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post Mar 25 2006, 02:44 PM
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http://www.nationalvanguard.org/

well i found that site by accident last week, and i thought it was just a bunch of people fed up with how a black person can call a white person a skanky hoe, but if a white person calls a black person a skanky hoe thats racism, and i thought, thats a fair point, i'm a bit fed up of being called a racist if i say a black joke, even tho black people make money from telling joke about while people (i an't saying i don't think its funny, just its a bit like sexism, even tho its fair, woman always get the upperhand)

so then after looking thru the site i find a band called 'Prussian Blue'

that all looks sweet and innocent, but i'm getting the feeling something isn't as friendly as it seems, so after thinking i must be insane thinking these sites are secretly promoting white supremacy, and relgious 'cleansing' i had a quick look on google, and found this interesting article

anywho, another link in me mind was that i noticed someone on this forum seemed to fit the bill for being an avid supporter of this stuff, and thought before this person was just joking tongue.gif but its all a bit crazy, if anyone can be bothered to read it, i'm just wondering on other peoples opinons?
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post Mar 25 2006, 03:02 PM
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Oh god.

Just reading the bottom news article about a cutesy-girl rock act about glorifying Hitler makes me sick.

Makes me feel like they're trying to undermine and brainwash the youth early into hatred.
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post Mar 25 2006, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(Stead @ Mar 25 2006, 11:22 AM) [snapback]1121447[/snapback]

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/

well i found that site by accident last week, and i thought it was just a bunch of people fed up with how a black person can call a white person a skanky hoe, but if a white person calls a black person a skanky hoe thats racism, and i thought, thats a fair point, i'm a bit fed up of being called a racist if i say a black joke, even tho black people make money from telling joke about while people (i an't saying i don't think its funny, just its a bit like sexism, even tho its fair, woman always get the upperhand)

so then after looking thru the site i find a band called 'Prussian Blue'

that all looks sweet and innocent, but i'm getting the feeling something isn't as friendly as it seems, so after thinking i must be insane thinking these sites are secretly promoting white supremacy, and relgious 'cleansing' i had a quick look on google, and found this interesting article

anywho, another link in me mind was that i noticed someone on this forum seemed to fit the bill for being an avid supporter of this stuff, and thought before this person was just joking tongue.gif but its all a bit crazy, if anyone can be bothered to read it, i'm just wondering on other peoples opinons?


I'm not going to talk about this whole "white suprecmacy" as there's no point in engaging in a discussion that I repetitively engaged in the past. Anyways, Prussian Blue is just a singing band. They're not NS at all. Sure they can support it and feel like there's nothing wrong with NS, but I don't consider Lynx Gaede and Lamb Gaede NS. Just because they wear shirts with a hitler smiley face doesn't mean anything. They're White Nationalists. I don't favor their music as its not the music that I like, mine is more along the lines of hatecore and NS metal.

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Oh god.

Just reading the bottom news article about a cutesy-girl rock act about glorifying Hitler makes me sick.

Makes me feel like they're trying to undermine and brainwash the youth early into hatred.


Well now you know how I feel when I see a million people glorifying criminal rappers who get rich off their criminal lifestyle that influences the youth to act the same way. Brainwashing the youth into hatred laugh.gif . Its called awakening and being pragmatic. If you consider these little gals brainwashed, then you'll be surprised how "brainwashed" my child is going to be when I have one laugh.gif .


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QUOTE(Albino @ Mar 25 2006, 11:40 AM) [snapback]1121450[/snapback]

Oh god.

Just reading the bottom news article about a cutesy-girl rock act about glorifying Hitler makes me sick.

Makes me feel like they're trying to undermine and brainwash the youth early into hatred.


Well now you know how I feel when I see a million people glorifying criminal rappers who get rich off their criminal lifestyle that influences the youth to act the same way. Brainwashing the youth into hatred laugh.gif . Its called awakening and being pragmatic. If you consider these little gals brainwashed, then you'll be surprised how "brainwashed" my child is going to be when I have one laugh.gif .



Also.....how it looks when millions of people support a guilty criminal or part of society such as the Rodney King incident, and the Tookie Smith incident.


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I think you'll find Hitler and the fascist movement had a worse affect on society than Tookie Williams...


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He took a demilitarized, 0 pride, economic downfall nation into a world superpower in 15 years after WWI.

