena, and into Europe, the next step will be into the Mediterranean, his area of strength. Because of his Middle Eastern heritage he will have already united North Africans, who are sympathetic to his cultural background, with his Asian and Middle Eastern conglomerate.

Fiasco from communication breakdown between two superpowers

(Century II, Quatrains 35 and 48)

Through a mistake, a breakdown in communications between two powerful countries will occur. The situation is a lot more complex than will appear on the surface. The leader involved will feel great regret about what happened and will want to continue his career and help correct the situation, to help make up for the adverse affects.

But he will be hung, symbolically, by others wishing to take his position in the organization. He will be hung as far as politics and his career are concerned. It will almost be like committing suicide because in the end he will be a broken man. The entire event will be viewed as a fiasco from both sides. It will have very harmful and even cataclysmic consequences.

Third world country leader creates strife
(Century III, Quatrain 60)

A "young dark man" will arise as a leader in a Third World country; his main goal is to unite the other Third World countries to do battle with the superpowers. The area of conflict will be in Eastern Europe and the Middle East, particularly around the Adriatic and the Caspian seas and Israel. No definite winner will emerge but the strife will help set the stage for the Antichrist. Many prophecies in the Bible refer to events in this region.

Antichrist profits from radar research in Europe
(Century I, Quatrain 6)

Research on a more sophisticated type of radar and sensing devices will give greater information to the operator, i.e. an airplane pilot. But the first experiments with the technology will fail in a disastrous accident, when the vibrations emitted by the device cause the chassis of the plane to become weakened and dangerous. The scientists involved with the research will have to temporarily abandon the research because of diplomatic breakdowns, the threat of war, etc.

This will take place before the Antichrist comes to full power. It will happen in Europe at the time the Antichrist is strengthening his base of power in the Middle East. The devices are currently under development but have not been tested yet. But this is another historical event that will permit the Antichrist to take over Europe.

War game simulation by Britain in Europe leads to disaster
(Century II, Quatrain 2)

In a war-game maneuver involving Great Britain and European troops a malfunctioning computer will cause the "real-world" situation to play out instead of the simulation. As a result of the error actual defenses will be activated and real bombs will be dropped on the areas of the game and cause a tragic international incident.

i'm warnin yall it is happening 2012 is it the end did youknow that the galatic calander does read past 2012??

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post May 25 2008, 01:19 PM
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Personally i dont give a shit about this stuff anymore, its bin predicted so many times you learn to ignore it. As for religion maybe thats the AntiChrist? Its seems to me that it was inventent to brainwash and controle every person it gets its mits on. (Sound like the Devil?). Mankind wont be destroyed by tornadoes and earthquakes. It will be destroyed soley by religion. Dont believe it? If Nostradamus's prediction does come true it will all have been started by Muslims bombing the Jews.

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post May 25 2008, 03:00 PM
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Everyone is supposed to like the anti-christ before they like destroy the world and shit, so I really doubt it is religion as no one actually likes it at all, people just know no better,


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post May 25 2008, 04:00 PM
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Even if its true theres nothing we can do about it so fuck it.


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post May 25 2008, 08:09 PM
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true that well actually obama is about to be the new president of the usa i belive to a degree that maybe he is the antichrist he fits the dispection and HE ALL ABOUT CHANGE
once again like you said everyone stuck up there own ass to notice that we fallin to a demises so enjoy your days to the fullest


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post May 25 2008, 09:59 PM
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^^ Dont say that in public, youll get put down for 'inciting racial hatred'. Dont you just love the PC brigade? Psycho, people do like religion, thats why billions of peeps follow it.


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post May 26 2008, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(BRKS @ May 25 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]1441397[/snapback]
Psycho, people do like religion, thats why billions of peeps follow it.

No, they are morons who know no different, far different. If they realised they were wasting their life and could be doing better things like sleeping and nothing they would.


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I hate it when people who don't know what they are talking about bring up Nostradamus.

For example you say:
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(Century III, Quatrain 83)

The nuclear weapon being dropped by one of the Middle Eastern countries will spark off yet another war on top of that war. European nations will try to interfere to diminish the threat to oil supplies. When the European countries try to interfere, the crazed leader will use the rest of his arsenal on Europe, most striking the Italian Peninsula.

The European Mediterranean coast, particularly that of Italy and France, will be almost uninhabitable, and Italy will get the brunt. This leader is not the Antichrist but helps to set the stage for the Antichrist to rise to power with little or no opposition.
What does Century III, Quatrain 83 really say?
The long hairs of Celtic Gaul
Accompanied by foreign nations,
They will make captive the people of Aquitaine,
For succumbing to their designs.


