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post Oct 4 2010, 05:43 PM
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Seeing as you have no idea about Mary Jane I don't see why you think fines should be increased.

Rearrange your post and you answer your own question.

(you think fines should be increased)[because](you have no idea about Mary Jane)

Are you fucking stoned?

Not right now. What's that have to do with what I said?


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post Oct 4 2010, 11:02 PM
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Schwarzenegger said after signing Senate Bill 1449 that he does not support decriminalization of marijuana, but the law would save the state courts money.

"In this time of drastic budget cuts, prosecutors, defense attorneys, law enforcement and the courts cannot afford to expend limited resources prosecuting a crime that carries the same punishment as a traffic ticket," the governor said in a statement.


So it's only to save state courts money. Maybe they should disband the court system alltogether and save even more money. doh (12).gif

The new law is only for one ounce or less. How many grams is an ounce? Is one ounce enough for one joint?

The fine ought to be much more than $ 100, maybe 500 or 1000. sleep.gif

LOL at the "Is one ounce enough for one joint?"

Seeing as you have no idea about Mary Jane I don't see why you think fines should be increased.

I had no idea about ounces.




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why should we pay a bigger fine for smoking pot just because you dont like it??

I have not said anything about not liking pot. I don't like the side effects of pot smoking. It's more to it than getting high and feeling good. I believe the negative sides outweighs the positive ones.


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also it would be stupid to disband the courts altogether, whats the point of that?

lol you didn't see the irony in that?




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The new law is only for one ounce or less. How many grams is an ounce? Is one ounce enough for one joint?



28 grams to an ounce.

No, an ounce is about 27.5 grams too heavy for a normal joint.

Typical that they reduce the fine after I move out of California.

Now it's going to be a lot better for young people. Under an oz is like a ticket, only.

Hopefully California will become the first state to completely legalize, but probably not any time soon.

Still, it is a small victory for a harmless substance.

Thanks §ynch for the info on ounces. I don't believe it's right to legalize it, but I don't live in California so they can decide whatever they want. What about a compromise; legalize pot but make a mandatory death penalty for selling or using harder drugs (no joke). Drug addicts commits so much crime that it would be a good riddance.




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I mean you can make a blunt with an ounce of weed if you're a fan of Cheech & Chong. But the layman usually uses 2.5 grams for a blunt. Demon has a point, though. Speeding tickets are way more expensive than $100.00, so the the price should be upped.

Am I insane or did Fido say something that's not rubbish?



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post Oct 4 2010, 11:15 PM
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I have not said anything about not liking pot. I don't like the side effects of pot smoking. It's more to it than getting high and feeling good. I believe the negative sides outweighs the positive ones.

What side effects? What negative side? Have you even heard of marijuana before today? What the fuck are you talking about?


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Am I insane or did Fido say something that's not rubbish?


Actually, I don't give a hoot if it's legalized or if people are harshly penalized for it, because at the end of the day the majority of frequenters of marijuana turn out to be wastes of life. But if the government of California wants to make possession equal to a speeding offense, they should at least raise the cost; even fines for littering are around $400.00.

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Actually, I don't give a hoot if it's legalized or if people are harshly penalized for it, because at the end of the day the majority of frequenters of marijuana turn out to be wastes of life. But if the government of California wants to make possession equal to a speeding offense, they should at least raise the cost; even fines for littering are around $400.00.

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QUOTE (demon @ Oct 4 2010, 04:02 PM) *
Thanks §ynch for the info on ounces. I don't believe it's right to legalize it, but I don't live in California so they can decide whatever they want. What about a compromise; legalize pot but make a mandatory death penalty for selling or using harder drugs (no joke). Drug addicts commits so much crime that it would be a good riddance.


Weed is a non-addictive, mellow scene.

Crimes committed for need of money are usually based on hard drug addiction.
This is such as coke, crack, the various speeds, or heroin, definitely not weed.
Real drug sales are a business, and a violent one. Weed sales are a mellow one.

There is rarely crimes committed for a mellow scene for weed.

I think it should be legalized, globally. If any of you have ever visited Amsterdam,
it is a very cool experience to witness. House wives roll up with their strollers,
cop their buzz, and go on about their day, shopping and such. With their babies.
It is a normal, regular, routine. It is not just stoner dudes. It is everyone.
Getting on with their day.

There is nothing wrong with the herb. It is always 4:20, somewhere......


I am not concerned with laws, busting addicts of crack, cops, or any of that negative scene man.

I just think weed should be legal, globally.

Not just Medical Marijuana, but marijuana in general.

There is nothing wrong with it. It is not a big deal.
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post Oct 5 2010, 01:53 AM
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It is always 4:20, somewhere......

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I have not said anything about not liking pot. I don't like the side effects of pot smoking. It's more to it than getting high and feeling good. I believe the negative sides outweighs the positive ones.