* Between 1933 and 1939, the marriage rate had increased by 9.2%.
* Hitler turned around an economy.
* Hitler set up a health insurance scheme for all Germans that only cost 10 cents per person per day that would fund the whole health sector. People paid for what they used, hence no one could complain about unfair taxes.
* Nazi Germany was one of the only countries not to deny women the right to vote during war time.
* Hitler enacted the first laws to protect animals from cruelty which afforded them protection in line with what humans received, this law existed till the late 1970's till it was renamed in an effort to de-Nazify Germany.
* Nazi Germany provided unlimited money towards an alternative fuel source other than oil by investing in synthetic petrol and electric power generation.
* Hitler also invested in anti-gravity theories.
* Hitler invested heavily into rocket technology, the A-10 rocket was used as the basis for the launch of the Sputnic satellite after WW2.
* Outlawed medical experimentation on animals.
* He undertook a war against the Communist horde that no major power in the world would do, or has done yet by the way.
* He put the power of the state in the hands of an all German state instead of the Jews.
* His Nazi party was one of the first to start a war on cancer.
* Under his leadership the first blood tests were given to drivers that were under the influence of Alcohol.
* The party, under Hitler's command, encouraged family morals, motherhood, fatherhood, respect and honor.
* Hitler was actually a believer in women's rights and wanted to help abused and disenfranchised women. Hence the motherhood programs came into place.
* He was an environmentalist seeking to protect nature clean air, water.
* Brave and decorated soldier of WW1.
* Artist, lover of the Arts, both Classical music and Architecture.
* He envisioned the Autobahn and Volkswagen.
* Gave the German workers the first May Day.
* Under "Strength Through Joy" gave paid vacation trips to workers.

Oh yes, he was such an evil creature.

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QUOTE(Stead @ Mar 25 2006, 11:22 AM) [snapback]1121447[/snapback]

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/

well i found that site by accident last week, and i thought it was just a bunch of people fed up with how a black person can call a white person a skanky hoe, but if a white person calls a black person a skanky hoe thats racism, and i thought, thats a fair point, i'm a bit fed up of being called a racist if i say a black joke, even tho black people make money from telling joke about while people (i an't saying i don't think its funny, just its a bit like sexism, even tho its fair, woman always get the upperhand)

so then after looking thru the site i find a band called 'Prussian Blue'

that all looks sweet and innocent, but i'm getting the feeling something isn't as friendly as it seems, so after thinking i must be insane thinking these sites are secretly promoting white supremacy, and relgious 'cleansing' i had a quick look on google, and found this interesting article

anywho, another link in me mind was that i noticed someone on this forum seemed to fit the bill for being an avid supporter of this stuff, and thought before this person was just joking tongue.gif but its all a bit crazy, if anyone can be bothered to read it, i'm just wondering on other peoples opinons?



1. Skankey hoe? seriously...

2. The word nigger would have made more since

3. yawn. YA, we know all about the "white man's burden"



And, As for you fido.. I doubt that you'll find may people who will argue that Hitler wasnt a genious... but, just because he was a genious, doesnt mean he wasnt evil. If he didnt do those things which you listed, he wouldnt have became powerful enough to commit the atroucitities he did commit. If he had of just stoped there, with the things you listed, Germany might be where america is now... but he decided to use his talents for evil... and he ended up killing himself. What a man, what a pussy. .....

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Hitler enacted the first laws to protect animals from cruelty which afforded them protection in line with what humans received, this law existed till the late 1970's till it was renamed in an effort to de-Nazify Germany.


How much protection is that? inline with what humans recieve.. Gassing, torture and starvation? RLY?

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Hitler invested heavily into rocket technology, the A-10 rocket was used as the basis for the launch of the Sputnic satellite after WW2


he invested in military weaponry. :YAY:....

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* He put the power of the state in the hands of an all German state instead of the Jews.


YA. because, like, the jews ruled the world!



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Fido, stop being ridiculous. I realise he turned the economy around, but that's academic since he destroyed it again by picking a war with one too many countries.


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Hahaha, Stalin killed his own people.

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And, As for you fido.. I doubt that you'll find may people who will argue that Hitler wasnt a genious... but, just because he was a genious, doesnt mean he wasnt evil. If he didnt do those things which you listed, he wouldnt have became powerful enough to commit the atroucitities he did commit. If he had of just stoped there, with the things you listed, Germany might be where america is now... but he decided to use his talents for evil... and he ended up killing himself. What a man, what a pussy. .....