That is a pretty big stretch....and no where near close. Hell, Aquitaine is on France's Atlantic coast bordering Spain and no where near Italy.

Lets look at another random one.
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(Century II, Quatrains 23 and 81)

The Antichrist will take over Iran by using a human decoy to trick the Iranian Ayatollah in power. This will involve the "yes men" and puppets of the Ayatollah's court. The Antichrist will first drive away internal supporters of the Ayatollah by starting a civil war. Then he will put forth a man as a leader, a man for Iranians loyal to the Ayatollah to concentrate their hate on. The man will be assassinated while Iran is being taken over, and his opponents will think they have foiled the overthrow of power by assassinating him. But they will find out later he was merely a decoy and that they played into the plans of the Antichrist.

The Antichrist will initially obtain power in his own sphere, Asia, and the Middle East. As he grows out of this arena, and into Europe, the next step will be into the Mediterranean, his area of strength. Because of his Middle Eastern heritage he will have already united North Africans, who are sympathetic to his cultural background, with his Asian and Middle Eastern conglomerate.

Let's look at what Nostradamus really said.
Century II, Quatrain 23
Palace birds, chased out by a bird,
Very soon after the prince has arrived:
Although the enemy is repelled beyond the river,
Outside seized the trick upheld by the bird.


Century II, Quatrain 81
Through fire from the sky the city almost burned:
The Urn threatens Deucalion again:
Sardinia vexed by the Punic foist,
After Libra will leave her Phaethon.


Stretched like a rubber band to fit that one. Where do you get the anti-christ? Iran? Yes-men? What's interesting is most people think the 2nd on is about a comet hitting the Earth or something.

Moving on from Nostradamus and on to the so-called 'galactic calendar' that doesn't read past 2012.

I have two words for that one, "bull" and "shit."

Let's start with the fact that Maya calendar is not a galactic calendar. It is based off of the movements the Moon and Venus but thats about it.

And as for the idea that it shows the world will end in 2012 is at best a misconception and at worse lunacy.

First of all lets remind everyone that the people who used this calendar haven't been around since 1050 ad at the latest, so I wouldn't take much stock in their interpretation of the world (much less in it's ending).

But heres the best part...their calender never says the world ends in 2012. Did you know that in some Mayan ruins there are references to dates past 2012?

Anyway, 2012 is only then ending of the 12th B'ak'tun cycle. Something that has ended and started many times. Heck the current B'ak'tun cycle started in 1618...long after the Mayans' civilization had long ceased to exist.


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post May 26 2008, 05:51 AM
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I love how OPX always takes radical thoughts and proves they are moderate at best.


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post May 26 2008, 04:40 PM
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Nostradamous = Clever fucker that wrote some shit that can be interpreted into anything
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post May 26 2008, 06:13 PM
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what about edgar cayce, he predicted some shit like that too, and some of it came true.


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Like mek said, those prophets or however you wanna call them, write some blurred up shit that you can interpretate however you want. You can fit that nostradamus writing on millions of events, people who really wanna see it happening might stretch it like rubber to fit the situation, like GTA~BOSS did...

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QUOTE(Mekstizzle @ May 26 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]1441672[/snapback]
Nostradamous = Clever fucker that wrote some shit that can be interpreted into anything

Thats the best comment thus far. For all we know, Nostra-dumb-shit may have spoken about Manchester United winning the Champions League this season.


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hey all am sayin if you read the book there are some good points and for one nostardamus is dead alot of scientist and history people who came acrross one of his lost book was able pin on some current events all am sayin is it ain't just prophet it alot of astrologist workin on this all i was doin is just lettin yall know some interrestin thing that the astroist have came across. the main thing am talkin about if you watch the discorvey channel there is a unkown astroid/planet called X for now on a galatic collison course with our nine planets obits if this does happen the shock of the impact will set off alots of faults causein huge natrual disaster all the plates would shift causein volcanic eruption and a thick cloud of carbon or what ever it called blocking sunlight thus heatin the avg. earth temp. even if it didn't hit earth and maybe mars it would still have a big affect on us don't mock me for just tryin to get a little somethiung to talk about. damn fucking pricks

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QUOTE(Mekstizzle @ May 26 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]1441672[/snapback]
Nostradamous = Clever fucker that wrote some shit that can be interpreted into anything

Thats the best comment thus far. For all we know, Nostra-dumb-shit may have spoken about Manchester United winning the Champions League this season.

hey atleast he was smart enough to know we would have planes and lights and all this furture shit that even most are grandparents didn;t know about give him some fuckin cedit atleast he be remember for ever onlike YOU sleep.gif

