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post Apr 7 2006, 03:53 PM
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So they've found a true transitional animal between fish and animals. Not that it's the first, but it's the best proof of a movement between water and land cerca 375million BC. It had working wrists, a movable neck, and limbs with the ability to move clumsily over land, mostly to escape less evolved predators. It would have been capable of doing a "push up" with it's transitional limbs, because of it's shoulders and elbows. Needless to say, fish do not have shoulders, elbows, wrists, the ability to breathe using LUNGS, gills akin to ears shape-wise, eyes on top of their heads rather than at the side. It also had a snout which also seems to predate crocodiles'. In all likelihood, the proto-limbs were used to crawl along shallow streams, venturing onto land or into deep waters the need arised.

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post Apr 7 2006, 07:49 PM
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Pretty cool isn't it?

Kinda shows that the evidence is out there. When will the fundamentalist christians stop talking rubbish and look at the REAL proof of what has happened in Earth's history?!?!

They also found a rat type animal this week that they thought went extinct millions of years ago and is pretty much a living fossil. Apparently more common than you might think as well.
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post Apr 7 2006, 11:21 PM
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That's great. Now they can try and find the missing link between primates and humans.


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post Apr 7 2006, 11:31 PM
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Wow, that's a strong and non-egocentric point.


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QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Apr 7 2006, 09:18 PM) [snapback]1129268[/snapback]

That's great. Now they can try and find the missing link between primates and humans.

Don't need to look for one, we already have it. sleep.gif

Chimpanzee and Human DVD are 95% the same. smile.gif


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post Apr 8 2006, 02:49 AM
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QUOTE(OptimumPx @ Apr 7 2006, 11:40 PM) [snapback]1129302[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Apr 7 2006, 09:18 PM) [snapback]1129268[/snapback]

That's great. Now they can try and find the missing link between primates and humans.

Don't need to look for one, we already have it. sleep.gif

Chimpanzee and Human DVD are 95% the same. smile.gif


And you need the missing link between primates and humans to prove it 100%. So there ya go.


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post Apr 8 2006, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(Lord Steve0 @ Apr 7 2006, 02:46 PM) [snapback]1129210[/snapback]

Pretty cool isn't it?

Kinda shows that the evidence is out there. When will the fundamentalist christians stop talking rubbish and look at the REAL proof of what has happened in Earth's history?!?!

They also found a rat type animal this week that they thought went extinct millions of years ago and is pretty much a living fossil. Apparently more common than you might think as well.

Maybe because there's no actual proof that this thing evolved? Animals are born certain ways without evolving from a different animal. And if evolution is true what was the first animal and what did it evolve from?


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post Apr 8 2006, 02:53 PM
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im up for another scrap with fido about evolution.

@ verruckt- according to my source below the building blocks for DNA were made 4.1 billion years ago, after the planet was cool enough for water to condense. animals are thought to have evolved 0.7 billion years ago from colonies of single celled organisms. between then and 4.1 bya bacteria evolved. then photosynthesis was used by these bacteria, which made more oxygen. so they evolved respiration. after this the first organisms to have a nucleus evolved. plants evolved way after life in the sea had evolved into fish.

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post Apr 8 2006, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Apr 8 2006, 05:46 AM) [snapback]1129316[/snapback]

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QUOTE(Fido 14 @ Apr 7 2006, 09:18 PM) [snapback]1129268[/snapback]

That's great. Now they can try and find the missing link between primates and humans.

Don't need to look for one, we already have it. sleep.gif

Chimpanzee and Human DVD are 95% the same. smile.gif


And you need the missing link between primates and humans to prove it 100%. So there ya go.


dont they already have primitive human skeletons that are not the same as us, but not the same as apes. ... pretty much a missing link i think...


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post Apr 8 2006, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(verruckt @ Apr 8 2006, 09:02 AM) [snapback]1129605[/snapback]

QUOTE(Lord Steve0 @ Apr 7 2006, 02:46 PM) [snapback]1129210[/snapback]

Pretty cool isn't it?

