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deejay
post Mar 5 2008, 05:52 AM
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im not personally big on politics or even plan to vote in the next election, but i think it is very dangerous for a black man to become President. although American has come a long way since slavery, i think this is still a very racist country and i think Obama's life could be threaten. I do like Obama but big speeches to me does not equal change, personally the President is nothing but a face behind the people whith the real power, and i dont think those people are ready for a black President though the world would look at America more positively in my light.


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post Mar 5 2008, 01:02 PM
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Candidates will say anything to get them elected.

Though I kind of do agree that if Obama is elected president, he may need more protection than normal. Unfortunately racism does still exist in this country, and he is well aware of that. Although, he does tackle the issues with half way decent solutions to them IMO.

I'll admit, I haven't been keeping up with the candidates and their views on issues I think are the most important, i.e, healthcare, homeland security, etc. I have to do a little more research before I figure out which party I'll vote for.

McCain is the Republican Nominee...found that out this morning. Now it's a cut throat race between Clinton and Obama.



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post Mar 5 2008, 01:14 PM
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If Racism was as rampant as you say it is, he wouldn't have got as far as he is right now. Although he is up against.......a woman
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post Mar 5 2008, 06:37 PM
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im not personally big on politics or even plan to vote in the next election
I think a lot of people here would agree with me (not all, but a lot) when I say that if you don't vote, you shouldn't be allowed to bitch. Don't complain unless you're trying to help solve the problem.

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i think it is very dangerous for a black man to become President


It's dangerous for anyone to become President. Every president (with one exception) who was elected in a year ending with 0 (1960, 1860, 1980, etc.) has had an assassination attempt on his life.

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although American has come a long way since slavery, i think this is still a very racist country
I agree, but probably not for the same reasons you do. Yes, there are white-boy cross-holding flag-waving hood-wearing rednecks, but that (in my opinion) is not the major reason for the racism in this country.

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I do like Obama but big speeches to me does not equal change


Every candidate in the history of every election in this country has made big speeches about what they are gonna do to change this country, and yet it almost never happens. So what makes Obama so vulnerable if he is no different than everyone else when it comes to promises?

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personally the President is nothing but a face behind the people whith the real power
Well, you're wrong on that one. Power of Veto (line-item and entire bill) gives him the ability to basically throw out any piece of legislation that Congress passes (unless Congress has a 2/3 vote thereafter and passes it anyway). He's also the Commander in Chief of the military, meaning he technically has the authority to give the military orders. Sounds like more than the face of a nation to me.

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and i dont think those people are ready for a black President


And what makes us "ready"? I personally think that the people of this country can handle a lot more than they have been told they can. If this country didn't want a black candidate, or female candidate, or any other type of candidate, they would never get this far into the primaries/caucuses.

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though the world would look at America more positively in my light


That's right - we should all care what the rest of the world thinks of our domestic politics as far as electing a president goes. Stop worrying about what everyone else thinks about our country. We're messed up and we know it. But we don't have to bow down to what every other country wants us to do to fix things.


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post Mar 5 2008, 09:33 PM
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wow Arch Angel thanks for the disection, but im not bitching, im just observing whats going on, ofcourse its dangerous for every president but as a black man Obama he has a greater risk. and Izzle what , do u think racism doesnt exist, i think the only reason Obama is in the lead now is becuase Racism is stronger that Feminism; which means people care less about beinf sexist that being racist


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post Mar 6 2008, 12:13 AM
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He's just as much white as he is Black.

And he won't be assassinated. White folks wouldn't gain anything from his death, because he's not saying or doing anything worthy of Black support right now. Barack Obama isn't Malcolm X, he's not Huey Newton, he is no different from the whites that are already there, hell he's half white even. And although he constantly stimulates false hope with his "change" slogans, he isn't promoting any real change. He's a trained politician who must walk a fine line between real social change or the end of his political career. There is no way Obama is going to fight the current system and replace it with a more equitable system. He's too invested in it. And his policies aren't any more pro-Black than Hilary Clinton's are.
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post Mar 6 2008, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(deejay @ Mar 5 2008, 05:52 AM) [snapback]1397587[/snapback]
im not personally big on politics or even plan to vote in the next election, but i think it is very dangerous for a black man to become President.


Dangerous.... Like, he won't be able to lead effectively? Or like... he'll become a muppet? Or like... no one will respect him?

OI. thats this president isn't it.
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although American has come a long way since slavery, i think this is still a very racist country and i think Obama's life could be threaten.
... Oh. You mean... dangerous for him. Well.. taking any office is dangerous... I mean, it was dangerous for Lincoln for example.... yet, i think most of us are still glad he was president.

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I do like Obama but big speeches to me does not equal change,
They did during world war 1, world war 2, and the cold war, the the black equality movement of the 60's, womans sufferage movements, ect. Nigguh plz.

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personally the President is nothing but a face behind the people whith the real power, and i dont think those people are ready for a black President


Couple of problems with this logic.

1. The president is only one part of the Government, he can't do everything... the congress as just as much if not more power than the president. So.. i would reckon those are the people you speak of...

If not

2. Your saying that their are people behind the president that have the "real power". If thats the case they are not elected, which would mean that they wouldn't necessarily change every four years, and it would also mean they would hold enormous power. Why would they even let Obama get this far if they hold all that power, if they aren't ready for a black president...


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post May 1 2008, 10:27 PM
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What we're not ready for, is a socialist president, which would be Obama or Hillary, but also, we're not ready for that super flip flop McCain either. First off, Obama is black, that's cool man, nothing wrong with that at all, it's only skin deep you know, it has nothing to do with his politics, but his politics are so shitty, and if he fails, which he will if he wins, the black president will be put on hold, because people are too ignorant to seperate race from politics. Hillary is the same case, she's got a lot of what Rush calls "Giner voters" and they're just voting with their certain body part, and it's not smart. Hillary is an awful choice, and she's a socialist, just as is Barack Obama. McCain is like 90, but like the two before, it has nothing to do with his political scheme. His politics, as before, are SHIT. He flips, and flops all over the place, kinda like John Kerry, but where is Kerry had a lot of them, McCain's waffling were huge, massive ones. He once said he was even considering switching over to the democratic party, just to show you what he really is, he's just a tweener. But, as a conservative, a 50% conservative is better than a -100% liberal ANY DAY.
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post May 2 2008, 08:51 PM
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and i dont think those people are ready for a black President though the world would look at America more positively in my light.



Even in the Middle East were they beleive Blacks are inferior. You'll probably never ever get rid of racism in the world. Until everyone is the same colour. And that will probably happen in like a couple O' Thousand years or summot.


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post May 3 2008, 10:01 AM
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and i dont think those people are ready for a black President though the world would look at America more positively in my light.



Even in the Middle East were they beleive Blacks are inferior. You'll probably never ever get rid of racism in the world. Until everyone is the same colour. And that will probably happen in like a couple O' Thousand years or summot.

I would dread living in a world where everyone looks the same; it would kill the whole point of diversity. Diversity is the key to life; imagine if we were to all drive the same car, what a world that would be huh? rolleyes.gif

To end discrimination we must set aside our differences and find a common goal but more importantly we must co-operate with one another. The whole argument of having one super race in the near future is just as racist and barbaric as someone saying that only white people should exist in this world. Before you know it, we'll find something else to fight about.

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post May 3 2008, 10:12 PM
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Im with you on this one Caliph. But with the current trend of race mixing (Obama himself) unfortunately it may happen.


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post May 4 2008, 06:36 PM
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^Yeah but you see that'll never happen. Natural selection would always be taking place, whether those super-race zealots like it or not.


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