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Which of the following do you believe the most?
Which of the following do you believe the most?
A-People are born good. [ 3 ] ** [8.82%]
B-People are born evil. [ 3 ] ** [8.82%]
C-People are born stupid/ignorant. [ 4 ] ** [11.76%]
D-People are born neutral, but can be easily swayed for the most part. [ 13 ] ** [38.24%]
E- C and D [ 11 ] ** [32.35%]
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post May 9 2005, 03:24 PM
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When you think about it, it's stupid, it's your genes, it's your parents, your friends, the city or town that you're raised in, I doubt it'd be possible to create the same person twice, even if you cloned him and dropped him in the same place. He'd make different friends, different choices...if you cloned me and dropped me in the same place, sent me to the same school moved house to the same house and generally tried to simulate my life I'd still be a different person. To say people are born the same is an underestimation of human nature.


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post May 9 2005, 04:08 PM
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^I agree.. the way your brought up definitely has an influence on the way you turn out but it isn't solely responsible.
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post May 9 2005, 10:25 PM
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I believe, as a Muslim, that all people have already submitted themselves to God, so they are born good. But they are also very easily swayed because their parents may be bad and that will turn their kids out bad too.
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post May 10 2005, 06:14 AM
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People are born stupid and ignorant or else school and education of any sort would be irrelevant.
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post May 10 2005, 01:30 PM
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^ Why?

That doesn't make much sense.


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post May 10 2005, 10:20 PM
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Define stupid. Ignorant means they don't know things, stupid suggests they're idiots.


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post May 12 2005, 07:48 AM
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I believe everyone is born stupid because you have to be educated


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post May 13 2005, 07:33 AM
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Humans are born with basic instincts and learn a lot of things on their own.. all humans aren't born stupid just ignorant as other people have said.
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post May 13 2005, 07:37 AM
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i find that people are born neutral, you never know what kind of person they will become.


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post May 13 2005, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ May 8 2005, 08:14 AM)
Stupid and Ignorant, are not the same thing.. so grouping them is .. useless.
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They're not mutually exclusive either; you can be both ignorant and stupid. In fact, I'd say ignorance usually (not always) stems from lack of intelligence.

I voted C and D, but I think naive would be a better term than stupid. Obviously people are not born geniuses but this implies lack of experience, not intelligence. People are born neutral, they can be swayed towards either good or evil by outside influences just as people can better themselves or stagnate depending on the stimulus they recieve or lack thereof.


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post May 13 2005, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(Edgecrusher @ May 13 2005, 10:04 AM)
QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ May 8 2005, 08:14 AM)
Stupid and Ignorant, are not the same thing.. so grouping them is .. useless.
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They're not mutually exclusive either; you can be both ignorant and stupid. In fact, I'd say ignorance usually (not always) stems from lack of intelligence.
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Ignorant means not knowing something so how can that usually mean lack of intelligence.. for example a tribe living in the Amazon jungle are completely ignorant of the outside world.. that's not because they're unintelligent, it's because they have never seen it.

I spose there a different types of ignorance for example if someone genuinely believes all French women don't take showers then that could be called stupid ignorant.
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post May 13 2005, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE(Austin @ May 13 2005, 10:11 AM)
QUOTE(Edgecrusher @ May 13 2005, 10:04 AM)
QUOTE(Qdeathstar @ May 8 2005, 08:14 AM)
Stupid and Ignorant, are not the same thing.. so grouping them is .. useless.
[right][snapback]601621[/snapback][/right]

They're not mutually exclusive either; you can be both ignorant and stupid. In fact, I'd say ignorance usually (not always) stems from lack of intelligence.
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Ignorant means not knowing something so how can that usually mean lack of intelligence.. for example a tribe living in the Amazon jungle are completely ignorant of the outside world.. that's not because they're unintelligent, it's because they have never seen it.

I spose there a different types of ignorance for example if someone genuinely believes all French women don't take showers then that could be called stupid ignorant.
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I said stems from, and I didn't say always. Naive is a better word than ignorant, naivety never stems from stupidity, you can argue that ignorance does though because ignorance can be entirely voluntary.


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