What side effects? What negative side? Have you even heard of marijuana before today? What the fuck are you talking about?

I would expect someone like you to know at least some side effects.



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Try to stay on topic guys. Else this is asylum bound. sleep.gif



and "decriminalized" would mean it's legal, not they reduced the offense.


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post Oct 5 2010, 02:19 AM
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Hunger and drowsiness. Loss of long-term memory and low sperm count are also potential effects, but by the time memory loss sets in you'll be old enough to forget everything anyway, and low sperm count is actually a plus because children are an abomination.

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post Oct 5 2010, 02:20 AM
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QUOTE (demon @ Oct 4 2010, 04:02 PM) *
Thanks §ynch for the info on ounces. I don't believe it's right to legalize it, but I don't live in California so they can decide whatever they want. What about a compromise; legalize pot but make a mandatory death penalty for selling or using harder drugs (no joke). Drug addicts commits so much crime that it would be a good riddance.


Weed is a non-addictive, mellow scene.

Crimes committed for need of money are usually based on hard drug addiction.
This is such as coke, crack, the various speeds, or heroin, definitely not weed.
Real drug sales are a business, and a violent one. Weed sales are a mellow one.

That's why I want capital punishment for hard drug crimes, not for pot. Don't get me wrong, I'm not fanatically against pot, I just don't see how legalizing it is justified. Make it legal for medical use only (it might be legal for medical use somewhere, but not here.)



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are we not on topic? How can we discuss decriminalizing without discussing the substance in question?

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post Oct 5 2010, 02:56 AM
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They go after dispensaries all the time, but they won't bother a customer.

If we get outright legalization in Cali, they'll probably separate it from the U.S. and let it drift out to sea, then Kurt Russel will have to go there and do some stuff that I don't know about because I had to go shit part of the way through the movie.


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topic is too long; i didn't read all of it... in other words, tl;dr...

the headline caught my attention though... while it may be decriminalized, it's still illegal to sell and distribute... which doesn't effect me at all since i am a buyer and one who would be issued a citation for carrying some... but the BIGGER news in all of this is, california got the ball rolling on the subject... they have been at the forefront of this issue for a couple years now and the fact that it's been decriminalized means the rest of the states may consider similar actions, especially if this in some way helps the california economy, the sole reason why ahhhhloooohhhllld pushed for it's decriminalization in the first place...

this is a HUGE step for the legalization of marijuana and quite frankly, a smart one... how much longer will this country continue to ignore the fact that everyone does it, it's not as bad as your teacher said it was, and it's something else the government can tax the hell out of?? by today's standards, marijuana isn't even close to the power it used to be... kids are taking all kinds of really bad man-made abominations out there... weed has been, and will forever be, a plant from god's green earth... not broken down and run through chemical baths and stuffed with a 1,000 different poisons...

it has one chemical... and that's THC...


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Oh, good one. The "you're on the internet so you must have no life" insult isn't moronic or unoriginal at all. You must, without a doubt, be a very important member of society, not at all a waste of the already barely valuable gift of life.

As is the case for everyone who takes issue with people who make them sad on the internet, you are one of two kinds of people:

You are exactly what you claim I am, and that is a lonely, pathetic basement dweller. You life is spent eating eight pounds of junk food per day, masturbating to anything you find online that's even remotely feminine, and wishing you had good looks and social skills. You continue to live with your mother until she dies of a combination of lung cancer and liver failure brought on by the chain-smoking and heavy drinking she used to cope with what a failure you are. Your mother mercifully dead and free of the living embodiment of failure she regretfully thrust from her loins, the bills start to pile up and you, unemployed and unable to pay these bills (of course), lose the house and everything in it. Somehow even more of a failure than you already were, you wander from place to place eating out of dumpsters and sleeping in your own filth until you finally die of AIDS, which you contracted from a diseased whore you scrounged up enough money to pay for, so you could finally lose your virginity while at the same time pretending that your mother was back in your life.

Or:

You are the type who was an athlete in high school, who was genetically doomed to be an idiot but managed to finish school and even get a college scholarship because you were so good at a worthless children's game. You went off to college with a suitcase full of polo shirts and condoms, the polo shirts, because you're a douche, and the condoms to prevent you from impregnating the dim-witted young college girls whom you could never touch without the aid of Rohypnol, a drug you refer to as "roofies" because you can neither spell or pronounce Rohypnol. You scrape by with borderline D's for the next four years, and leave the campus to go out into the real world where your realize you're not intelligent or talented enough to do anything of value with your life. Misery and minimum wage ensues for thirty years, then you blow your brains out, and your corpse, alone and forgotten, is not discovered until the smell of rotting flesh seeps under your door and your bodily fluids finally soak through the floor of your studio apartment and into the room below you. Your body is cremated, the ashes scraped into a garbage bin because there was no one in your life who valued you enough to pay for a casket, funeral, or burial plot.

