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post Feb 5 2010, 02:33 AM
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I was going to say that robot looks more like something from Borderlands.


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The reason is that when heartless says something stupid, he really means it and believes it.

“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

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post Feb 5 2010, 02:35 AM
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Was there something like it in the other Fallout games? It obviously wasn't in Fallout 3, but I've never played the others. Might have to pick up the Fallout Trilogy this weekend...


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post Feb 5 2010, 02:39 AM
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Most of the Robots from the first three games all adhered to the concepts of 50s' thinking.


Even in 3 they looked more like Lost in Space.

That wheely looking thing is the first new robot, I think.

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The reason is that when heartless says something stupid, he really means it and believes it.

“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

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I'll need to check again later. I'm not able to watch the trailer at the moment.


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QUOTE (Massacre @ Feb 4 2010, 09:32 PM) *
Anyone else slightly unsettled by the fact that it looks more like a modern version of Fallout 1 + 2's graphics than Fallout 3's? A little more cartoony? I mean, of course I'll play it anyway, but...

the trailer was CGI video... i mean, the graphics aren't going to look that good laugh.gif, or quite like that i don't think... but, that robot sure looked different... it kind of reminds me of some sort of scavenger robot... to me, it looks like he's sifting through sand, looking for something... the body just happens to be there... in a damn cemetery...

the guy at the end though, with "A7" on the back of his jacket, and a 7 on the helmet... what's that all about??

and seeing the vegas skyline all lit up sure gave off that sense of more modernization than the capitol wasteland... from what i read about people talking at the bethesda forums, there's mention of vegas in the older fallout games... and it's mentioned as being some city that's fully functional... totally rebuilt... so, there's going to be some interesting changes to the game by actually running into fully lit up city streets with people or creatures... but, i'm sure there's going to be plenty of other things out there in the vast mojave wasteland...

wait till synch see this shit!! biggrin.gif...

EDIT: here's IGN's "rewind" video... they make an interesting remark about the cowboy that sounds quite plausible, heartless... he could end up being the new pipboy icon for new vegas... he does flash from evil to good in the video...

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1434197...spc_020410.html

they made no mention of the red glow though dry.gif...

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QUOTE (Massacre @ Mar 15 2011, 01:24 AM) *
Oh, good one. The "you're on the internet so you must have no life" insult isn't moronic or unoriginal at all. You must, without a doubt, be a very important member of society, not at all a waste of the already barely valuable gift of life.

As is the case for everyone who takes issue with people who make them sad on the internet, you are one of two kinds of people:

You are exactly what you claim I am, and that is a lonely, pathetic basement dweller. You life is spent eating eight pounds of junk food per day, masturbating to anything you find online that's even remotely feminine, and wishing you had good looks and social skills. You continue to live with your mother until she dies of a combination of lung cancer and liver failure brought on by the chain-smoking and heavy drinking she used to cope with what a failure you are. Your mother mercifully dead and free of the living embodiment of failure she regretfully thrust from her loins, the bills start to pile up and you, unemployed and unable to pay these bills (of course), lose the house and everything in it. Somehow even more of a failure than you already were, you wander from place to place eating out of dumpsters and sleeping in your own filth until you finally die of AIDS, which you contracted from a diseased whore you scrounged up enough money to pay for, so you could finally lose your virginity while at the same time pretending that your mother was back in your life.

Or:

You are the type who was an athlete in high school, who was genetically doomed to be an idiot but managed to finish school and even get a college scholarship because you were so good at a worthless children's game. You went off to college with a suitcase full of polo shirts and condoms, the polo shirts, because you're a douche, and the condoms to prevent you from impregnating the dim-witted young college girls whom you could never touch without the aid of Rohypnol, a drug you refer to as "roofies" because you can neither spell or pronounce Rohypnol. You scrape by with borderline D's for the next four years, and leave the campus to go out into the real world where your realize you're not intelligent or talented enough to do anything of value with your life. Misery and minimum wage ensues for thirty years, then you blow your brains out, and your corpse, alone and forgotten, is not discovered until the smell of rotting flesh seeps under your door and your bodily fluids finally soak through the floor of your studio apartment and into the room below you. Your body is cremated, the ashes scraped into a garbage bin because there was no one in your life who valued you enough to pay for a casket, funeral, or burial plot.