And what evil is this exactly? You have no proof that he did all those things just to gain support from Germans. He loves his nation and his people and that's what National Socialism is about. As for the Jew, Hitler was brilliant enough to catch up on their schemes from a very early era. Something that most people could not detect, but he detected it. After WWI, Germany was very poor. Sort of like the Great Depression. The Jews in Germany took advantage of this bad situation and went and sold a lot of cheap things to Germans for high prices. The rich Jews controlled the banks and have intervened into the classy European households. Disguising themselves as clean Europeans so that they would not reveal their Asiastic Jewish appearance to the true Europeans. Therefore, causing a disturbance by blending in as Europeans so they could easily handle their maneuvers. Hitler simply planned on shipping them to Madagascar, but the Jews did not accept this and started a boycott against Germany. Therefore, Judea declared war on Germany.

Next approach from you will be the dreaded Jewish holocaust. I am not going to deny that Adolf Hitler killed Jews, but certainly not 6,000,000. Not even close to 6,000,000. The fact is that the majority of people were indoctrinated from a young age in schools to believe this propaganda. "Hitler was an evil man! Hitler killed lots of Jews! Hitler turned Jews into soap!" The same lies that I believed halfway of my life. Until I woke from this horseshit and started to question things and I became pragmatic. It is not my fault that I like to question things and be more open-minded and believe that there are two sides to every story. I guess a lot of people do not have that characteristic anymore due to the severe indoctrination through the educational facilities.

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It was used for space experiments? Hell, I bet Germany would be the first to go to the moon if it wasn't for WWII.

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I'm not all for white supremacy but I am up for blacks shutting the fuck up in regards to the reverse discrimination and ebonics.

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And what evil is this exactly? You have no proof that he did all those things just to gain support from Germans. He loves his nation and his people and that's what National Socialism is about. As for the Jew, Hitler was brilliant enough to catch up on their schemes from a very early era. Something that most people could not detect, but he detected it. After WWI, Germany was very poor. Sort of like the Great Depression. The Jews in Germany took advantage of this bad situation and went and sold a lot of cheap things to Germans for high prices. The rich Jews controlled the banks and have intervened into the classy European households. Disguising themselves as clean Europeans so that they would not reveal their Asiastic Jewish appearance to the true Europeans. Therefore, causing a disturbance by blending in as Europeans so they could easily handle their maneuvers. Hitler simply planned on shipping them to Madagascar, but the Jews did not accept this and started a boycott against Germany. Therefore, Judea declared war on Germany.


It doenst matter. I didnt say that he DID do those things JUST, I said that those things are what GAVE him power. v.v

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Next approach from you will be the dreaded Jewish holocaust. I am not going to deny that Adolf Hitler killed Jews, but certainly not 6,000,000. Not even close to 6,000,000. The fact is that the majority of people were indoctrinated from a young age in schools to believe this propaganda. "Hitler was an evil man! Hitler killed lots of Jews! Hitler turned Jews into soap!" The same lies that I believed halfway of my life. Until I woke from this horseshit and started to question things and I became pragmatic. It is not my fault that I like to question things and be more open-minded and believe that there are two sides to every story. I guess a lot of people do not have that characteristic anymore due to the severe indoctrination through the educational facilities.


How many jews did he kill then? What made those deaths justified... I dont care if he killed 1million or 6million. Its still wrong and in his case, evil. What makes the death of one Jewish child justified? They werent strapping bombs to theirselves or planning any rebellion.. 1million jews, or 6million, does it matter? not really.

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he invested in military weaponry. :YAY:....


It was used for space experiments? Hell, I bet Germany would be the first to go to the moon if it wasn't for WWII.


YOU do know that there is almost no difference between a rocket that can be used to put something in space and a rocket that can be used to carry an ICBM, right?
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You may think its a joke, but the truth cannot be a joke.


XD. ORLY? evidence... but please, nothing from KKK.com or ThejewishConspiracy.org please ....

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He's going to come at you with some shit about 74,000 jews dying =/

Not that any of this matters, he got his non-Aryan ass kicked.