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QUOTE(GTA~BOSS @ May 26 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]1441910[/snapback]
hey all am sayin if you read the book there are some good points and for one nostardamus is dead alot of scientist and history people who came acrross one of his lost book was able pin on some current events all am sayin is it ain't just prophet it alot of astrologist workin on this all i was doin is just lettin yall know some interrestin thing that the astroist have came across. the main thing am talkin about if you watch the discorvey channel there is a unkown astroid/planet called X for now on a galatic collison course with our nine planets obits if this does happen the shock of the impact will set off alots of faults causein huge natrual disaster all the plates would shift causein volcanic eruption and a thick cloud of carbon or what ever it called blocking sunlight thus heatin the avg. earth temp. even if it didn't hit earth and maybe mars it would still have a big affect on us don't mock me for just tryin to get a little somethiung to talk about. damn fucking pricks

QUOTE(Caliph @ May 26 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]1441904[/snapback]
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Nostradamous = Clever fucker that wrote some shit that can be interpreted into anything

Thats the best comment thus far. For all we know, Nostra-dumb-shit may have spoken about Manchester United winning the Champions League this season.

hey atleast he was smart enough to know we would have planes and lights and all this furture shit that even most are grandparents didn;t know about give him some fuckin cedit atleast he be remember for ever onlike YOU sleep.gif

First of all the so-called 'Lost Book of Nostradamus' is alleged to be by him and passed down from his son to a Pope or some such thing, but there is "absolutely no contemporary evidence that Nostradamus himself was either a painter or the author of the work, whose contents in fact date from several centuries before his time -- nor, indeed, that he had ever heard of it, given that it did not finally appear in print until after his death."

Also Nostradamus never predicted electric lighting, or planes, or anything of that sort. People have interpreted it to mean such things but that accounts for exactly nill.

As for Planet X, I can't find a single reliable source for it being true. Some people claim it's from the "Great, King of Terror from the sky" line but that one claims the year 1999 and seven months so it's a bit out of date. Doesn't keep people from trying but there you go.

People also claim Planet X is Nibiru, a planet from Sumerian & Babylonian astrology coming to destroy us! However Nibiru is actually Jupiter. The only person to really claim otherwise is Zecharia Sitchin...but he thinks that aliens visited ancient civilizations so he's clearly off his rocker.


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I don't deny the possibility of aliens being around the time of ancient civilizations but most of the shit people take from Nostradamus is false and stretched beyond recognition. And I don't think a planet will cause our planet to lose its equilibrium, etc...


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QUOTE(OptimumPx @ May 27 2008, 01:15 AM) [snapback]1441940[/snapback]
QUOTE(GTA~BOSS @ May 26 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]1441910[/snapback]
hey all am sayin if you read the book there are some good points and for one nostardamus is dead alot of scientist and history people who came acrross one of his lost book was able pin on some current events all am sayin is it ain't just prophet it alot of astrologist workin on this all i was doin is just lettin yall know some interrestin thing that the astroist have came across. the main thing am talkin about if you watch the discorvey channel there is a unkown astroid/planet called X for now on a galatic collison course with our nine planets obits if this does happen the shock of the impact will set off alots of faults causein huge natrual disaster all the plates would shift causein volcanic eruption and a thick cloud of carbon or what ever it called blocking sunlight thus heatin the avg. earth temp. even if it didn't hit earth and maybe mars it would still have a big affect on us don't mock me for just tryin to get a little somethiung to talk about. damn fucking pricks

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Nostradamous = Clever fucker that wrote some shit that can be interpreted into anything

Thats the best comment thus far. For all we know, Nostra-dumb-shit may have spoken about Manchester United winning the Champions League this season.

hey atleast he was smart enough to know we would have planes and lights and all this furture shit that even most are grandparents didn;t know about give him some fuckin cedit atleast he be remember for ever onlike YOU sleep.gif

First of all the so-called 'Lost Book of Nostradamus' is alleged to be by him and passed down from his son to a Pope or some such thing, but there is "absolutely no contemporary evidence that Nostradamus himself was either a painter or the author of the work, whose contents in fact date from several centuries before his time -- nor, indeed, that he had ever heard of it, given that it did not finally appear in print until after his death."

Also Nostradamus never predicted electric lighting, or planes, or anything of that sort. People have interpreted it to mean such things but that accounts for exactly nill.

As for Planet X, I can't find a single reliable source for it being true. Some people claim it's from the "Great, King of Terror from the sky" line but that one claims the year 1999 and seven months so it's a bit out of date. Doesn't keep people from trying but there you go.