Kinda shows that the evidence is out there. When will the fundamentalist christians stop talking rubbish and look at the REAL proof of what has happened in Earth's history?!?!

They also found a rat type animal this week that they thought went extinct millions of years ago and is pretty much a living fossil. Apparently more common than you might think as well.

Maybe because there's no actual proof that this thing evolved? Animals are born certain ways without evolving from a different animal. And if evolution is true what was the first animal and what did it evolve from?

Exactly. That's the question they stay away from.


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QUOTE(Caliguy @ Apr 8 2006, 02:33 PM) [snapback]1129729[/snapback]

QUOTE(verruckt @ Apr 8 2006, 09:02 AM) [snapback]1129605[/snapback]

QUOTE(Lord Steve0 @ Apr 7 2006, 02:46 PM) [snapback]1129210[/snapback]

Pretty cool isn't it?

Kinda shows that the evidence is out there. When will the fundamentalist christians stop talking rubbish and look at the REAL proof of what has happened in Earth's history?!?!

They also found a rat type animal this week that they thought went extinct millions of years ago and is pretty much a living fossil. Apparently more common than you might think as well.

Maybe because there's no actual proof that this thing evolved? Animals are born certain ways without evolving from a different animal. And if evolution is true what was the first animal and what did it evolve from?

Exactly. That's the question they stay away from.

I can't bring myself to believe this, but they claim they evolved from bacteria O.o...click gingergenius' link to the history of the world, and you'll get evolution's theoretical path, complete with spectacular holes and lack of explanations for things that don't make much sense...


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post Apr 8 2006, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(verruckt @ Apr 8 2006, 05:02 PM) [snapback]1129605[/snapback]

Maybe because there's no actual proof that this thing evolved? Animals are born certain ways without evolving from a different animal. And if evolution is true what was the first animal and what did it evolve from?
From Wikipedia's article on Abiogenesis (The non-biological origins (of biota))

"Or so, on theoretical principles, it would seem. [that it is impossible to create complexity out of entropy, as stated in the second law of thermodynamics] But both biological theory and experimental evidence soon suggested otherwise. First the theory: In 1936 Aleksandr Ivanovich Oparin, in his "The Origin of Life on Earth", demonstrated that organic molecules could be created in an oxygen-less atmosphere, through the action of sunlight. These molecules, he suggested, combine in ever-more complex fashion until they are dissolved into a coacervate droplet. These droplets could then "grow" by fusion with other droplets, "reproduce" through fission into daughter droplets, and so have a primitive metabolism in which those factors which promote "cell integrity" survive, and those that don't become extinct. Around the same time J.B.S Haldane suggested that the earth's pre-biotic oceans - very different from their modern counterparts - would have formed a "hot dilute soup" in which organic compounds, the building blocks of life, could have formed. In 1953, taking their cue from Oparin and Haldane, the chemists Stanley L. Miller and Harold C. Urey carried out an experiment on the "primeval soup". Within two weeks organic amino acids, the basic building blocks of life, had formed. The second law [of thermodynamics] had been breached."

Invariably, when left in sunlight, amino acids eventually form into Ribonucleic Acid, or RNA. In the young earth, RNA floated over and under the sea, and often joined. More often than not they broke apart, but certain combinations had catalytic effects. The more they joined the better they survived instead of breaking down into amino acids again. This made for a kind of primitive natural selection. Water can break down RNA into Deoxyribonucleic Acid (DNA) and more complex proteins. These attract Carbohydrates and lipids, over time. Obviously, the ones that don't complexify. DNA, proteins and carbohydrates are the molecular makeup of all living things on earth.

Can't wait for you guys to ignore this or call RNA origin "stupid".
QUOTE(Caliguy @ Apr 8 2006, 09:33 PM) [snapback]1129729[/snapback]

QUOTE(verruckt @ Apr 8 2006, 09:02 AM) [snapback]1129605[/snapback]

QUOTE(Lord Steve0 @ Apr 7 2006, 02:46 PM) [snapback]1129210[/snapback]

Pretty cool isn't it?