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It doenst matter. I didnt say that he DID do those things JUST, I said that those things are what GAVE him power. v.v


Yeah? And so what? Even if it didn't give him power, he would still continue to do those things because was a National Socialist. That's what National Socialism is about.

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How many jews did he kill then? What made those deaths justified... I dont care if he killed 1million or 6million. Its still wrong and in his case, evil. What makes the death of one Jewish child justified? They werent strapping bombs to theirselves or planning any rebellion.. 1million jews, or 6million, does it matter? not really.


I am estimating about 74,000. What made those deaths justified? Are you kidding me? What made the Jews taking advantage of a bad situation after WWI justified? What made them taking control of all the banks justified? Evil my ass. If you think 74,000 deaths is some how evil then you have to acknowledge that all of human history is "EVIL". From the day of dawn there have been murderings and many without reasons. Just look at ancient history for perfect examples of the most brutal empires, which make the Nazis look like a bunch of wimps. In this case with Hitler, it was the most reasonable. Hitler had no plans on killing the Jews. He simply wanted to ship them back to Madagascar. The Jews rebutted this and instead started a boycott against Germany. Therefore, Judea declared war on Germany. That's right, the JEWS declared war on Deutschland. Are you to say that Hitler was the most evil person ever to set foot on this Earth while Zionist tyrants who have trod this world for 100 years with an iron fist continue their crimes against Palestinians and other Arabs? That sounds certainly evil to me and of course George W. Bush and Tony Blair supporting and helping out these Zionist war crimes. That sounds terribly EVIL to me.

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YOU do know that there is almost no difference between a rocket that can be used to put something in space and a rocket that can be used to carry an ICBM, right?


What is your point exactly? He used it for space experiments not for attacking other nations.

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XD. ORLY? evidence... but please, nothing from KKK.com or ThejewishConspiracy.org please ....


You know I can put a thousand XD's and ORLY? YARLY!!'s too. That doesn't really help the discussion, now does it? The TRUTH cannot be biased. No matter who chooses to use the truth. Whether it be neo-Nazis, revisionists, or Arabs. You will always put a label and say "Hey, you can't believe what they say because.... well... THEY'RE EVIL NAZIS, HOLOCAUST DENIERS, AND TERRORISTS!" Google it yourself and you will find out who controls the major media outlets such as ABC/capital cities/Disney, CBS/Viacom, AOL-Time Warner, Vivendi/Universal, Fox broadcasting/News Corporation, Dreamworks SKG, Columbia Pictures, NBC/GE, Associated Press, Newhouse Media empire, New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, New York Daily News, Top American Radio. And we all know that the media is a very powerful tool for brainwashing the masses, e.g. MTV. The director of homeland security Michael Chertoff is Jewish. Daniel Goldin, a Jew, has been in control of NASA since 1992.

One of Bush's Foreign Policy Advisors, Richard Perle, is a known Jew with a history of sending classified government documents to the Israeli Embassy and also worked for Soltam, an Israeli company which builds weapons. Yet, he is allowed to continue working in our government. A close friend of Perle's is Jewboy Paul Wolfowitz, Bush's Deputy Defense Secretary. This list just goes on. The Jews Robert Satloff and Elliott Abrams are National Security Council Advisors. Dov Zekheim, Under Secretary of Defense and Comptroller, reportedly has dual citizenship with Israel. Douglas Feith, Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon has even closer ties with Israel. He is closely associated with the Zionist Organization of America, and runs a law firm which has only one office located in Israel.

Marc Grossman, a Jew, is Bush's Under Secretary of State of Political Affairs. Richard Haass, Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at Large, is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. He likes to promote bombing Iraq, as does Robert Zoellick, another Jew (U.S. Trade Representative). Other Jews include Henry Kissinger and James Schlesinger (both pentagon advisors who advocate bombing Iraq). Steve Goldsmith, Senior Advisor to the President, makes frequent trips to Israel.

Mel Sembler President of the export-Import Bank of the United States is a Jew. Joshua Bolten Chief Policy Director is a Jew. Adam Goldman, the White House Special Liaison to the Jewish Community is a Jew. Joseph Gildenhorn, Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community. Christopher Gersten, Former Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition. He is married to Linda Chavez, Labor Secretary. Mark Weinberger, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury is a Jew. Samuel Bodman, Deputy Secretary of Commerce is a Jew. Bonnie Cohen, Under Secretary of State for Management is a Jew. Ruth Davis, Director of Foreign Service Institute is a Jew. Lincoln Bloomfield, Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs is a Jew. Jay Lefkowitz, General Counsel of the Office of Budget and Management is a Jew. David Frum, White House Speechwriter is a Jew.