People also claim Planet X is Nibiru, a planet from Sumerian & Babylonian astrology coming to destroy us! However Nibiru is actually Jupiter. The only person to really claim otherwise is Zecharia Sitchin...but he thinks that aliens visited ancient civilizations so he's clearly off his rocker.

well you clearly keep up with things that was up i seen it on the discorvey back in nov. i smoke weed so my brain cells ain't really good at remember things but it is clear you done your research opx it good to know there are smart people out there that just don't comment BS bnut explain themselves i let you have this one for you have evidently seen what i seen and remember it alot better. congratsw and you reassure me alittle but hey i still think it very possible for thing to happen i mean korea and iran are both tryin to start the nucleaR PLANTS but we till them not to you know they just move under ground therefore ww3 is not far off and honestly i don't trust obama still but hey maybe there is still hope for us out there
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QUOTE(GTA~BOSS @ May 27 2008, 06:08 AM) [snapback]1441910[/snapback]
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Nostradamous = Clever fucker that wrote some shit that can be interpreted into anything

Thats the best comment thus far. For all we know, Nostra-dumb-shit may have spoken about Manchester United winning the Champions League this season.

hey atleast he was smart enough to know we would have planes and lights and all this furture shit that even most are grandparents didn;t know about give him some fuckin cedit atleast he be remember for ever onlike YOU sleep.gif

Nostradamus is highly overrated and deeply admired by those who know little about him. Its because they think, or is it wish to believe, that someone out there actually knew what the future holds for this Earth. Its easy for me to make assumptions about how life would turn up, and chances are they will turn up the very same way I predicted them to. The beauty of literature is how you can use words to trick the mind and soul, its a form of art. Language is art, and if you choose the right words to describe the right moments then your book can be open to any interpretations. Think of it as GTAIV being a non-linear, sandbox video game. The same could be said about Nostradamus and his work. He was an artist in expressing himself with words written on paper, that are so brief, so confusing, so metaphoric that they could be explained on almost anything. Lets not forget that his books were not in English, they had to be translated, hence they lost roughly 70% of their meaning through that transition. And then lets not forget that his schemes were very similar to astrology. Ever saw your horoscope and thought, "woah, thats exactly how I feel like"? Thats because these things are meant to make people look good, its just an artist's way of showing people that he can predict the future by stating the blatantly obvious.

A prince will appear from a crowd of princes. The rise of an eagle will claim its power, the vengeance of a killer would be put to an end.

Okay lets interpret what I just made up.
The prince could be anyone, be it the president of the United States, the prime minister of the United Kingdom, or even a real monarch, etc. The rise of an eagle could be America rising as a superpower nation since the eagle is a symbol of the United States. The vengeance of a killer could be used to describe Hitler who took revenge after Germany lost to Europe in World War One.

And if you really think someone predicting the ability to fly is impossible then youre losing it. The ability to fly was always in people's heads and people knew they'd one day achieve it. It was never impossible, never. The only impossibles are things which go against the laws of nature and the laws of this universe, and these things were always known to be impossible ever since human beings grasped the knowledge of physics and mechanics. Also, electricity, huh? Did you know the Ancient Sumerians of present-day Iraq had techniques to generate electricity? Just because Europe was living in its dark ages didnt mean these things were impossible. So any blatantly obvious predictions are not really worth crediting, especially since these predictions are ever-so-changing because he never wrote those words. He just made metaphors and people are subjected to interpreting them in any way they want. And you want to know the irony? People never interpret something only until it happens. So when cars came out, people then thought "hey, Nostradamus predicted cars". Well, then why the hell didnt they match that secret earlier? Ill tell you why, its because theyre fooling themselves and Nostradamus is now having a good laugh at them.


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post May 27 2008, 09:24 PM
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Nostro is a fucking joke. Actually read his stuff you'd know this.

7% of all the shit he put down has come true. Now you may say, "OMGZ 7 Percent"...no.

He was vague as fuck and he said, "Two towers will fall." Okay. He got lucky. Say we never got attacked and two towers never fell. People would've bent the truth around it to where a building may be bombed in Japan, and then in Britian. We do that because we want to believe.

Also, he gives no timelines for events. This begs the question that SOMETIME in history, two buildings were going to fall somewhere. ONce again, a refer to his vaguity. People want to believe this guy could predict the future but the fact is that the "7%" that was recorded, is only because they bent the truth so that those things he said could relate the the tragedies of today.

Why people hang onto his words are beyond me.

And someone said Barack Obama is the antichrist because he is "all about change." You sir, and anyone who believes that is an idiot. He wanting change has anything to do with being the antichrist, then Martin Luther King and Thomas Jefferson sure as hell are the devil.

and well fucking said Caliph. Most coherent post i've seen in a while

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my buddy brought this up a while ago, he really believes this shit, so he bet me $50 that the world will be in chaos by 2010, man i hope the world is stilll intact in 2 years
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