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post Feb 2 2010, 04:31 AM
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If you know who Geert Wilders is, what do you think of him?


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post Feb 2 2010, 04:40 AM
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I'm assuming it's this guy? http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/douglasm...ling-the-truth/


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post Feb 2 2010, 05:10 AM
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QUOTE (TreeFitty @ Feb 2 2010, 03:40 PM) *


Yeah.

He's awesome.
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post Feb 2 2010, 06:08 AM
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I can't say I'm a fan, but he certainly shouldn't be on trial.


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post Feb 2 2010, 07:06 AM
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QUOTE (0bs3n3 @ Feb 2 2010, 12:10 AM) *
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Yeah.

He's awesome.


From what the article says he seems to be in one hell of a situation. I'm interested to see his movie when I get a chance.


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post Feb 2 2010, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE (TreeFitty @ Feb 2 2010, 06:06 PM) *
QUOTE (0bs3n3 @ Feb 2 2010, 12:10 AM) *
QUOTE (TreeFitty @ Feb 2 2010, 03:40 PM) *


Yeah.

He's awesome.


From what the article says he seems to be in one hell of a situation. I'm interested to see his movie when I get a chance.


It's shit (the trial, not the movie). I don't suppose they'd ever stop to think those stupid posters Muslims hold up might offend the native population of Holland? Of course referring "God bless Hitler" "Europe you will pay" etc.

Liberal white guilt complex, please fuck off.

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post Feb 2 2010, 09:30 AM
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Watched his film. I can see why some people might be upset (namely muslims) but he definitely does not deserve to be in jail over it. I almost want to see a longer film.

For anyone who hasn't seen it (need to log in to view it): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kcev1K-NOc It's 16 minutes long.


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post Feb 2 2010, 02:16 PM
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i forgot my youtube acc password. from the article, this guy knows what the Dutches want. And the trail's ridiculous since if i remember correctly Holland newspaper printed the Mohmmad cartoons first.
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post Feb 3 2010, 01:17 AM
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From Wikipedia:

(His political views)

Considerable reduction of taxes and state regulations.
The present Article 1 of the Dutch constitution, guaranteeing equality under the law, will be replaced by a clause stating the cultural dominance of the Christian, Jewish and humanist traditions.
Reduction of the influence of the European Union, which may no longer be expanded with new member states, especially Turkey; the European Parliament will be abolished. Dutch financial contributions to the European Union should be reduced by billions of euros.
An immigration ban of five years for immigrants from non-western countries. Foreign residents will no longer have the right to vote in municipal elections.
A ban of five years on the founding of mosques and Islamic schools; a permanent ban on preaching in any language other than Dutch. Foreign imams will not be allowed to preach. Radical mosques will be closed and radical Muslims will be expelled.
Educational standards will be restored, with an emphasis on the educational value of the family.
Introduction of binding referenda and elected mayors, chiefs of police and prime ministers.
Introduction of minimum penalties, and higher maximum penalties; introduction of administrative detention for terrorist suspects. Street terrorism will be punished by boot camps and denaturalisation deportation of immigrant offenders.
Teachers, policemen, health care workers and military personnel will regain a position of respect and be better rewarded.
The health care system should not be complicated by reorganisations but be more accessible and humane, especially for elderly citizens.


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QUOTE (Qdeathstar @ Mar 13 2009, 01:45 AM) *
The reason is that when heartless says something stupid, he really means it and believes it.

“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

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post Feb 3 2010, 07:36 AM
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I don't agree with all of his policies, but the fact that he is on trial is fucking ridiculous. Watch as freedom slowly dies.


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post Feb 3 2010, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (Darth Sexy @ Feb 3 2010, 02:36 AM) *
I don't agree with all of his policies, but the fact that he is on trial is fucking ridiculous. Watch as freedom slowly dies.


Well Aussie, you can watch as our freedoms die, but yours are long in the grave.


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post Feb 3 2010, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (Geert Wilders @ Feb 4 2010, 05:16 AM) *
QUOTE (Darth Sexy @ Feb 3 2010, 02:36 AM) *
I don't agree with all of his policies, but the fact that he is on trial is fucking ridiculous. Watch as freedom slowly dies.


Well Aussie, you can watch as our freedoms die, but yours are long in the grave.

We're not that bad, lol.


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post Feb 4 2010, 04:00 AM
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That bad he says! HAHAHA, comedic genius.


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The reason is that when heartless says something stupid, he really means it and believes it.

“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

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post Feb 4 2010, 04:08 AM
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It's pretty shit (I intend to leave), but it's not so bad that it sticks out as a fascist regime.