President Nixon once stated "People have to realize that Jews in the U.S. control the entire information and propaganda machine, the large newspapers, the motion pictures, radio and television, and the big
companies. And there is a force we have to take into consideration."

Additionally, American politicians, for the most part, are controlled by Jewish plutocrats, many of whom reside in Israel, as well. This is why Americanpoliticians are hesitant to be critical of Israel. This is not some bizarre "anti-Semitic fantasy," as Jews would like some people to believe. Rather, it is a fact with which America has to admit. Indeed, as much of the Internet has heard by now, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon openly gloats about such control. On October 3, 2001, the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs noted something rather disturbing that Sharon said on Israeli public radio:

"We the Jewish people control America. And the Americans know it."

Paul Findley, a congressman from Illinois for 22 years, documented this fact quite well in his book They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israels Lobby. If there were no others who would corroborate Findleys findings, it would be easy to discredit him as simply an anti-Semite. However, he cites numerous other politicians who have also pointed out this disturbing matter.

Apparently, this is how it works: Jews are allowed to have dual-citizenship between the U.S. and Israel. America gives Israel $4 billion a year that it does not pay back (and this doesnt necessarily include military secrets and hardware, plus occasional bank-bailouts and other matters). The Jews who are dual-citizens take a small portion of this $4 billion and re-invest it in American politics, choosing U.S. politicians who are likely to support Israel. (It is believed that Israel has somewhere around 300 different political action committees working inside of America, led by Jews with dual-citizenship.) Aside from Findleys book, the book Stealth PACs also describes how some of these pro-Israeli groups use seemingly innocuous names to hide their pro-Israel agenda at American taxpayers expense.

How much has this unchecked support of Israel cost American taxpayers? The well-respected economist Dr. Thomas Stauffer stated that Americas financial loss due to its support of Israel is about $1.7 trillion in todays dollars, roughly one-third of America's deficit. Numerous political figures have gone on record about this insane support of Israel that some endorse, shown below.

In February 1957, Secretary of State John Foster Dulles promulgated, "I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews."

Likewise, when Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Brown a question:

How can we stop Israel from obtaining from the Congress more foreign aid than any other nation in the world?

To this, General Brown responded:

When they get tough-minded enough to set down the Jewish influence in this country and break that lobby. It is so strong, you wouldnt believe it. Now, we have the Israelis coming to us for equipment. We say we cant probably get the Congress to support a program like this. And they say, Dont worry about the Congress. We will take care of the Congress. This is somebody from another country. But they can do it.

When some Jews countered with the usual argument that Gen. Brown was merely an anti-Semite, General M.B. Twining, a hero of WWII and the Korean War who was Commander of the U.S. Air Force, reportedly told the
San Diego Union:

A group of powerful U.S. Jews have grotesquely distorted U.S. foreign policy in blind fanatic support of Israel, and Gen. Brown deserves praise, not criticism, for saying so. As head of our nations armed forces, he sees us--a nation of 200 million people--being dragooned into a disastrous war . . . by a ruthless lobby of Jewish-American extremists single-mindedly bent on enforcing their rule or ruin policy in the Middle East.

Admiral Thomas Moorer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff described this alarming pattern as well:

"I've never seen a PresidentĒI don't care who he isĒstand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want.... If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms.

Jews openly gloat about their control over America. And it extends beyond Sharon's aforementioned comments, bragging about his control over America. Indeed, one popular Jewish publication even had a caricature of President Bush drawn. It depicted him as a comical wooden puppet, pulled by Jewish strings.

These are the facts of the Jewish control in America. Anyone willing to spend a few hours in a large library looking into current editions of yearbooks on the radio and television, into directories of newspapers and magazines; into registers of corporations and their officers, such as Standard and Poors; and into biographical reference works can easily verify their accuracy. Much can also be verified by just using Google online.

The facts of Jewish media control are undeniable. According to 2000 US census figures, Jews make up only 2.5% of the total US population. Yet Jews own and control 98% of all US media. Such a massive takeover by a small minority didn't happen by chance. It was part of a long term Zionist plan to control American by brainwashing the minds of the public. By manipulating the masses who vote for and elect our corrupt politicans.