You're undoubtedly one of the two, otherwise you would have better things to do than complain about the theme of a forum that doesn't care about anything you have to say.
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post Feb 5 2010, 05:27 AM
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QUOTE (bOnEs @ Feb 4 2010, 10:37 PM) *
QUOTE (Massacre @ Feb 4 2010, 09:32 PM) *
Anyone else slightly unsettled by the fact that it looks more like a modern version of Fallout 1 + 2's graphics than Fallout 3's? A little more cartoony? I mean, of course I'll play it anyway, but...

the trailer was CGI video... i mean, the graphics aren't going to look that good laugh.gif, or quite like that i don't think... but, that robot sure looked different... it kind of reminds me of some sort of scavenger robot... to me, it looks like he's sifting through sand, looking for something... the body just happens to be there... in a damn cemetery...

the guy at the end though, with "A7" on the back of his jacket, and a 7 on the helmet... what's that all about??

and seeing the vegas skyline all lit up sure gave off that sense of more modernization than the capitol wasteland... from what i read about people talking at the bethesda forums, there's mention of vegas in the older fallout games... and it's mentioned as being some city that's fully functional... totally rebuilt... so, there's going to be some interesting changes to the game by actually running into fully lit up city streets with people or creatures... but, i'm sure there's going to be plenty of other things out there in the vast mojave wasteland...

wait till synch see this shit!! biggrin.gif...

EDIT: here's IGN's "rewind" video... they make an interesting remark about the cowboy that sounds quite plausible, heartless... he could end up being the new pipboy icon for new vegas... he does flash from evil to good in the video...

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1434197...spc_020410.html

they made no mention of the red glow though dry.gif...


IF the cowboy is the new pip-boy character, then those two images represent opposite sides of the Karma wheel.

Remember, Vault 8 is Vault City. Ergo, that guy is pretty much 99.9% from Vault 7. (Even more so because it has never been mentioned, despite 6 and 8 being developed thoroughly) Remember that Vault 13 was the basis of Fallout 1; it'll be interesting to return and see what's come of the old haunts. I think that New Vegas will be a face lifted version of the original game.

Further, that is the first new robot since the original. Fact.

I'm totally off my fucking head right here, but what if that red glow is coming from Kaibab National Forest?



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The reason is that when heartless says something stupid, he really means it and believes it.

“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

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Fallout 3 takes place at a different time than the first few Fallout games, a hundred plus years later (First game was 2161 , Fallout 3 was 2277). Ah Heartless mentioned, there will probably be the opportunity to revisit old stomping grounds from the first two games, although there is no mention WHEN New Vegas is set in... there could be vast improvements, with plenty of references to the past games.

I think I'll be picking up Fallout 1 & 2 soon too.

I'm also for the cowboy over the Vault Boy, but I'm pretty sure Vault Boy was in the first two games as well. I don't see how they could omit him and keep it canon. If Vault-Tec is involved, Vault Boy should be there.

Addedum: Looking over the Fallout wiki:
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Original Vault Boy concept art

The character was originally designed by Leonard Boyarsky, based partly on Uncle Moneybags from the Monopoly board game[4], and then drawn for Fallout by George Almond for the first few cards and then by Tramell Ray Isaac, who finalized the look of the character as we know him today. Brian Menze is responsible for all new Vault Boy images in Fallout 2 and Fallout: New Vegas. The Fallout 3 images of Vault Boy were drawn by Natalia Smirnova.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vault_Boy

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Well, if the leak can be trusted, which it can't, then the game should start pretty shortly after the war. Which would incidentally put it at the same time as the first game.


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QUOTE (Geert Wilders @ Feb 5 2010, 09:49 AM) *
Well, if the leak can be trusted, which it can't, then the game should start pretty shortly after the war. Which would incidentally put it at the same time as the first game.

What leak?
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http://hellforge.gameriot.com/blogs/Hellfo...llout-New-Vegas


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The reason is that when heartless says something stupid, he really means it and believes it.

