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2008 Presidential Elections
Who Are You Going To Vote For?
John McCain [ 2 ] ** [5.13%]
Rudy Giuliani [ 4 ] ** [10.26%]
Mitt Romney [ 2 ] ** [5.13%]
John Edwards [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Barack Obama [ 17 ] ** [43.59%]
Hillary Clinton [ 6 ] ** [15.38%]
Dennis Kucinich [ 1 ] ** [2.56%]
Bill Richardson [ 1 ] ** [2.56%]
Elaine Brown [ 1 ] ** [2.56%]
Other (Specify) [ 5 ] ** [12.82%]
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Juice
post Jul 13 2007, 10:35 PM
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Let's have some real discussion on the current candidates. Who would you vote in the White house and why?
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post Jul 13 2007, 11:57 PM
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My first choice is McCain, my second choice is Clinton.

I chose those to because i think they have the best leadership ability.


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post Jul 14 2007, 12:45 AM
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I'm not American or anything but I've heard a load of people mention Ron Paul ?


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post Jul 14 2007, 12:56 AM
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Giuliani? Running for the presidents? Lol.
I hope he wins because then Agnostic Front's lyrics will still mean something.


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post Jul 14 2007, 01:11 AM
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I have no idea who ron paul is....


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post Jul 14 2007, 01:19 AM
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Fuck Agnostic Front. It's sad, I will be 18 when it comes time to vote... I still need to look at their platforms that way I don't vote off face value.


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post Jul 14 2007, 03:01 AM
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http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Click under his issues. I agree with most of what is said, especially about wars/foreign policy and such.

I dont agree with the abortion thing, but im not going around impregnating women either so I dont have to worry about that.

Lets put it this way, I like him more than any other candidates so far, BY FAR.

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I have no idea who ron paul is....



And you have political awareness?

You dont even know who the good candidates are because the news saturates your screens with asshole faggots like McCain.

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post Jul 14 2007, 04:09 AM
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Google search for the win, Bain? XD.

If you were that impressed by him, i'm sure you would have said something by now.... So PLEASE don't pretend like you knew anything about him before hand.

I would also add that knowing some two-bit congressman that has no hopes of winning the 2008 election does not qualify as "Political Awareness"


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post Jul 14 2007, 04:10 AM
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You are so needlessly egotistical.

I heard about him a few times already.

Nazis actually like him.
I had his website book marked, and yes, I have

But where would I have mentioned him so far?


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post Jul 14 2007, 04:24 AM
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Anywhere. If you know the guy is good, but isn't well known, it would be natural to talk about him. Otherwise your not really supporting him any O.o?


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So called free trade deals and world governmental organizations like the International Criminal Court (ICC), NAFTA, GATT, WTO, and CAFTA are a threat to our independence as a nation.
I can already tell, just from reading that, this guy is an idiot.


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The war in Iraq was sold to us with false information.


More like bad intel... based on the intel we had, the decision was correct.

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The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it.
Yeah, so it makes good since to leave then? O.o? Secondly, this fact doesn't mean the decision was wrong, it means the support and planning for the decision was wrong. Two different things.


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We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies, the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them.


Yeah, the regime was hated by a lot of people, including the United States.

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Both Jefferson and Washington warned us about entangling ourselves in the affairs of other nations. Today, we have troops in 130 countries. We are spread so thin that we have too few troops defending America. And now, there are new calls for a draft of our young men and women.
They're not credible calls. And oh, guess what, if our youth were forced to serve in the military, it wouldn't be the worst thing that could ever happen.

Secondly, we weren't a world power when Jefferson and Washington were around, and the world was a much larger place. It took 3 weeks to get to "the world" aka europe, when they were around. So what they had to say about international affairs is obsolete, and the mere fact that this guy choose to talk about Jefferson and Washington shows me that he isn't foward thinking.

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Under no circumstances should the U.S. again go to war as the result of a resolution that comes from an unelected, foreign body, such as the United Nations.


We own the united nations. Don't worry, if we don't want to fight a war for the united nations, all we have to do is veto the resolution.

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Too often we give foreign aid and intervene on behalf of governments that are despised. Then, we become despised. Too often we have supported those who turn on us, like the Kosovars who aid Islamic terrorists, or the Afghan jihads themselves, and their friend Osama bin Laden. We armed and trained them, and now we’re paying the price.
Oversimplification.

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Let us have a strong America, conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations.


But, you just said you were against free trade agreements? O.o


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post Jul 14 2007, 04:24 AM
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QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ Jul 13 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]1346037[/snapback]
Google search for the win, Bain? XD.

If you were that impressed by him, i'm sure you would have said something by now.... So PLEASE don't pretend like you knew anything about him before hand.