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Not that any of this matters, he got his non-Aryan ass kicked.


Non-Aryan? Anyways, the only reason he lost was because he went to war with Russia during the winter, plus all the various countries attacking from the west. I'll admit that it was a foolish mistake on his behalf.


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Holocaust revisionists estimate between 500,000 and 1 million Jews died during that time.

But, as "the killer of his own people" said, "One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic."


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While I don't agree with this whole ZOG thing,I do agree that Hitler was one of the greatest military geniuses in history,and the greatest military tactician of the 20th century.Unfortunately,due to this he developed a major ego,which eventually led to his downfall.If he could of let Stalingrad go,and sent his forces around it and on to Moscow,and let the rearward forces take care of Stalingrad once it was completely surrounded by German forces,he could of won the war in Russia.

Unfortunately he was so obsessed with toppling the city due to it being named in Stalin's honor that he did some very stupid things despite his commanders trying to prevent him from doing so.The most stupid thing he did,obviously,was try to fight the war during the harsh Russian winter,which the Nazi forces had never dealt with before,but the Russians lived in it and it was no problem for them.

The next most stupid thing he did was to not retreat from Stalingrad and regroup his forces.Had they retreated and regrouped they might of actually stood a chance against the Russian counter offensive,but the way things were the Nazi forces were spread way to thin to actually have any chance of defeating or even just stopping the massive Russian counter offensive.

So while Hitler was an unequaled military tactition,his ego was what ultimately destroyed the Third Reich.He could not accept a small defeat,a defeat that could of actually won the war for the Nazi's had they retreated and regrouped from it.

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It doenst matter. I didnt say that he DID do those things JUST, I said that those things are what GAVE him power. v.v


Yeah? And so what? Even if it didn't give him power, he would still continue to do those things because was a National Socialist. That's what National Socialism is about.


He was allowed and convinced others to kill jews because he was a National Socialist. Well, I'll make sure to knock that group of my donations list XD.

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How many jews did he kill then? What made those deaths justified... I dont care if he killed 1million or 6million. Its still wrong and in his case, evil. What makes the death of one Jewish child justified? They werent strapping bombs to theirselves or planning any rebellion.. 1million jews, or 6million, does it matter? not really.


I am estimating about 74,000. What made those deaths justified? Are you kidding me? What made the Jews taking advantage of a bad situation after WWI justified? What made them taking control of all the banks justified?


how did they "take advantage" over the situation... And what makes the fact that they were the only people interested in running banks in defeated germany bad...?

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Evil my ass. If you think 74,000 deaths is some how evil then you have to acknowledge that all of human history is "EVIL".


Much of human history is evil...

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JEWS declared war on Deutschland.


OH yes. roll2.gif with the weapons they had! So, why dont we kill the children who had nothing to with the threat! Ah hoy! XD ... please.

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Are you to say that Hitler was the most evil person ever to set foot on this Earth while Zionist tyrants who have trod this world for 100 years with an iron fist continue their crimes against Palestinians and other Arabs? That sounds certainly evil to me and of course George W. Bush and Tony Blair supporting and helping out these Zionist war crimes. That sounds terribly EVIL to me.


Listen. the difference is that the terrorists actually attacked us.... and are obviously a threat. We are just too disorganized and to undisciplined not to fuck up. In Hitlers case he just decided to round up a bunch of jews and kill them because they didnt let him get into his fancy art school.

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YOU do know that there is almost no difference between a rocket that can be used to put something in space and a rocket that can be used to carry an ICBM, right?


What is your point exactly? He used it for space experiments not for attacking other nations.


thats exactly what Iran "says" and we trust Iran, dont we. XD. My point is how do you know he ONLY used it to explore space, when any exploration into space rocketry is exploration into ICBM technology (atleast at that point)
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XD. ORLY? evidence... but please, nothing from KKK.com or ThejewishConspiracy.org please ....


You know I can put a thousand XD's and ORLY? YARLY!!'s too. That doesn't really help the discussion, now does it?


yes, actaully it does. Because, your support of hitler is a joke. And im laughing at you, and it. o.o XD

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The director of homeland security Michael Chertoff is Jewish. Daniel Goldin, a Jew, has been in control of NASA since 1992.