“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

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that leak probably can't be trusted but, that link also mentions that he emerges from the cave after a long period of time... and my guess would have to be at least 200 years... maybe he was trapped in there when the bombs fell, and after an explosion opened the cave again, he emerged some 200 years after the fact... who knows...

well, with the rumors of you being able to choose from like 6 different background stories, i am sure the vault boy makes his appearance on the vault-dwellers pipboy... for all others, the cowboy is probably considered to be the mojave wasteland mascot...

i like the idea of stomping around in the old settlements... but, i don't know if i have the time or if i feel like playing fallout 1, 2, and tactics, just to know the stories of the settlements... but, i did do some reading... here's what i've discovered so far...

i read that vault 13 needed a new water chip and you were tasked with finding a new one from vault 15... and there was a town founded in between the two, shady sands or something... once you get the chip and fight the super mutant leader, you take the chip back home and save the vault... but, they kick you out anyways due to high exposure to the elements... you venture off and start your own town called, navarro??...

in fallout 2, you play as the chosen one... a descendant from the original vault 13 savior... but, i haven't researched this story much yet... i'm off to do that here shortly...

haven't bothered looking up tactics yet but, i did do a little research on the new california republic... wasn't it originally started by deserters of vault 13 and 15 looking to start democracy all over again?

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QUOTE (Massacre @ Mar 15 2011, 01:24 AM) *
Oh, good one. The "you're on the internet so you must have no life" insult isn't moronic or unoriginal at all. You must, without a doubt, be a very important member of society, not at all a waste of the already barely valuable gift of life.

As is the case for everyone who takes issue with people who make them sad on the internet, you are one of two kinds of people:

You are exactly what you claim I am, and that is a lonely, pathetic basement dweller. You life is spent eating eight pounds of junk food per day, masturbating to anything you find online that's even remotely feminine, and wishing you had good looks and social skills. You continue to live with your mother until she dies of a combination of lung cancer and liver failure brought on by the chain-smoking and heavy drinking she used to cope with what a failure you are. Your mother mercifully dead and free of the living embodiment of failure she regretfully thrust from her loins, the bills start to pile up and you, unemployed and unable to pay these bills (of course), lose the house and everything in it. Somehow even more of a failure than you already were, you wander from place to place eating out of dumpsters and sleeping in your own filth until you finally die of AIDS, which you contracted from a diseased whore you scrounged up enough money to pay for, so you could finally lose your virginity while at the same time pretending that your mother was back in your life.

Or:

You are the type who was an athlete in high school, who was genetically doomed to be an idiot but managed to finish school and even get a college scholarship because you were so good at a worthless children's game. You went off to college with a suitcase full of polo shirts and condoms, the polo shirts, because you're a douche, and the condoms to prevent you from impregnating the dim-witted young college girls whom you could never touch without the aid of Rohypnol, a drug you refer to as "roofies" because you can neither spell or pronounce Rohypnol. You scrape by with borderline D's for the next four years, and leave the campus to go out into the real world where your realize you're not intelligent or talented enough to do anything of value with your life. Misery and minimum wage ensues for thirty years, then you blow your brains out, and your corpse, alone and forgotten, is not discovered until the smell of rotting flesh seeps under your door and your bodily fluids finally soak through the floor of your studio apartment and into the room below you. Your body is cremated, the ashes scraped into a garbage bin because there was no one in your life who valued you enough to pay for a casket, funeral, or burial plot.

You're undoubtedly one of the two, otherwise you would have better things to do than complain about the theme of a forum that doesn't care about anything you have to say.
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AH yes, I read that awhile back. Seems like more of an eager fan than anything of value. I suppose if you have an internet site and a good ability to write, you can make people believe anything.

I can wait for CONCRETE details from the developer. Everything else is Fancy Lad Snack Cakes to me.
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post Feb 6 2010, 02:23 AM
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QUOTE (Stoic Person Eater @ Feb 5 2010, 11:43 AM) *
I can wait for CONCRETE details from the developer. Everything else is Fancy Lad Snack Cakes to me.

Next month's OXM.


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Massacre, you make me look like a rational, moral, kind person.
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Massacre - What you've just posted is sick and disturbing...
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as well as PSM... both come out this month actually...


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QUOTE (Massacre @ Mar 15 2011, 01:24 AM) *
Oh, good one. The "you're on the internet so you must have no life" insult isn't moronic or unoriginal at all. You must, without a doubt, be a very important member of society, not at all a waste of the already barely valuable gift of life.