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post Feb 4 2010, 04:22 AM
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QUOTE (Lelouch vi Britannia @ Feb 3 2010, 11:08 PM) *
It's pretty shit (I intend to leave), but it's not so bad that it sticks out as a fascist regime.


Only because you're still capitalist. Imagine if you had some whacky government like socialism or communism, then the world would view you as some sort of assbackwards shithole. What happened when England showed any sign of Socialism, hmmm? A half starved raghead went and tossed their entire empire out the fucking window! America was riding high on the fumes of WW2 and then we bottomed out when? When we took on a socialist program! And now that we have a muslim in office, the entire bleeding world talks about how millions of Americans are starving and need free laptops!


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The reason is that when heartless says something stupid, he really means it and believes it.

“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

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post Feb 11 2010, 05:36 PM
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I don't know what's funnier, Heartless, or the addition of "free laptops" at the end of that sentence.


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post Feb 12 2010, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE (Geert Wilders @ Feb 3 2010, 06:16 PM) *
QUOTE (Darth Sexy @ Feb 3 2010, 02:36 AM) *
I don't agree with all of his policies, but the fact that he is on trial is fucking ridiculous. Watch as freedom slowly dies.


Well Aussie, you can watch as our freedoms die, but yours are long in the grave.
QUOTE (Geert Wilders @ Feb 4 2010, 04:22 AM) *
QUOTE (Lelouch vi Britannia @ Feb 3 2010, 11:08 PM) *
It's pretty shit (I intend to leave), but it's not so bad that it sticks out as a fascist regime.


Only because you're still capitalist. Imagine if you had some whacky government like socialism or communism, then the world would view you as some sort of assbackwards shithole. What happened when England showed any sign of Socialism, hmmm? A half starved raghead went and tossed their entire empire out the fucking window! America was riding high on the fumes of WW2 and then we bottomed out when? When we took on a socialist program! And now that we have a muslim in office, the entire bleeding world talks about how millions of Americans are starving and need free laptops!
You're losing your touch; since when were you Dutch?


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post Feb 12 2010, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE (Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester @ Feb 12 2010, 02:13 PM) *
QUOTE (Geert Wilders @ Feb 3 2010, 06:16 PM) *
QUOTE (Darth Sexy @ Feb 3 2010, 02:36 AM) *
I don't agree with all of his policies, but the fact that he is on trial is fucking ridiculous. Watch as freedom slowly dies.


Well Aussie, you can watch as our freedoms die, but yours are long in the grave.
QUOTE (Geert Wilders @ Feb 4 2010, 04:22 AM) *
QUOTE (Lelouch vi Britannia @ Feb 3 2010, 11:08 PM) *
It's pretty shit (I intend to leave), but it's not so bad that it sticks out as a fascist regime.


Only because you're still capitalist. Imagine if you had some whacky government like socialism or communism, then the world would view you as some sort of assbackwards shithole. What happened when England showed any sign of Socialism, hmmm? A half starved raghead went and tossed their entire empire out the fucking window! America was riding high on the fumes of WW2 and then we bottomed out when? When we took on a socialist program! And now that we have a muslim in office, the entire bleeding world talks about how millions of Americans are starving and need free laptops!
You're losing your touch; since when were you Dutch?


Well, to recap: (not that it's any business of yours) My fathers side of the family is descended from, a long while back, a Gothic tribe in the north of Germany, or rather, present day Holland. During the Hundred Years war they were an incredibly prosperous Bavarian family, but after the war, were broke and went back north and then into Holland. They spent this time mostly as vagrants, and later began to migrate over to America. My Grandfather was one of those people, and as an interesting point, joined the US Navy in WW2 for citizenship. (Imagine sinking your buddies, huh?) He had a son here, who would have a daughter in Germany later, two more girls and then me.

My Moms side is pretty boring. They are just some English/Irish/German/whatever who came over when New York became a British colony and became farmers.


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The reason is that when heartless says something stupid, he really means it and believes it.

“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

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post Feb 12 2010, 09:11 PM
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If your grandad was Dutch, then he wasn't sinking his buddies. Rather he was reclaiming his bicycle.


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post Feb 12 2010, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (Passionate Homo Sapiens Ingester @ Feb 12 2010, 04:11 PM) *
If your grandad was Dutch, then he wasn't sinking his buddies. Rather he was reclaiming his bicycle.


And there is the heart of the argument. Wilders is attempting to reclaim his bicycle.


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The reason is that when heartless says something stupid, he really means it and believes it.

“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

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