One of Bush's Foreign Policy Advisors, Richard Perle, is a known Jew with a history of sending classified government documents to the Israeli Embassy and also worked for Soltam, an Israeli company which builds weapons. Yet, he is allowed to continue working in our government. A close friend of Perle's is Jewboy Paul Wolfowitz, Bush's Deputy Defense Secretary. This list just goes on. The Jews Robert Satloff and Elliott Abrams are National Security Council Advisors. Dov Zekheim, Under Secretary of Defense and Comptroller, reportedly has dual citizenship with Israel. Douglas Feith, Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon has even closer ties with Israel. He is closely associated with the Zionist Organization of America, and runs a law firm which has only one office located in Israel.

Marc Grossman, a Jew, is Bush's Under Secretary of State of Political Affairs. Richard Haass, Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at Large, is also Director of National Security Programs and Senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. He likes to promote bombing Iraq, as does Robert Zoellick, another Jew (U.S. Trade Representative). Other Jews include Henry Kissinger and James Schlesinger (both pentagon advisors who advocate bombing Iraq). Steve Goldsmith, Senior Advisor to the President, makes frequent trips to Israel.

Mel Sembler President of the export-Import Bank of the United States is a Jew. Joshua Bolten Chief Policy Director is a Jew. Adam Goldman, the White House Special Liaison to the Jewish Community is a Jew. Joseph Gildenhorn, Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community. Christopher Gersten, Former Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition. He is married to Linda Chavez, Labor Secretary. Mark Weinberger, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury is a Jew. Samuel Bodman, Deputy Secretary of Commerce is a Jew. Bonnie Cohen, Under Secretary of State for Management is a Jew. Ruth Davis, Director of Foreign Service Institute is a Jew. Lincoln Bloomfield, Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs is a Jew. Jay Lefkowitz, General Counsel of the Office of Budget and Management is a Jew. David Frum, White House Speechwriter is a Jew.

President Nixon once stated "People have to realize that Jews in the U.S. control the entire information and propaganda machine, the large newspapers, the motion pictures, radio and television, and the big
companies. And there is a force we have to take into consideration."

Additionally, American politicians, for the most part, are controlled by Jewish plutocrats, many of whom reside in Israel, as well. This is why Americanpoliticians are hesitant to be critical of Israel. This is not some bizarre "anti-Semitic fantasy," as Jews would like some people to believe. Rather, it is a fact with which America has to admit. Indeed, as much of the Internet has heard by now, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon openly gloats about such control. On October 3, 2001, the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs noted something rather disturbing that Sharon said on Israeli public radio:

"We the Jewish people control America. And the Americans know it."

Paul Findley, a congressman from Illinois for 22 years, documented this fact quite well in his book They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israels Lobby. If there were no others who would corroborate Findleys findings, it would be easy to discredit him as simply an anti-Semite. However, he cites numerous other politicians who have also pointed out this disturbing matter.

Apparently, this is how it works: Jews are allowed to have dual-citizenship between the U.S. and Israel. America gives Israel $4 billion a year that it does not pay back (and this doesnt necessarily include military secrets and hardware, plus occasional bank-bailouts and other matters). The Jews who are dual-citizens take a small portion of this $4 billion and re-invest it in American politics, choosing U.S. politicians who are likely to support Israel. (It is believed that Israel has somewhere around 300 different political action committees working inside of America, led by Jews with dual-citizenship.) Aside from Findleys book, the book Stealth PACs also describes how some of these pro-Israeli groups use seemingly innocuous names to hide their pro-Israel agenda at American taxpayers expense.

How much has this unchecked support of Israel cost American taxpayers? The well-respected economist Dr. Thomas Stauffer stated that Americas financial loss due to its support of Israel is about $1.7 trillion in todays dollars, roughly one-third of America's deficit. Numerous political figures have gone on record about this insane support of Israel that some endorse, shown below.

In February 1957, Secretary of State John Foster Dulles promulgated, "I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews."

Likewise, when Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Brown a question:

How can we stop Israel from obtaining from the Congress more foreign aid than any other nation in the world?

To this, General Brown responded:

When they get tough-minded enough to set down the Jewish influence in this country and break that lobby. It is so strong, you wouldnt believe it. Now, we have the Israelis coming to us for equipment. We say we cant probably get the Congress to support a program like this. And they say, Dont worry about the Congress. We will take care of the Congress. This is somebody from another country. But they can do it.

