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post Nov 27 2005, 05:49 AM
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http://nineoneone.nl/Media/documentaries/9...documentary.wmv

Anyone who reads this topic I highly suggest to download and watch this video. It will change everything you thought about 9/11. The video is about an hour long but it gos into great detail about 9/11. Take my word on it its a great video. Not like good like funny but very seriouse and almost scary.

It's kinda hard to descrip so just watch it for your self.


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post Nov 27 2005, 05:39 PM
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Uh-huh. So the North Tower was a second faster? And I guess the fact that after about halfway down the dust and debries blocking our view of anything that happened after that is nothing?

Bombs don't make things fall faster, they just throw them but gravity is still what brings it down.

And besides that when each floor hit the one below that added more weight each time to crush the one below that. AKA more force to counteract resistence.

Besides that how often have people timed how long it takes an office tower to fall in on itself?

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Also, like I said before, how do you think they managed to plant explosives in key ares of 3 major office buildings without anybody seeing anything at all in the middle of downtown Manhattan?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9-11_domestic...e_Center_towers
As far as the speed, a consensus has yet to be reached as to the exact duration of the fall. The most widely used number is at 10 seconds. Objects thrown away from the building are photographically depicted falling only slightly faster than the actual building, suggesting the towers fell at free fall speeds.


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post Nov 27 2005, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(OptimumPx @ Nov 27 2005, 08:07 PM) [snapback]1009820[/snapback]

Uh-huh. So the North Tower was a second faster? And I guess the fact that after about halfway down the dust and debries blocking our view of anything that happened after that is nothing?

Even if it came down in 10 seconds, it doesn't make sense because the resistence of 100+ floors would slow down the speed of which the towers came down, not accelerate it.

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Bombs don't make things fall faster, they just throw them but gravity is still what brings it down.

When you throw a basketball of a roof, the basketball would reach the floor earlier than if you would simply drop the basketball, doesn't it? I hope you're not trying to say that if explosives brought down the towers, the speed of which it would've come down would not have been effected by this. Because that's absolutely ridiculous.

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And besides that when each floor hit the one below that added more weight each time to crush the one below that. AKA more force to counteract resistence.

Fair enough. But then again, 13 storey's collapsed each second. There is no doubt each floor added more weight to cursh the one below, thus the lower floors would've collapsed at a faster rate than that of the upper floors. Meaning, the lower floors would actually fell EVEN FASTER THAN 13 STOREYS PER SECOND. Look at the video's of the towers collapsing, there is not much diffirence in the speed the top floors came crashing down and the lower floor crashing down - it came down at a pretty consistent rate.

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Besides that how often have people timed how long it takes an office tower to fall in on itself?

Never. But people have timed how long office towers have been on fire and how many came down due to this. Apart from the Twin Towers, and WTC7, no office towers have collapsed due to fire, and towers OLDER than the WTCs have survived WORSE fires which raged for WAY LONGER, and DIDNT came down.

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Also, like I said before, how do you think they managed to plant explosives in key ares of 3 major office buildings without anybody seeing anything at all in the middle of downtown Manhattan?

Watch the video.

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Also from Wikipedia.org:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9-11_domestic...e_Center_towers
As far as the speed, a consensus has yet to be reached as to the exact duration of the fall. The most widely used number is at 10 seconds. Objects thrown away from the building are photographically depicted falling only slightly faster than the actual building, suggesting the towers fell at free fall speeds.


Yes, free fall speeds. How? How can 110 storeys of concrete and massive steel collums come down at free fal without any resistance whatsoever?

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- JasOnZx   Loose Change   Nov 27 2005, 05:49 AM
- - Mattay   I just watched the entire movie. It has changed a...   Nov 27 2005, 02:33 PM
- - OptimumPx   I hate conspiracy theories. QUOTEhttp://www.sno...   Nov 27 2005, 04:25 PM
- - CaldMagi   Riddle me this OPX. According to the "Law of...   Nov 27 2005, 05:31 PM
- - OptimumPx   Uh-huh. So the North Tower was a second faster? ...   Nov 27 2005, 05:39 PM
|- - CaldMagi   QUOTE(OptimumPx @ Nov 27 2005, 08:07 PM) ...   Nov 27 2005, 06:40 PM
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|- - OptimumPx   QUOTE(CaldMagi @ Nov 28 2005, 06:12 AM) 1...   Nov 28 2005, 05:55 PM
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|- - N.T.C   QUOTE(mello_yello @ Nov 28 2005, 05:07 PM...   Dec 7 2005, 06:37 AM
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- - mello_yello   Too late >_>   Nov 28 2005, 05:25 PM
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|- - CaldMagi   QUOTE(OptimumPx @ Nov 29 2005, 04:55 PM) ...   Nov 29 2005, 02:52 PM
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