You're undoubtedly one of the two, otherwise you would have better things to do than complain about the theme of a forum that doesn't care about anything you have to say.
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post Oct 5 2010, 11:30 PM
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But if we get outright legalization, to the point where it's sold like alcohol or cigarettes, I fully expect it to wind up being pumped full of chemicals like they do with tobacco.


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but if it's legal, i'll just grow my own... or know friends that grow their own and just get some homegrown stuff... that is, if growing is considered legal, which they might not let you do unless your a licensed pot grower... but that would be just bullshit politics anyways and everyone would probably fight it...


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Oh, good one. The "you're on the internet so you must have no life" insult isn't moronic or unoriginal at all. You must, without a doubt, be a very important member of society, not at all a waste of the already barely valuable gift of life.

As is the case for everyone who takes issue with people who make them sad on the internet, you are one of two kinds of people:

You are exactly what you claim I am, and that is a lonely, pathetic basement dweller. You life is spent eating eight pounds of junk food per day, masturbating to anything you find online that's even remotely feminine, and wishing you had good looks and social skills. You continue to live with your mother until she dies of a combination of lung cancer and liver failure brought on by the chain-smoking and heavy drinking she used to cope with what a failure you are. Your mother mercifully dead and free of the living embodiment of failure she regretfully thrust from her loins, the bills start to pile up and you, unemployed and unable to pay these bills (of course), lose the house and everything in it. Somehow even more of a failure than you already were, you wander from place to place eating out of dumpsters and sleeping in your own filth until you finally die of AIDS, which you contracted from a diseased whore you scrounged up enough money to pay for, so you could finally lose your virginity while at the same time pretending that your mother was back in your life.

Or:

You are the type who was an athlete in high school, who was genetically doomed to be an idiot but managed to finish school and even get a college scholarship because you were so good at a worthless children's game. You went off to college with a suitcase full of polo shirts and condoms, the polo shirts, because you're a douche, and the condoms to prevent you from impregnating the dim-witted young college girls whom you could never touch without the aid of Rohypnol, a drug you refer to as "roofies" because you can neither spell or pronounce Rohypnol. You scrape by with borderline D's for the next four years, and leave the campus to go out into the real world where your realize you're not intelligent or talented enough to do anything of value with your life. Misery and minimum wage ensues for thirty years, then you blow your brains out, and your corpse, alone and forgotten, is not discovered until the smell of rotting flesh seeps under your door and your bodily fluids finally soak through the floor of your studio apartment and into the room below you. Your body is cremated, the ashes scraped into a garbage bin because there was no one in your life who valued you enough to pay for a casket, funeral, or burial plot.

You're undoubtedly one of the two, otherwise you would have better things to do than complain about the theme of a forum that doesn't care about anything you have to say.
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weed has been, and will forever be, a plant from god's green earth... not broken down and run through chemical baths and stuffed with a 1,000 different poisons...

it has one chemical... and that's THC...

That one chemical - tetrahydrocannabinol - can cause neurological and psychoactive effects and some users go insane. But then some few users of alcohol go insane too...



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QUOTE (bOnEs @ Oct 6 2010, 01:22 AM) *
weed has been, and will forever be, a plant from god's green earth... not broken down and run through chemical baths and stuffed with a 1,000 different poisons...

it has one chemical... and that's THC...

That one chemical - tetrahydrocannabinol - can cause neurological and psychoactive effects and some users go insane. But then some few users of alcohol go insane too...

*sigh*

Show me the statistics for the number of users who have gone insane.


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QUOTE (demon @ Oct 5 2010, 07:57 PM) *
That one chemical - tetrahydrocannabinol - can cause neurological and psychoactive effects and some users go insane.

But then some few users of alcohol go insane too...
There are more highway deaths due to alcohol than you can imagine.
More rapes, more spousal abuse or murders, more over doses. More stupidity.
Alcohol is addictive, there are people called alcoholics. It is real.

I recently saw Lewis Black perform live, and he was hilarious, they guy always is.

When it came to wanting his generation to being remembered for something,
he stated that it should be the legalization of weed. Something real. (He is 62)


After all, after a show, which car would you rather get in to drive you home:

1) The car with the driver who had been drinking.

or

2) The car with the driver who had been smoking.



Exactly. No one is going to get in the car with the driver who has been drinking.


There are no statistics for the number of weed users who have gone insane.
There are graveyards full of people who have killed themselves or others on alcohol.





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QUOTE (Massacre @ Sep 18 2009, 09:59 PM) *
Apparently, Synch does acid rather than smoking weed...
QUOTE (bOnEs @ Oct 6 2009, 12:05 PM) *
synch is a fucking walking fallout 3 wikipedia lol...
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