When some Jews countered with the usual argument that Gen. Brown was merely an anti-Semite, General M.B. Twining, a hero of WWII and the Korean War who was Commander of the U.S. Air Force, reportedly told the
San Diego Union:

A group of powerful U.S. Jews have grotesquely distorted U.S. foreign policy in blind fanatic support of Israel, and Gen. Brown deserves praise, not criticism, for saying so. As head of our nations armed forces, he sees us--a nation of 200 million people--being dragooned into a disastrous war . . . by a ruthless lobby of Jewish-American extremists single-mindedly bent on enforcing their rule or ruin policy in the Middle East.

Admiral Thomas Moorer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff described this alarming pattern as well:

"I've never seen a President”I don't care who he is”stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want.... If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms.

Jews openly gloat about their control over America. And it extends beyond Sharon's aforementioned comments, bragging about his control over America. Indeed, one popular Jewish publication even had a caricature of President Bush drawn. It depicted him as a comical wooden puppet, pulled by Jewish strings.

These are the facts of the Jewish control in America. Anyone willing to spend a few hours in a large library looking into current editions of yearbooks on the radio and television, into directories of newspapers and magazines; into registers of corporations and their officers, such as Standard and Poors; and into biographical reference works can easily verify their accuracy. Much can also be verified by just using Google online.

The facts of Jewish media control are undeniable. According to 2000 US census figures, Jews make up only 2.5% of the total US population. Yet Jews own and control 98% of all US media. Such a massive takeover by a small minority didn't happen by chance. It was part of a long term Zionist plan to control American by brainwashing the minds of the public. By manipulating the masses who vote for and elect our corrupt politicans.


Nominates FIDO for the new COPY AND POST KING!

You do realize that the United States has national security interests in keeping isreal happy, and that it shouldnt be much of supprise when the united states keeps Isreal happy by sending them 4 million dollars or letting that little bit of spying take place. You know why they do it? Thats because Isreal is the only powerful middle eastern ally the United States has. ALSO! GUESS WHAT! The United States right this instance is taking steps to reduce their dependence on isreal. It isnt that we "love the jews" or that the "jews own us" if that were the case, I highly doubt that they would want us setting up bases in Afganistan and Iraq, and supporting elections in which Hammas was voted in as the Ruling party. Wake up buddy.
It is funny though, No jew has became president. hmm.
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Not that any of this matters, he got his non-Aryan ass kicked.


Non-Aryan? Anyways, the only reason he lost was because he went to war with Russia during the winter, plus all the various countries attacking from the west. I'll admit that it was a foolish mistake on his behalf.


The only reason he lost because because he was stupid and arrogant.

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QUOTE(mello_yello @ Mar 26 2006, 09:49 AM) [snapback]1121869[/snapback]

I think you'll find Hitler and the fascist movement had a worse affect on society than Tookie Williams...



DID I SAY IT DIDNíT? NO. SO SHUT UP.

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He took a demilitarized, 0 pride, economic downfall nation into a world superpower in 15 years after WWI.


Besides the war, he was one of the greatest leaders in history for his own people.

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Stalin > Hitler.



Stalin fucked up socially, politically, economically, and he was shocked like a mental case pussy for 10 days straight when Hitler attacked. HE < SHIT.

Fucking commie bullshit again.
I would like to see you move to live there at the time, or Cuba now for all your pro-commie bullshit.




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He took a demilitarized, 0 pride, economic downfall nation into a world superpower in 15 years after WWI.


Besides the war, he was one of the greatest leaders in history for his own people.





Besides being delusional,* deciding mass extermination was the best way to go*, and starting world war two that set Germany back atleast 50 years* and precluded them from any chance at superpower status* he was one of the greatest leaders in history for his own people.



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He took a demilitarized, 0 pride, economic downfall nation into a world superpower in 15 years after WWI.


Besides the war, he was one of the greatest leaders in history for his own people.





Besides being delusional,* deciding mass extermination was the best way to go*, and starting world war two that set Germany back atleast 50 years* and precluded them from any chance at superpower status* he was one of the greatest leaders in history for his own people.



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The war.............

Included all of that so thanks for wasting my time.

50 years? Germany's economy was made great by the allies.

Except for the fucking Soviet side.


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