Kinda shows that the evidence is out there. When will the fundamentalist christians stop talking rubbish and look at the REAL proof of what has happened in Earth's history?!?!

They also found a rat type animal this week that they thought went extinct millions of years ago and is pretty much a living fossil. Apparently more common than you might think as well.

Maybe because there's no actual proof that this thing evolved? Animals are born certain ways without evolving from a different animal. And if evolution is true what was the first animal and what did it evolve from?

Exactly. That's the question they stay away from.
So you just skipped gingergenius' post? Oh well, mine's better.

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For anyone who's not too stubborn, and just doesn't believe in evolution because they don't see how it can happen, try here.

For the sake of mankind, tell me you all believe in microevolution - ie small scale evolution, often a carried mutation over a dominant gene. If not, anyone with an interest in science might as well leave the topic, seeing as there's not going to be any in here.

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If you want living monkey men fido, it's not happening. That's not how things work. But Homo erectus and it's as yet unnamed Ethiopian transitional form are closer to us than chimpanzees.

And I think it's 97.2% OPx v_v


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post Apr 8 2006, 10:30 PM
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If you want living monkey men fido, it's not happening. That's not how things work. But Homo erectus and it's as yet unnamed Ethiopian transitional form are closer to us than chimpanzees.

And I think it's 97.2% OPx v_v


But you need to find the remains of the missing link between primates and humans in order to prove we evolved from primates. I didn't even attack anything in this thread. All I said is that it was great news and now all they have to do is find the missing link between primates and humans. After all, it is what's needed to prove the evolution between primates and humans 100%.

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Read up on homo erectus and see if that does anthing for you.

Homo heidelbergensis is a transition between homo erectus and chimpanzees.

The unnamed Ethiopian Homo-genus is a transition between homo erectus and homo sapiens.

So there are 3 transitions between chimps and humands.

Chimpanzee ---> Homo Heidelbergensis ----> Homo erectus ---> Ethiopian specimen ---> Homo Sapiens.


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QUOTE(mello_yello @ Apr 8 2006, 09:02 PM) [snapback]1129881[/snapback]

Read up on homo erectus and see if that does anthing for you.

Homo heidelbergensis is a transition between homo erectus and chimpanzees.

The unnamed Ethiopian Homo-genus is a transition between homo erectus and homo sapiens.

So there are 3 transitions between chimps and humands.

Chimpanzee ---> Homo Heidelbergensis ----> Homo erectus ---> Ethiopian specimen ---> Homo Sapiens.


You do realize that you need to find the remains of the missing link between primates and humans so you can prove our evolution to be correct. Its still called a THEORY for a reason, you know? Its not a fact or a law. Once they find the remains of the missing link between primates and humans, then they can call it fact or law.


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No they can't, that's a tiny missing link. Miniscule, pointless in the grander scale of things. There are more important ones.

I still don't see why those three transitional forms don't count in your book, though.


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Hey listen, what's your problem? I'm sure if they can find the missing link between sea and land then they can find the missing link between primates and humans? Is that so much to ask for? Do you not have enough faith in your scientists?


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QUOTE(mello_yello @ Apr 8 2006, 07:54 PM) [snapback]1129854[/snapback]

And I think it's 97.2% OPx v_v

Thats what I thought too, but I looked it up, and a recent science article had dropped it down to 95% are a full review of the DNA
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Hey listen, what's your problem? I'm sure if they can find the missing link between sea and land then they can find the missing link between primates and humans? Is that so much to ask for? Do you not have enough faith in your scientists?

They have to hunt it down, and dig it up. You can't just snap your fingers and have all the answers. sleep.gif


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They have to hunt it down, and dig it up. You can't just snap your fingers and have all the answers.


Well of course. But the way mello yello is reacting is as if they could never find the missing link between primates and humans.


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Or I'm repeating over and over that they've found 3 transitional forms. What are they looking for if not that?


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