I would also add that knowing some two-bit congressman that has no hopes of winning the 2008 election does not qualify as "Political Awareness"

He's pretty popular on white pride websites, like Stormfront.
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post Jul 14 2007, 04:28 AM
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QUOTE(Juice @ Jul 14 2007, 04:24 AM) [snapback]1346059[/snapback]
QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ Jul 13 2007, 11:09 PM) [snapback]1346037[/snapback]
Google search for the win, Bain? XD.

If you were that impressed by him, i'm sure you would have said something by now.... So PLEASE don't pretend like you knew anything about him before hand.

I would also add that knowing some two-bit congressman that has no hopes of winning the 2008 election does not qualify as "Political Awareness"

He's pretty popular on white pride websites, like Stormfront.


fantastic. Thats the guy I want running things... A guy who can really appeal to white trash America.


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post Jul 14 2007, 04:50 AM
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Im sorry no government seizure, lower taxes, gun rights, privacy, and opposition to outward military contact are all inbred white traits and McCain's bullshit is for Americans elite thinkers.

If R. P. does appeal to white trash America, he should win just like your favorite president, QD, Bush.


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post Jul 14 2007, 05:13 AM
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I honestly believe all the presidential candidates with the exception of Dennis Kucinich (who definitely isn't perfect) are too entrenched with the political status quo of this country. I have little to no faith in this electoral process. Nobody is trying to fulfill any sort of meaningful change in regard to the most pertinent issues effecting this country and particularly Blacks. It's bullshit, they're all trained politicians who must walk a fine line between real domestic change or the end of their political career.

I could vote for Hilary because she was the wife of Bill Clinton. We know that when Bill was president, the economy was good to alot of blacks. 13 million jobs were created under Clinton's watch. We hit the lowest unemployment rate in 3 decades. And the lowest poverty rate since 1979. But Hilary has so much views differing from Bill's. I'm not sure how effective of a president she would be. I could vote for Obama simply because he's a Black man running for the highest office in the land, but his lack of credibility on real issues (outside of his opposition to the Iraq war) gives plenty of reason for anyone; especially blacks, not to vote for him. He's more of a Black face representing white interests. He's physically Black and mentally something else.

If I was forced to vote Republican at gunpoint, then I'd probably go with Ron Paul. Simply because he's against the War on Drugs (which has become a war against poor Blacks and Hispanics) and because he opposes American Imperialism. But the fact that he has the backing of numerous Nazi groups and such, is disheartening.

But as it stands now, I'm either voting Elaine Brown or Dennis Kucinich. Both probably won't make it past their party primaries.
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post Jul 14 2007, 05:23 AM
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I think its mainly the non race issues the nazis support him for, PLUS immigration stances.

I have yet to read about his general stance on crime.


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post Jul 14 2007, 05:41 AM
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Good video for all those interested: Barack Obama, John Edwards, and Dennis Kucinich discuss inequality in America.

[Youtube]4_GkU9sd18A[/Youtube]

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After watching that video juice I'm with the last two, obama and dennis. I've seen John Edwards talking about equality for african americans but shit when I heard obama say we made plenty advances since slavery, he was on point and when he said not just for african americans but for everybody.... he hit it right on the fucking nail, Juice is a prime example, this guy is probably the most educated dude on here and he's BLACK, and shit I ain't gonna go around talkin about people life's so but I wouldn't bet money that he had it good his whole life. I know plenty of creoles and latinos who have it worse than black people living in desire projects slangin dope makin crack from coke and baking soda then hit the corner with it stupid ass idiots,. So I thought Obama has this topic on lock... then I heard dennis, now dennis basically just changed the subject but I liked what I was hearing regardless, fuck tests... I made better grades on worksheets and looking in the back of the textbook for answers than what I did on tests... lol, not really I fucking slept through class and aced those tests but failed the regular assaignments because I knew the material already, don't blame me blame the boring ass ex-college proffesor ol monotone decaf coffee drinkin ass nigga. But seriously I need some enlightenment on some of the key runners so I can figure my vote.

But Obama had that topic. So far obama has my vote... if not Obama, I'll vote the next best democrat, fuck republicans.


But seriously I would bet money he gets assasinated by some dumb racist fuck.

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I'm not American, but from what I have randomly followed the US election stuff, I'd vote for Obama.


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post Jul 14 2007, 10:47 AM
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Theres a big huge stooshy about ron paul at digg, EVERYBODY is complaining that the media pick who they want and just ignore everybody else, thus how ron paul has never been heard of by the average yank. the media are not fair at all. There was a graph about some presidential debate, it showed how much time each candidate got and it was just horrifying how much of a difference there was.

Qdeath, on a GTA forum, you said you would vote hilary?

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post Jul 14 2007, 04:12 PM
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Yeah, true.

I think they mentioned that on John Stewart, and he actually was on the Colbert Report or something like that a while ago.

Then I did like what his position are and what he said.

Its sad that good candidates get not publicity because its all about money.


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