As is the case for everyone who takes issue with people who make them sad on the internet, you are one of two kinds of people:

You are exactly what you claim I am, and that is a lonely, pathetic basement dweller. You life is spent eating eight pounds of junk food per day, masturbating to anything you find online that's even remotely feminine, and wishing you had good looks and social skills. You continue to live with your mother until she dies of a combination of lung cancer and liver failure brought on by the chain-smoking and heavy drinking she used to cope with what a failure you are. Your mother mercifully dead and free of the living embodiment of failure she regretfully thrust from her loins, the bills start to pile up and you, unemployed and unable to pay these bills (of course), lose the house and everything in it. Somehow even more of a failure than you already were, you wander from place to place eating out of dumpsters and sleeping in your own filth until you finally die of AIDS, which you contracted from a diseased whore you scrounged up enough money to pay for, so you could finally lose your virginity while at the same time pretending that your mother was back in your life.

Or:

You are the type who was an athlete in high school, who was genetically doomed to be an idiot but managed to finish school and even get a college scholarship because you were so good at a worthless children's game. You went off to college with a suitcase full of polo shirts and condoms, the polo shirts, because you're a douche, and the condoms to prevent you from impregnating the dim-witted young college girls whom you could never touch without the aid of Rohypnol, a drug you refer to as "roofies" because you can neither spell or pronounce Rohypnol. You scrape by with borderline D's for the next four years, and leave the campus to go out into the real world where your realize you're not intelligent or talented enough to do anything of value with your life. Misery and minimum wage ensues for thirty years, then you blow your brains out, and your corpse, alone and forgotten, is not discovered until the smell of rotting flesh seeps under your door and your bodily fluids finally soak through the floor of your studio apartment and into the room below you. Your body is cremated, the ashes scraped into a garbage bin because there was no one in your life who valued you enough to pay for a casket, funeral, or burial plot.

You're undoubtedly one of the two, otherwise you would have better things to do than complain about the theme of a forum that doesn't care about anything you have to say.
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^ While I've never heard of the source CVG got their info from, the lack of specific details about the game makes it just barely believable. I'll roll with it until I have reason not to...


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Massacre, you make me look like a rational, moral, kind person.
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Massacre - What you've just posted is sick and disturbing...
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When Massacre is around, everything is violated... Whether it likes it or not.
QUOTE (ViceMan @ Mar 6 2011, 09:40 AM) *
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QUOTE (t1nyt3rr4h @ Feb 6 2010, 06:47 PM) *


All of it sounds fine and dandy save this:

You don't play a Vault Dweller (or descendant of one) but a courier, left for dead and saved by a friendly robot.

Being a Vault Dweller is possibly the only thing that made the games standout among the RPG-FPS market. Even if you don't agree with that statement, it's still a hallmark of the game and should be retained. I like the Vault concept because my brain more readily immerses itself in the story. As opposed to games like GTA where I have to wade into the feeling of being a cold blooded monster. Well, maybe not GTA, but you should follow well enough.


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The reason is that when heartless says something stupid, he really means it and believes it.

“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

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Personally, given the Fallout world's obsession with robots doing menial tasks, I think the robot is a dealer from one of the pre-war casinos and the cowboy was the logo for the casino.

Mostly because it looked, to me at least, like the robot was moving those rocks around like they were chips at a table, and the fact that the smiling version of the cowboy's face looked a lot like the neon cowboy (Vegas Vic) from the old 1940's Pioneer Club casino on Fremont Street. smile.gif



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Look at this 1948 postcard with a drawing of Vegas Vic, looks almost identical. They copied it! Those copiers! mad.gif .....smile.gif


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I am of course looking forward to this game, but I sincerely hope Obsidian don't do to it what they did to KoToR II.


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QUOTE (t1nyt3rr4h @ Feb 6 2010, 06:47 PM) *


All of it sounds fine and dandy save this:

You don't play a Vault Dweller (or descendant of one) but a courier, left for dead and saved by a friendly robot.

Being a Vault Dweller is possibly the only thing that made the games standout among the RPG-FPS market. Even if you don't agree with that statement, it's still a hallmark of the game and should be retained. I like the Vault concept because my brain more readily immerses itself in the story. As opposed to games like GTA where I have to wade into the feeling of being a cold blooded monster. Well, maybe not GTA, but you should follow well enough.

Don't know if I believe any of those details anyway, but if Vegas is supposed to be largely intact, it kind of makes sense that you don't start off in a vault this time around.


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